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Matrix Homeserver Sliding Sync

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  • girishG girish

    Interesting, wasn't aware. I guess we can package this as part of the app itself.

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    @girish any plans when this will happen?

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      @lukas There is no ETA . AFAIK, the whole thing is still unstable. Even the routes are called unstable - https://github.com/matrix-org/sliding-sync/tree/main#same-hostname . If you just want to play with the idea, it looks like this can be launched in a separate VM or equivalent, not sure. I have to say there is not a whole lot of information other than that github page.

      I also don't quite understand why it is totally separate from synapse. Should this not be just a part of synapse? Sync is like so basic... why would it be running in a separate domain, somewhere else. I think it will help us make some design decisions (for packaging) based on what the answers to these questions are.

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        I also checked the Android Client "Element X". It has 1k+ downloads. I don't think this is meant for general use yet. For reference, the Element client has more than a million.

        Happy to be corrected.

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          Matrix just announced Matrix 2.0 with sliding sync:

          https://matrix.org/blog/2023/09/matrix-2-0/

          Commentary including the Matrix project lead, Arathorn: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37599510

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            I think it's clear that in the future the Sync won't be a proxy on another domain but rather integrated ?

            BenB

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            • benborgesB benborges

              I think it's clear that in the future the Sync won't be a proxy on another domain but rather integrated ?

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              Yes I believe that's the long term plan, but it will take a while to get there.

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                Yes, any update about sliding sync? Is must be implemented and it was ages since it was out @girish

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                • R r369

                  Yes, any update about sliding sync? Is must be implemented and it was ages since it was out @girish

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                  @r369 said in Matrix Homeserver Sliding Sync:

                  it was ages since it was out

                  Not really. It's hasn't hit 1.0 yet and is still considered unstable afaict. It's not yet a standard part of Matrix.

                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                    Still not v1 😑
                    However I stumbled across these instructions for self-hosting in case anyone is interested.

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                      This is now production ready, see https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/12515/element-x-call-and-server-suite-are-production-ready

                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                        This is now production ready, see https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/12515/element-x-call-and-server-suite-are-production-ready

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                        @jdaviescoates not yet features complete and still with many bugs and issues thought 🙂

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                          Per https://matrix.org/blog/2024/10/29/matrix-2.0-is-here/ this is integrated now

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                          • girishG girish

                            Per https://matrix.org/blog/2024/10/29/matrix-2.0-is-here/ this is integrated now

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                            @girish all sounds very promising indeed.

                            I just went to see if I can now connect to my Cloudron Matrix using Element X... the QR Code login thing at least doesn't seem to have been implemented on Cloudron yet:

                            b6462474-d41a-457f-97d6-545ddad657f8-image.png

                            And trying to login in manually doesn't seem to work yet either:

                            Screenshot_20241104-132148_Element X.png

                            Hopefully in the coming months such things will begin to work? Do we know what we're waiting for? I guess maybe for 2.0 to actually release and packaged? 🙂

                            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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