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@JueBam Generally what you want to do for mounting Hetzner Storage Boxes using SSHFS is to create (on your local machine) a new SSH key pair with no password for use with it, then upload the public key to Hetzner and the private key to Cloudron. I'd guess not yet having worked that out might be your issue (just because that's what I struggled with myself until I worked it out) See this post for more info: https://forum.cloudron.io/post/96271

Thx for the hint. Will see what Hetzner support has to say.

It worked after I have reset my ssh keys and entered a new one during restoring.

It was not fail2ban - it was IPv6 connection which is failing, as IPv6 disabled (to ensure mail works well). Hetzner's supported provided a very quick and efficient verification / troubleshooting step: ssh -vvv -p 23 user@server - hope that will be of use for anyone else in the future.

We were able to resolve this. The root cause was the missing unbound-anchor ubuntu package. After intstalling this it worked. More info on that issue is at https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/12496/unbound-anchor-not-found-in-ubuntu-24-04?_=1727881329798

FYI the migration to Hetzner Storage Box coming from Contabo Object Storage was worth it and fixed all failures related to backups whether it was in term of stability or duration. I didn't encounter issues yet, despite I'm using encrypted backups and i've plenty of apps including Nextcloud but I don't have as much data on it.

@girish Ok, great! Thank you very much for the information. I really appreciate your time. Thanks again!

@avatar1024 said in How to setup Hetzner Storage Box using SSHFS: I've had no more issue restoring using sshfs Good to know, thanks!

So, the mounting is handled by the kernel and Cloudron as such has nothing to do with stability of the mount. Cloudron is really just a user space program. You can find the mount systemd file in one of the mount files in /etc/systemd/system/*.mount . Maybe you can look for hints in dmesg (but often unmount information logs is not there)

nevermind, i found my mistake, i copied my public key in, not the private key -.-

@nebulon Thank you for your response. Yes, it seems the issue is indeed with hardlinks. I have them enabled. I will try to wait for the Cloudron update, or I might consider using Borg for backups to the Storage Box. That should probably resolve the issue. Another option is using rsync with the -H switch, but I haven't tested it yet. Thank you very much for your help.

Yes it´s possible. Watch the video!

@santabroo I did once have all my Calibre Web books stored on a Hetzner Cloud Volume (different from their storage boxes) and have that Mounted as Cloudron Volume. I was rsync-ing my local Calibre Library up to that Hetzner Cloud Volume. I'm not sure if I ever tried upload via the Calibre Web interface too, but if I did I can't remember what happened. I think it very likely would work though if you moved your Calibre Web app Data Directory to a Heztner Cloud Volume but of course this would only be possible if your Cloudron is running on a Hetzner Cloud VPS.

It seems the options --storage-driver=overlay2 makes docker unable to start when the data-root is on a mounted through sftp : adding it through the following error at startup failed to mount overlay: invalid argument storage-driver=overlay2 if I use it with a regular data-root, no errors show up. I guess we should conclude that this makes cloudron not compatible with sftp drive for storing docker images.

Please follow the thread at https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/9333/hetzner-storage-box-cifs . Just trying to keep all this CIFS related stuff in one place.

@murgero thank you!

@Stardenver said in Storage Box vs HDD for volumes: Scares me a bit now. Yeah, I'm generally a bit scared of encryption unless it's all automated by some app like Signal or whatever. I'm always worried something will go wrong or I'll forget/ loose my pw and loose access to my own files. I tend to feel that in my own personal circumstances that is a greater risk than someone nefarious managing to access my unencrypted files, so I mostly just don't encrypt stuff. But this sounds like a pretty good method of getting Ubuntu's full disk encryption set-up with Cloudron (so long as you store you passwords safely, like in a password manager and printed out on paper, and maybe somewhere else too for good measure): https://forum.cloudron.io/post/59269 For now though, I reckon my files are safe enough behind insanely long passwords plus 2FA

@MooCloud_Matt Thank you for the replies, it's settled then. Will be better with S3 as primary storage. Thank you.

@marcusquinn You can offer that pricing anyway if you go for a 3+ server install with TrueNas Scale or any other OS + SoftwareDefineStorage solution.