Plex Media Server
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Plex is a client-server media player system and software suite comprising two main components.
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The Plex Media Server either running on Windows, macOS, Linux, FreeBSD or a NAS which organizes audio (music) and visual (photos and videos) content from personal media libraries and streams it to their player counterparts.
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The players can either be the Plex Apps available for mobile devices, smart TVs, and streaming boxes, or the web UI of the Plex Media Server called Plex Web App, or the old Plex player called Plex Home Theater.
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I think something similar would be great but Plex itself is not free software.
Ampache and airsonic seems a better option...but yes limited to music.
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Hi, is there currently any way to run a Plex server alongside or in Cloudron, where the server is only available in the local network (it does not have to be reachable over the net...)
If I manually install Plex server, I can't reach the web-ui on port 32400.
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@avatar1024 Libresonic then? I believe that supports video and audio streaming?
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@necrevistonnezr said in Plex Media Server:
Hi, is there currently any way to run a Plex server alongside or in Cloudron, where the server is only available in the local network (it does not have to be reachable over the net...)
If I manually install Plex server, I can't reach the web-ui on port 32400.
That would be because cloudron manages the system firewall. Does it have to be plex? I was thinking of working on getting Ampache or Libresonic working as a cloudron app specifically to address this.
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@murgero Unfortunately yes, because my TV OS (like many others, I think) only supports a Plex server (otherwise Kodi with a simple directory would be just fine)
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Is it Plex only or DLNA? What TV do you mind me asking? there might be a documented work around for different software?
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@murgero said in Plex Media Server:
Is it Plex only or DLNA? What TV do you mind me asking? there might be a documented work around for different software?
I think Plex only (?). The TV is Samsung LS03 "The Frame" (UE49LS03NAUXZG) with Tizen OS.
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@necrevistonnezr said in Plex Media Server:
UE49LS03NAUXZG
This model supports DLNA. I am building a cloudron plex app now, but in the meantime, try a DLNA server.
Example: https://www.howtogeek.com/215400/how-to-turn-your-computer-into-a-dlna-media-server/
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@murgero said in Plex Media Server:
This model supports DLNA. I am building a cloudron plex app now, but in the meantime, try a DLNA server.
Example: https://www.howtogeek.com/215400/how-to-turn-your-computer-into-a-dlna-media-server/
Great news about the Plex app!!
Thanks for the tip - but using DLNA means that my media is not "managed", right? No fanart, no "watched" / "unwatched" lists, etc. And another thing: My media is on the same server as cloudron - when installing a DLNA server on Ubuntu, I guess I'll run into the same problems as with the Plex server. -
@necrevistonnezr Give me a little bit - I am working on getting plex as a cloudron app as we speak.
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@murgero Great!!
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@necrevistonnezr Not sure if possible right now with cloudron to mount a volume in docker to an external folder via user config, but you might need to copy data to a folder inside the container.
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So I got it to run, however it seems that there are issues running plex behind a reverse proxy. I attempted to setup without that however it still breaks during the setup via the web browser. It might not be possible or my knowledge is too limited to get it to work. (I don't use plex, I prefer Subsonic or Emby.)
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Can it run in the local network only without exposing it to the internet?
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The reverse proxy is something that Cloudron automatically sets up and I am not 100% sure on how to prevent it.
HOWEVER - IF and only IF you need it on local only, then just install the package on the server. Take backups and all that before hand. No need to use docker or Cloudron:
https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-install-plex-media-server-on-ubuntu-18-04/
Just keep in mind that this would be considered an unsupported modification. (I'll help where I can though
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@murgero said in Plex Media Server:
This model supports DLNA. I am building a cloudron plex app now, but in the meantime, try a DLNA server.
Example: https://www.howtogeek.com/215400/how-to-turn-your-computer-into-a-dlna-media-server/
I tried Minidlna (now ReadyMedia) but I guess it's the same issue with ports. I changed the Minidlna TCP port to 4390 (which is open in Cloudron for mail sieve which I don't use) but it cannot be seen by the TV - I guess minidlna also needs UDP 1900...
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@necrevistonnezr I just remember cloudron uses iptables to manage it's firewall and will only allow certain ports it is aware to be open.
See your PM for details.
Essentially we need to allow the plex port:
iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 32400 -j ACCEPT<- Plex Web UI
iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 32469 -j ACCEPT<- Plex DLNA for other devices.--
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I just played a little with installing Plex. I see it like to create some media directories in /opt/something and copy all the mediafiles there.
I want my media to stay where it is, and not be copied or moved anywhere else. If copied it will double my 600GB media to a total of 1200GB.
Maybe Plex is not for me. Or is there some other way to have Plex serve media from their current location, without copying or moving it?
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EDIT: Sorry! Taking question elsewhere as it was not actually on topic. Sorry again.
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Yes Plex is 100% legit but for CLOUDRON? IDK I believe this is docker based I have not USED Plex in while because most hosting companies frowned on me uploading my DVDs digitally to their storage...
IF CAN BRING PLEX OR IT IS POSSIBLE should stop all dev on everything and work on PLEX server side deployment turn key..
here is good idea if Plex is not do-able
https://github.com/webtorrent/webtorrent- wOnKa
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@willywonka said in Plex Media Server:
Yes Plex is 100% legit but for CLOUDRON? IDK I believe this is docker based I have not USED Plex in while because most hosting companies frowned on me uploading my DVDs digitally to their storage...
There are cloudron users with their own server at home / the office / the hoster.
@willywonka said in Plex Media Server:
IF CAN BRING PLEX OR IT IS POSSIBLE should stop all dev on everything and work on PLEX server side deployment turn key..
here is good idea if Plex is not do-able
https://github.com/webtorrent/webtorrentI honestly don't understand the meaning of this sentence.
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Is Plex still being worked on?
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AFAIK, no. Before we package plex, we have to add some support for hardware transcoding for the media apps. @nebulon is working on this for emby/jellyfin. Once we have support in the package in place, it makes sense to package plex.
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@girish that’s great as Plex has the widest „official“ hardware support... https://support.plex.tv/articles/204080173-which-smart-tv-models-are-supported/
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I would love to see Plex in here. Its got the best of Jellyfin and Emby for me. Shareplay from Jellyfin (new) and properly functioning apps for mobile and smart TVs from Emby. And more! And hardware transcoding is a thing now I believe?
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@murgero sorry I'm getting back this thread after the war. Seems like Airsonic is the most maintain package and Libresonic is mostly depreciated.
More info on here: https://airsonic.github.io/
But it seems like it's really more music orientated whereas Plex/Emby/Jellyfin are more for videos.
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@avatar1024 It's waiting for the volume support in the next Cloudron release (see Announcements thread about Cloudron 6). With the volume support, you can mount host paths into apps. This is required to bring in "external media" into apps. Currently, you have to copy over all your media into the app container and this will also be part of the backup, not ideal for media apps.
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Plex has a install for linux so I do not know why Cloudron could not do it. Seedboxes do it so it has to be able to be done. I want to one up this request.
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@sh3lsh0ck Plex can definitely can be packaged for Cloudron. Just a matter of time.
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@girish Is it ready now? I can't install Emby/Jellyfin on SamSung TV
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@sonwww We don't have a package for plex yet.
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Any update on this guys? Literally the only app missing from the catalog for me!
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Have you considered using Jellyfin? -
@privsec Plex has by far the biggest hardware support, especially on Smart TVs.
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@privsec jellyfin doesn't come close to the client support that plex has. Its an okay workaround but plex runs laps around jellyfin
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I don’t disagree, and acknowledge Jellyfin has a ways to go.
But in terms of privacy, it’s the cream de la cream of streaming apps.
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@privsec Agreed! Cloudron supports emby too. I wish it supported plex too
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@girish - In all reality, is Plex on the radar still? I have everything in Plex and tried (and hated) Emby and Jellyfish.
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@ajtatum yes, don't see why not. I think one issue when I last checked was tha Plex was not using local login i.e while the plex installation is local, the authentication is via their cloud. I don't know if this is still the case.
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@girish I'm not sure how I know this, but I've heard that with seedboxes when someone sets up a Plex Server you have to go to plex.tv/claim and it gives them a code so that the local Plex Server can be associated with that account without having to login first. I don't know if that helps at all, but like I said... it's just something I've heard.
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@murgero Did you copy the app package to git.cloudron.io so we can review and see if it can be made publishable?
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@marcusquinn Oh gosh no, even if it was - I wouldn't use such old code from 2019. I could probably give it a try again now that I know more about the cloudron api and such?
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@murgero said in Plex Media Server:
@marcusquinn Oh gosh no, even if it was - I wouldn't use such old code from 2019. I could probably give it a try again now that I know more about the cloudron api and such?
Oh, yes, please!!
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iirc, the issue with Plex back then was that there was no local login (or maybe i misunderstood). Is this still the case?
Not that this is a blocker , we have since become quite a bit pragmatic
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@murgero I think it's worth the effort. It seems to be a common search, and I can see the benefits of having it, given the broad awareness of it for smart TV integration. There's also more collaborators here too now, if you get stuck on anything.
