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  • murgeroM murgero

    @necrevistonnezr said in Plex Media Server:

    UE49LS03NAUXZG

    This model supports DLNA. I am building a cloudron plex app now, but in the meantime, try a DLNA server.

    Example: https://www.howtogeek.com/215400/how-to-turn-your-computer-into-a-dlna-media-server/

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    @murgero said in Plex Media Server:

    This model supports DLNA. I am building a cloudron plex app now, but in the meantime, try a DLNA server.

    Example: https://www.howtogeek.com/215400/how-to-turn-your-computer-into-a-dlna-media-server/

    Great news about the Plex app!!
    Thanks for the tip - but using DLNA means that my media is not "managed", right? No fanart, no "watched" / "unwatched" lists, etc. And another thing: My media is on the same server as cloudron - when installing a DLNA server on Ubuntu, I guess I'll run into the same problems as with the Plex server.

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    • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

      @murgero said in Plex Media Server:

      This model supports DLNA. I am building a cloudron plex app now, but in the meantime, try a DLNA server.

      Example: https://www.howtogeek.com/215400/how-to-turn-your-computer-into-a-dlna-media-server/

      Great news about the Plex app!!
      Thanks for the tip - but using DLNA means that my media is not "managed", right? No fanart, no "watched" / "unwatched" lists, etc. And another thing: My media is on the same server as cloudron - when installing a DLNA server on Ubuntu, I guess I'll run into the same problems as with the Plex server.

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      murgero
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      @necrevistonnezr Give me a little bit - I am working on getting plex as a cloudron app as we speak.

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      • murgeroM murgero

        @necrevistonnezr Give me a little bit - I am working on getting plex as a cloudron app as we speak.

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        @murgero Great!!

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        • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

          @murgero Great!!

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          @necrevistonnezr Not sure if possible right now with cloudron to mount a volume in docker to an external folder via user config, but you might need to copy data to a folder inside the container.

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          • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

            @murgero Great!!

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            @necrevistonnezr

            So I got it to run, however it seems that there are issues running plex behind a reverse proxy. I attempted to setup without that however it still breaks during the setup via the web browser. It might not be possible or my knowledge is too limited to get it to work. (I don't use plex, I prefer Subsonic or Emby.)

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              Can it run in the local network only without exposing it to the internet?

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                The reverse proxy is something that Cloudron automatically sets up and I am not 100% sure on how to prevent it.

                HOWEVER - IF and only IF you need it on local only, then just install the package on the server. Take backups and all that before hand. No need to use docker or Cloudron:

                https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-install-plex-media-server-on-ubuntu-18-04/

                Just keep in mind that this would be considered an unsupported modification. (I'll help where I can though 🙂 )

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                • murgeroM murgero

                  @necrevistonnezr said in Plex Media Server:

                  UE49LS03NAUXZG

                  This model supports DLNA. I am building a cloudron plex app now, but in the meantime, try a DLNA server.

                  Example: https://www.howtogeek.com/215400/how-to-turn-your-computer-into-a-dlna-media-server/

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                  @murgero said in Plex Media Server:

                  This model supports DLNA. I am building a cloudron plex app now, but in the meantime, try a DLNA server.

                  Example: https://www.howtogeek.com/215400/how-to-turn-your-computer-into-a-dlna-media-server/

                  I tried Minidlna (now ReadyMedia) but I guess it's the same issue with ports. I changed the Minidlna TCP port to 4390 (which is open in Cloudron for mail sieve which I don't use) but it cannot be seen by the TV - I guess minidlna also needs UDP 1900...

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                  • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                    @murgero said in Plex Media Server:

                    This model supports DLNA. I am building a cloudron plex app now, but in the meantime, try a DLNA server.

                    Example: https://www.howtogeek.com/215400/how-to-turn-your-computer-into-a-dlna-media-server/

                    I tried Minidlna (now ReadyMedia) but I guess it's the same issue with ports. I changed the Minidlna TCP port to 4390 (which is open in Cloudron for mail sieve which I don't use) but it cannot be seen by the TV - I guess minidlna also needs UDP 1900...

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                    @necrevistonnezr I just remember cloudron uses iptables to manage it's firewall and will only allow certain ports it is aware to be open.

                    See your PM for details.

                    Essentially we need to allow the plex port:

                    iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 32400 -j ACCEPT <- Plex Web UI
                    iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 32469 -j ACCEPT <- Plex DLNA for other devices.

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                      I just played a little with installing Plex. I see it like to create some media directories in /opt/something and copy all the mediafiles there.

                      I want my media to stay where it is, and not be copied or moved anywhere else. If copied it will double my 600GB media to a total of 1200GB.

                      Maybe Plex is not for me. Or is there some other way to have Plex serve media from their current location, without copying or moving it?

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                      • S stoccafisso

                        I just played a little with installing Plex. I see it like to create some media directories in /opt/something and copy all the mediafiles there.

                        I want my media to stay where it is, and not be copied or moved anywhere else. If copied it will double my 600GB media to a total of 1200GB.

                        Maybe Plex is not for me. Or is there some other way to have Plex serve media from their current location, without copying or moving it?

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                        EDIT: Sorry! Taking question elsewhere as it was not actually on topic. Sorry again.

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                          Yes Plex is 100% legit but for CLOUDRON? IDK I believe this is docker based I have not USED Plex in while because most hosting companies frowned on me uploading my DVDs digitally to their storage...

                          IF CAN BRING PLEX OR IT IS POSSIBLE should stop all dev on everything and work on PLEX server side deployment turn key..

                          here is good idea if Plex is not do-able
                          https://github.com/webtorrent/webtorrent

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                            Yes Plex is 100% legit but for CLOUDRON? IDK I believe this is docker based I have not USED Plex in while because most hosting companies frowned on me uploading my DVDs digitally to their storage...

                            IF CAN BRING PLEX OR IT IS POSSIBLE should stop all dev on everything and work on PLEX server side deployment turn key..

                            here is good idea if Plex is not do-able
                            https://github.com/webtorrent/webtorrent

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                            @willywonka said in Plex Media Server:

                            Yes Plex is 100% legit but for CLOUDRON? IDK I believe this is docker based I have not USED Plex in while because most hosting companies frowned on me uploading my DVDs digitally to their storage...

                            There are cloudron users with their own server at home / the office / the hoster.

                            @willywonka said in Plex Media Server:

                            IF CAN BRING PLEX OR IT IS POSSIBLE should stop all dev on everything and work on PLEX server side deployment turn key..
                            here is good idea if Plex is not do-able
                            https://github.com/webtorrent/webtorrent

                            I honestly don't understand the meaning of this sentence.

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                              Is Plex still being worked on?

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                                AFAIK, no. Before we package plex, we have to add some support for hardware transcoding for the media apps. @nebulon is working on this for emby/jellyfin. Once we have support in the package in place, it makes sense to package plex.

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                                • girishG girish

                                  AFAIK, no. Before we package plex, we have to add some support for hardware transcoding for the media apps. @nebulon is working on this for emby/jellyfin. Once we have support in the package in place, it makes sense to package plex.

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                                  @girish that’s great as Plex has the widest „official“ hardware support... https://support.plex.tv/articles/204080173-which-smart-tv-models-are-supported/

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                                    I would love to see Plex in here. Its got the best of Jellyfin and Emby for me. Shareplay from Jellyfin (new) and properly functioning apps for mobile and smart TVs from Emby. And more! And hardware transcoding is a thing now I believe?

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                                    • murgeroM murgero

                                      @avatar1024 Libresonic then? I believe that supports video and audio streaming?

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                                      @murgero sorry I'm getting back this thread after the war. Seems like Airsonic is the most maintain package and Libresonic is mostly depreciated.

                                      More info on here: https://airsonic.github.io/

                                      But it seems like it's really more music orientated whereas Plex/Emby/Jellyfin are more for videos.

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                                        I should tag this topic in my reply as Airsonic got package a while ago? @girish @nebulon has there been any review of it or has it been ditched?

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                                          @avatar1024 It's waiting for the volume support in the next Cloudron release (see Announcements thread about Cloudron 6). With the volume support, you can mount host paths into apps. This is required to bring in "external media" into apps. Currently, you have to copy over all your media into the app container and this will also be part of the backup, not ideal for media apps.

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