loomio - helps groups make better decisions together
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https://github.com/loomio/loomio-deploy
The people behind it:
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HTTPS Enspiral
https://enspiral.com/Loomio - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LoomioOpen Source Self-Hosted Loomio Alternatives
https://alternativeto.net/software/loomio/?license=opensource&platform=self-hosted -
I'd really love Loomio to be included! Might even tip the balance and make me subscribe!
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@jdaviescoates said in loomio - helps groups make better decisions together:
I'd really love Loomio to be included! Might even tip the balance and make me subscribe!
HAPPY2020 and the total awesomeness of the service made me subscribe anyway!
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I contacted Loomio about this and one of their lead developers responded saying:
Hi Josepf,
Cloudron looks like a great system. It should be possible to modify Loomios Dockerfile to support it.
If you know anyone with the inclination I'm happy to support them with that. Otherwise I may get around to it in the next couple of months - I think we could do with a Cloudron host for Loomio stuff.
Kind regards,
RobertI'll point Robert to this thread and hopefully someone will pick it up!
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That would be great, we are happy to help packaging.
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@nebulon I prompted Robert to check out this thread and pointed out Loomio is currently the 5th most wanted app. He said:
Thanks for this Josef, very exciting.
I'm just totally, and completely full and can't see myself doing work on this in the near term. We're going to need to recruit someone else to help to get this done.
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@nebulon said in loomio - helps groups make better decisions together:
The people behind it:
http://enspiral.com/Loomio (the software) is developed and run by Loomio (the coop) as far as I can tell. In-depth interview.
I’m quite interested in getting this software packaged. I could of course use the hosted version but then I can’t automatically bring my userbase with me.
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@yusf said in loomio - helps groups make better decisions together:
Loomio (the software) is developed and run by Loomio (the coop) as far as I can tell.
It is, and Loomio is one of the Enspiral ventures, so everyone is correct
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Bit of the way through packaging, running up against a permission failure with PostgreSQL:
PG::InsufficientPrivilege: ERROR: permission denied to create extension "citext" HINT: Must be superuser to create this extension.Not the first time I've hit a hard stop due to the PG extensions missing - wonder if there's a more systematic way to solve for PG extensions going forward?
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@jimcavoli said in loomio - helps groups make better decisions together:
Bit of the way through packaging,
Great to hear, thanks @jimcavoli !
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@jimcavoli postgresql has this plugin whitelist, so we have to add citext to it. It's easy to do.
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@jimcavoli If you update the
/home/yellowtent/box/src/infra_version.jsto have the latest postgresql container (the hash is in https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/box/-/commit/23c455043033b4c4a5e7739a1748a2a38c6a9457), then citext should be part of it. -
@girish Thanks! trying to figure out where to submit changes for additional extensions - unclear on that from what you've linked, but bumping the infra version got
citextout of the way. This time I got smart and checked the rest of them - I believehstoreis already enabled, andplpgsql, so that just leavespg_stat_statements- which I hadn't brought up previously, but is handy for many reasons, but also required in to get loom up.Full list of extensions used by loomio:
enable_extension "citext" enable_extension "hstore" enable_extension "pg_stat_statements" enable_extension "plpgsql" -
@jimcavoli Thanks, I have added those extensions as well now for the coming release.
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any update on this @jimcavoli ? Thanks!
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Still pending; I missed an extension in the earlier ask, but that's been merged, so hopefully this will release shortly after the next Cloudron patch version. It's at the top of my list, so as soon as I can get it working, I'll update here.
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@jimcavoli That is good news. Ping if you need testing.
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@yusf Will do!
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@yusf said in loomio - helps groups make better decisions together:
@jimcavoli That is good news. Ping if you need testing.
It's GREAT news!
Thanks @jimcavoli!
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I believe this should run on cloudron 6 without issue, but I'm waiting for that update to hit the machine I use to make sure and then we should be able to get this out. The new 2.5 update has some excellent features as well! (which I see no issues with running in this package as soon as it's ready to go)
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Very nice, looks like a better alternative to this that I'm seeing used often for Twitter community groups: https://www.mightynetworks.com/
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This will be useful in at least 2-3 of my many projects.
You can request a specific Cloudron to get the update sooner
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@jimcavoli If you want to move this along further, that postgresql extension is now enabled in 6.0
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@girish Yeah, I've picked it back up and all the basics are looking good. I've got it booting up completely on my dev box. Trying to work out the websockets piece now, which is pretty important. Just banging head against nginx for the most part
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@jimcavoli ask away, nginx is pretty straight fwd.
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Yeah, nginx/websocket requires this magic incantation - http://nginx.org/en/docs/http/websocket.html (if that is what is blocking you)
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I had a breakthrough with the dumb websockets issue. Hooray! This one should be ready shortly. I know it's been highly requested and hotly anticipated (for me as well) so it's my top packaging to finish. At this point, after a few other tweaks, I'm fairly sure I've got this working. I'll do some final testing tonight, but I expect that I should have an initial build together by this weekend.
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It does appear that nearly all features are working in my test build. There is one last challenge remaining here - a potentially notable one. Inbound email for loomio is, in its usual deployment form, handled by a custom sub domain with an MX pointing to a nodejs mailin server to convert messages to webhooks. My plan for the cloudron packaging is to use the
recvmailwith a custom poller process that will grab emails and POST them as required to the app.However, this will require a patch to the underlying software as well. The patch to make loomio use the configured
CLOUDRON_MAIL_TOwhile leveraging the+-delimited subaddresses feature would be similar to https://github.com/loomio/loomio/compare/master...piratas-ar:pipe_to_api but withapp/helpers/email_helper.rbusing the ENV var rather than the hard-coded "loomio" shown in the linked patch. It's a pretty minimal change to get the packaging working so that all the various loomio services operate out of the singular cloudron container, so I'm comfortable pressing ahead with that approach, but if anyone can think of a better solution, please let me know! -
@girish or @nebulon Maybe you can help here? I've got everything in place as far as I can figure for email. Outbound works fine, but I keep getting bounces when attempting to reply. Both
sendmailandrecvmailare enabled for the app (in that order in the manifest), but something doesn't seem to be working nicely on the Cloudron side. I've confirmed that I get a 550 5.1.1User doesn't exist: loomio.app@example.comwhen emailing either the nakedloomio.app@example.comaddress or a subaccount address (ultimately the one I care about for reply-by-email) likeloomio.app+subaccount@example.comAction: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: 127.0.0.1 Diagnostic-Code: smtp;550 5.1.1 <loomio.app@example.com> User doesn't exist: loomio.app@example.comOtherwise, as far as I can tell, I think everything is functioning correctly, but the reply-by-email and custom poller I've written can't be exercised and fully verified until I can sort out this mail delivery issue. Very excited to finally be (nearly) done with this one!
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@jimcavoli Where is the repo for this? I am not finding it in https://git.cloudron.io/jimcavoli
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@girish Thanks for fixing that up - packaging to date is at https://git.cloudron.io/jimcavoli/loomio-app
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@jimcavoli Thanks! Will take a look.
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@girish How's this going?
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Just giving this another little bump
@girish did you ever manage to have a look at @jimcavoli's package?
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@bubonicfred @girish any progress on Loomio? Just trialling it in our organisation and inclusion would make the case for Cloudron stronger for us.
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I've yet another org interested in this.
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Friends made a startup in this decision management field called KIE Labs - https://www.kielabs.com
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@jdaviescoates @girish
Just bumping this again,
possibly willing to help test -
do we do bounties on apps? I'd put one on this
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Off topic:
@sam_uk said in loomio - helps groups make better decisions together:
@atridad he did a great job of packaging Humhub for me.
I'm assuming/ hoping the plan is to get Humhub into the Cloudron App Store too, right?
