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    • jimcavoli
      jimcavoli App Dev last edited by

      @girish or @nebulon Maybe you can help here? I've got everything in place as far as I can figure for email. Outbound works fine, but I keep getting bounces when attempting to reply. Both sendmail and recvmail are enabled for the app (in that order in the manifest), but something doesn't seem to be working nicely on the Cloudron side. I've confirmed that I get a 550 5.1.1 User doesn't exist: loomio.app@example.com when emailing either the naked loomio.app@example.com address or a subaccount address (ultimately the one I care about for reply-by-email) like loomio.app+subaccount@example.com

      Action: failed
      Status: 5.1.1
      Remote-MTA: 127.0.0.1
      Diagnostic-Code: smtp;550 5.1.1 <loomio.app@example.com> User doesn't exist: loomio.app@example.com
      

      Otherwise, as far as I can tell, I think everything is functioning correctly, but the reply-by-email and custom poller I've written can't be exercised and fully verified until I can sort out this mail delivery issue. Very excited to finally be (nearly) done with this one!

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      • girish
        girish Staff @jimcavoli last edited by

        @jimcavoli Where is the repo for this? I am not finding it in https://git.cloudron.io/jimcavoli

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        • jimcavoli
          jimcavoli App Dev @girish last edited by

          @girish Thanks for fixing that up - packaging to date is at https://git.cloudron.io/jimcavoli/loomio-app

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          • girish
            girish Staff @jimcavoli last edited by

            @jimcavoli Thanks! Will take a look.

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            • bubonicfred
              bubonicfred @girish last edited by

              @girish How's this going?

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              • jdaviescoates
                jdaviescoates @bubonicfred last edited by

                Just giving this another little bump 😛

                @girish did you ever manage to have a look at @jimcavoli's package? 🙂

                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                • Sam_uk
                  Sam_uk @bubonicfred last edited by

                  @bubonicfred @girish any progress on Loomio? Just trialling it in our organisation and inclusion would make the case for Cloudron stronger for us.

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                  • yusf
                    yusf last edited by

                    I've yet another org interested in this.

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                    • robi
                      robi last edited by

                      Friends made a startup in this decision management field called KIE Labs - https://www.kielabs.com

                      Life of Advanced Technology

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                      • bubonicfred
                        bubonicfred @jdaviescoates last edited by

                        @jdaviescoates @girish
                        Just bumping this again,
                        possibly willing to help test

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                        • ianhyzy
                          ianhyzy last edited by

                          do we do bounties on apps? I'd put one on this 🍕

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                          • Sam_uk
                            Sam_uk @ianhyzy last edited by

                            @ianhyzy you could reach out to @atridad he did a great job of packaging Humhub for me.

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                            • jdaviescoates
                              jdaviescoates @Sam_uk last edited by

                              Off topic:

                              @sam_uk said in loomio - helps groups make better decisions together:

                              @atridad he did a great job of packaging Humhub for me.

                              I'm assuming/ hoping the plan is to get Humhub into the Cloudron App Store too, right? 🙂

                              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                              • jimcavoli
                                jimcavoli App Dev last edited by

                                I can take a look at making sure the packaging code is up to date, but it's very much working on a test instance still. Only issue was @girish building / testing - happy to work on that part of it if needed...I could make it a straight-through Dockerfile rather than BuildKit dependent - though it'll take a fairly long time to build that way, maybe that's just what we need to do?

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                                • girish
                                  girish Staff @jimcavoli last edited by

                                  @jimcavoli ah nice, if you can update the base image to 3.0.0, then I can take a look into publishing it. In fact, I am not sure why I didn't look into this further. Would be great to make it a straight through Dockerfile as that's how all the other packages are.

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                                  • jimcavoli
                                    jimcavoli App Dev @girish last edited by

                                    @girish On it; hopefully will have that today

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                                    • jimcavoli
                                      jimcavoli App Dev @girish last edited by

                                      @girish Opened it up and got to updating - was reminded that the issue was the inbound email side of things, not the Dockerfile on this one...it's the OpenSlides packaging stalled on the multistage builds (which needs some more revision and I'll update soon). In any case, I've updated it to use cloudron/base:3.0.0 and Loomio at 2.8.3 (latest) locally and on my test box. The outstanding issue with inbound mail remains, plus a new, if minor, issue with Redis AUTH for the channel server - any chance we'll see Redis updated to 6.x soon?

                                      I can work on alternatives to make the channel server Redis connection happy, but I still need help on the inbound email side of things. Sending seems fine, but replies (the inbound-to-app side) bounce immediately. I've pushed the changes for the newer versions to https://git.cloudron.io/jimcavoli/loomio-app and included the caveat(s) about the broken components in the commit message for now.

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                                      • girish
                                        girish Staff @jimcavoli last edited by

                                        @jimcavoli thanks! We can follow up on the recvmail issue in the other thread. As for redis, is the issue that it cannot work with redis 5 at all? There is a flag in redis addon to disable auth entirely, would that help?

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                                        • girish
                                          girish Staff last edited by

                                          here - https://docs.cloudron.io/packaging/addons/#redis . The noPassword flag in manifest.

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                                          • jimcavoli
                                            jimcavoli App Dev @girish last edited by

                                            @girish Yeah, I tried setting that, but the issue is that one part of the app is sending the two-argument version every time, which 5 and lower just don't know how to handle

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                                            • girish
                                              girish Staff @jimcavoli last edited by

                                              @jimcavoli I see. What's interesting is that https://help.loomio.org/en/dev_manual/setup_dev_environment/ just suggests installing redis via apt but redis 6 is not yet in ubuntu (only via a ppa). Another idea is to maybe use the previous release of loomio and then we can move it once we have redis 6 available. Is that an option?

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                                              • jimcavoli
                                                jimcavoli App Dev @girish last edited by

                                                @girish yeah, I don't see why not. It works in an older version. I may be able to pin back the specific dependency as well (it's the node dependency from https://github.com/loomio/loomio_channel_server that seems to be doing it). I'll play around with it a bit while we work on the recvmail thing in the mean time.

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                                                • girish
                                                  girish Staff @jimcavoli last edited by

                                                  @jimcavoli I have opened https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/box/-/issues/804 to track for next release

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                                                  • jimcavoli
                                                    jimcavoli App Dev last edited by

                                                    Got 7.0.1 loaded up on my testbed machine...going to re-update the packaging as needed and ensure recvmail is integrated properly, then we should be good to go here. Hoping for O(days) on that, may be O(weeks) given schedules the next few weeks.

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                                                    • girish
                                                      girish Staff @jimcavoli last edited by

                                                      @jimcavoli awesome, let me know if recvmail works or not

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                                                      • jdaviescoates
                                                        jdaviescoates last edited by

                                                        @jdaviescoates said in Cobudget - A collaborative funding tool for crowds with purpose.:

                                                        BTW, the backstory to Cobudget is a must read imho

                                                        https://www.managementexchange.com/story/collaborative-funding-dissolve-authority-empower-everyone-and-crowdsource-smarter-transparent

                                                        Same goes for Loomio actually

                                                        https://www.managementexchange.com/story/when-business-met-occupy-innovating-true-collaborative-decision-making-and-true-empowerment

                                                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                                        • bubonicfred
                                                          bubonicfred @girish last edited by

                                                          @jimcavoli @girish Any update on this?

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                                                          • Sam_uk
                                                            Sam_uk @girish last edited by

                                                            @girish Is it possible to test this somehow?

                                                            We're using it in our org and would like to let the team know when we could include it with our Keycloak/Cloudron services.

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                                                            • girish
                                                              girish Staff @Sam_uk last edited by

                                                              @Sam_uk Not sure what the current status of the package is. @jimcavoli do you know?

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                                                              • girish
                                                                girish Staff last edited by

                                                                Initial loomio package is out - https://forum.cloudron.io/category/160/loomio . Please note, still unstable.

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