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MiroTalk Update regularly fails after update

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  • jamesJ james

    Hello @djxx
    This is a common issue and has been reported multiple times.
    Please try to stop the app, wait a minute and then attempt the update process again.
    If this still fails, please stop the app again.
    Then connect with ssh to your server.

    Since your error is the following:

    Docker Error: (HTTP code 500) server error - failed to set up container networking: driver failed programming external connectivity on endpoint a877975d-38be-4088-bc92-e0d7a486a818 (2e5adaa635a95bd65ca0f290712065d444528e3420c49f2f88323b40c62caaa5): failed to bind host port for 0.0.0.0:40014:172.18.16.130:40014/tcp: address already in use
    

    it reveals you have changed the ports to 40000 'ish.
    Could you please confirm what port you have chosen?
    From the ports you have chosen you can run the following command in ssh to see if any other application is already using the the ports:
    If you have chosen 40000 then the Mirotalk app uses 100 ports of so 40000 to 40100.

    lsof -i :40000-40100
    
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    djxx
    wrote on last edited by
    #3

    @james Thanks for the quick reply. I didn't change any ports manually. Could it be that this and another application are conflicting and it's not being detected?

    I'll run this lsof command next time it happens to see if I can identify the culprit.

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      I have had that happened with Mirotalk too,. Sometimes update get stuck. Happens less often these days but still sometimes. I either have to restart the app or remove and reinstall.

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        wrote on last edited by MiroTalk
        #5

        Port allocation behavior

        By default, when SFU_SERVER is set to false, the application uses a range of 100 ports.

        when SFU_SERVER=true it allocate ports starting from 40000 default + CPU core eg if your server has 4CPU so become 40000 - 40003 (only 3 ports needed)

        More about: https://mediasoup.discourse.group/t/mediasoups-webrtcserver-concerning-firewall-settings-and-port-binding/5965/5


        Cloudron integration

        To support this behavior on Cloudron, SFU_SERVER should be exposed as a toggle (switch button) in the MiroTalk SFU app settings (Location).
        When the switch is enabled, the port allocation logic in start.sh can be updated something as follows:

        # Enable / disable SFU server (default: false)
        readonly SFU_SERVER="${SFU_SERVER:-false}"
        
        # Number of CPU cores (used only when SFU is enabled)
        readonly CPU_CORES="$(nproc)"
        
        # Base TCP port (default: 25000)
        readonly SFU_TCP_BASE="${SFU_TCP:-25000}"
        
        if [[ "$SFU_SERVER" == "true" ]]; then
            # SFU enabled:
            # allocate one port per CPU core
            readonly SFU_MAX_PORT=$(( SFU_TCP_BASE + CPU_CORES - 1 ))
        else
            # Default behavior:
            # allocate 100 ports starting from the base port
            readonly SFU_MAX_PORT=$(( SFU_TCP_BASE + 100 ))
        fi
        

        Benefits of this approach

        • ✅ Fewer ports allocated
          Only the ports that are actually needed are opened, especially in SFU mode.

        • ✅ Reduced port conflicts
          Smaller port ranges significantly lower the chance of clashes with other services on the same host.

        • ✅ Better Cloudron compatibility
          Minimal port exposure aligns well with Cloudron’s strict networking and security model.

        • ✅ Scales with hardware
          Port allocation automatically adapts to the number of CPU cores available.

        • ✅ User control
          Exposing SFU_SERVER as a switch allows users to explicitly choose whether to run in SFU mode or keep the default behavior.

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          wrote on last edited by
          #6

          Hello @mirotalk
          Does this have any other effects?

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          • jamesJ james

            Hello @mirotalk
            Does this have any other effects?

            MiroTalkM Away
            MiroTalkM Away
            MiroTalk
            App Maintainer
            wrote on last edited by
            #7

            @james said in MiroTalk Update regularly fails after update:

            Does this have any other effects?

            In theory, it shouldn’t have any other effects, as long as the user can switch between these two modes. I’m not entirely sure why Mediasoup doesn’t use a server SFU by default, but you could ask the Mediasoup support forum for clarification.

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              djxx
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              #8

              Is there any update on this? I can't rely on this app for meeting links because about 75% of the time it's not running properly due to startup failure.

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                wrote last edited by
                #9

                So this always happens when the app gets updated?

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                • nebulonN nebulon

                  So this always happens when the app gets updated?

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                  @nebulon It also happens after system updates or restarts. It seems it's a roll of the dice if the ports aren't already taken. Restarting the app doesn't fix it anymore, so now when it crashes I change the SFU TCP/UDP port range to something else and it works when the app restarts.

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                    #11

                    Sounds like a firewall cleanup issue or maybe something in between

                    Conscious tech

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                      wrote last edited by nebulon
                      #12

                      When this happens, can you check which container is occupying those ports?

                      You can run

                      docker ps --format "table {{.ID}}\t{{.Names}}\t{{.Ports}}" | grep <portnumber>
                      

                      which should reveal the container holding on to it.

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