Nextcloud Hub/18
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Hi!
The upcoming nextcloud release (18) will be an interesting one:
https://nextcloud.com/blog/the-new-standard-in-on-premises-team-collaboration-nextcloud-hub/ONLYOFFICE should be included without installing a docker container.
Has anybody some information about the RAM usage of Nextcloud if ONLYOFFICE is included?
Now:
Nextcloud: 600MB
ONLYOFFICE: 2048MBNew:
Nextcloud: ? -
Note that NC 18 packages "ONLYOFFICE’s community edition" - is that equivalent to cloudron's current app?
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Yes, it is still unclear to us how the version 18 is to be deployed in such a scenario.
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@nebulon either way I still look forward to trying out Nextcloud 18 on Cloudron at some point in the future!
Hopefully some of the major bugs in Mail will have been ironed out...
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The ONLYOFFICE’s community edition lacks of LDAP support so I'm not sure if it integrates that well with cloudron. Collabora works for me and has only a few minor bugs at this point.
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@subven ah yes, LDAP is important, we definitely need to keep that.
Personally I've found Collabora to be too slow and unresponsive to actually work with other people on a document, I guess because all the work is done on the server instead of locally like how Only Office works.
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@jdaviescoates said in Nextcloud Hub/18:
@subven ah yes, LDAP is important, we definitely need to keep that.
Personally I've found Collabora to be too slow and unresponsive to actually work with other people on a document, I guess because all the work is done on the server instead of locally like how Only Office works.
But the OnlyOffice App is only accessible through Nextcloud, so the LDAP function is covered by the Nextcloud I suppose.
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My understanding is that this is not part of Nextcloud main product but part of a separate installation mechanism called Nextcloud Hub. From what I can tell, this won't affect Cloudron installation. We will continue to support the "separated" app installation as we do now.
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What happens if you installed Collabora as Office-Tool?
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I did some initial test with Nextcloud 18 and it is actually mostly the same as before, however what they call "hub" is an umbrella term for a few components together. This can already be done on Cloudron anyways since one can install more components like onlyoffice or Collabora and connect them to Nextcloud.
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As Nextcloud Hub 18 is released, when does the Update come to Cloudron?
Or should I switch in the Nextcloud App from Cloudron update to Auto update? -
It will be available soon. From our experience with last major Nextcloud update, we are on purpose not jumping right in, since last time there were a couple of annoying regressions.
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We have now pushed the update to Nextcloud 18. Please keep in mind that Nextcloud Hub is not a separate app or so, but just a collection of installed Nextcloud addons/apps. On Cloudron one can already install Onlyoffice to work together with Nextcloud.
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Great, thanks!
What happens if you have currently NC 17 and OnlyOffice installed on Cloudron - do we need to reconfigure things? Can we uninstall OnlyOffice?
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Nothing should have changed, the OnlyOffice addon/app in Nextcloud may have to be updated and re-enabled.
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@nebulon said in Nextcloud Hub/18:
Nothing should have changed, the OnlyOffice addon/app in Nextcloud may have to be updated and re-enabled.
But we still need the separate cloudron OnlyOffice app, correct?
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Yes that is correct
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@necrevistonnezr :
No you don't need a ONLYOFFICE installation.
Install the follwing:- https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/documentserver_community - ONLYOFFICE
- https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/onlyoffice - Connector
If you have the ONLYOFFICE connector already installed, delete all data (link to the server). Nextcloud will configure everything (have a look at the GitHub: https://github.com/nextcloud/documentserver_community).
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@gloes Thanks! That worked as described. I can open and edit documents without the extra OnlyOffice installation in Cloudron.
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@gloes nice, thanks for clarifying this!
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Interesting. How does this work? The apache/php app spawns a node process? OnlyOffice source code is now part of the backup? So many questions.
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Can confirm this works. The whole plugin is around
709Mwhich will be part of the backup. It seems that the whole app is basically just frontend js, so we don't need a separate server as such. -
This is very interesting. Is there a difference comparing security/ speed/ future support?
I totally don't mind which one to use.
Thank you for all your work
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I note that on https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/documentserver_community it states:
The community document server is designed to make it easy to get OnlyOffice running in a Nextcloud instance without the need to setup an external document server, the community document server does not support all features of the official OnlyOffice document server and does not provide the same performance and scalability. (bold added)
And I'm guessing that the Cloudron app at https://cloudron.io/store/com.onlyoffice.coudronapp.html installs the full version? Is that right @nebulon @girish ?
So the method described by @gloes (thanks!) works, but perhaps does not have as the same features, performance and scalability?
So the current method of installing both Nextcloud and ONLYOFFICE Cloudron apps may still be best?
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Please update the app to 18.0.1., lots of fixes.
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The update is already rolled out. We just do it slowly for Nextcloud since in the past, Nextcloud updates caused lots of support requests on our side.
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@nebulon said in Nextcloud Hub/18:
The update is already rolled out. We just do it slowly for Nextcloud since in the past, Nextcloud updates caused lots of support requests on our side.
I'd rather hurry, there are security advisories out: https://adv-archiv.dfn-cert.de/adv/2020-0324/
