Outline - a Notion-like open source app

[jdaviescoates]

@ruihildt I emailed them asking if any features aren't included, they replied:

We offer an enterprise edition that has these additional features:

• Audit trail
• SAML login (Okta, OneLogin, etc)
• Support contract

Everything else is included in the OSS edition

[klawitterb]

Latest release includes generic oidc authentication. Hooked it up with keycloak and seems to be running fine.

[timconsidine]

@jdaviescoates useful info
I tried to install Outline on a separate VPS using CapRover
But it failed, maybe because I skipped the gmail and slack env variables, as I don't use those platforms.
So I canned it.
Maybe I will try again.

It certainly looks a useful app and would be nice to have here on Cloudron.

[timconsidine]

@klawitterb is keycloak easy to use ?
haven't tried it out yet

[klawitterb]

@timconsidine Keycloak ist a fully fledged identity provider. So you're presented with millions of config options. Wouldn't call myself an expert in this topic but setting up a new client is quite straight forward if you've used oidc before.

[timconsidine]

@klawitterb thanks
Not used oidc before, so maybe that's where my knowledge gap starts.
Will look into it.
Where do you host keycloak ? You managed to get it as custom package into cloudron or you use it on another VPS ?
If you don't mind me asking.

[scooke]

@timconsidine Yeah, this is one of those impossible to install apps that are super appealing to everyone. I've only ever managed to do it once, there's a write-up somewhere out there, but I've never chatted with anyone else who actually set it up. It seems ppl just got the hosted one. Too bad, really.

[klawitterb]

@timconsidine I've packed it up as a custom cloudron app. Wouldn't call it production ready though. Same for outline itself.
So I've got now 3 apps driving this, outline, keycloak and minio for storage. Not exactly simple.

[timconsidine]

@klawitterb brillliant !
if it gets to production and you don't mind sharing it, let us know.
I'm having a play keycloak on another VPS (I'm always nervous of breaking things on my Cloudron)

[fbartels]

@timconsidine on the topic of oidc. There is a fully featured oidc provider within the Kopano Meet app. For internal use I have even separated the oidc provider into a separate app.

I did write down how to configure external apps on cloudron against it in https://blog.9wd.eu/posts/cloudron-oidc-nextcloud/

[timconsidine]

@fbartels Thank you !

[timconsidine]

@fbartels nice article, thank you

[potemkin_ai]

Would love to see Outline on CloudRon, hope @klawitterb will share the code to be added to the CloudRon

[jdaviescoates]

@klawitterb said in Outline - a Notion-like open source app:

Latest release includes generic oidc authentication. Hooked it up with keycloak and seems to be running fine.

Even though I liked your post, I only just re-spotted that this PR has been merged https://github.com/outline/outline/pull/2388

Looks like most of this other Authentication stuff has been done too:
https://github.com/outline/outline/projects/5

It'd be really fantastic if @klawitterb could collaborate with @staff to get Outline into the Cloudron app store!

[chetbaker]

we are currently using docuwiki, but outline will be :chesskiss:

[klawitterb]

@jdaviescoates Happy to share the code, just fired it up a couple of months ago to see if it would work. So should be regarded as a prototype only.
https://git.apehost.de/cloudron-apps/outline
Keep in mind that it also requires a S3 compatible storage like minio. So full solution would actually require 3 apps to be running.

[infogulch]

@klawitterb Nice thanks for sharing!

it also requires a S3 compatible storage like minio

Maybe this is a good time to bring up the Addon request: blob storage (s3) thread, which proposes a new "s3" addon in the same vein as the database addons that would create and manage s3-compatible buckets for apps automatically upon request in the app definition's manifest.

[nj]

@klawitterb Hi, were you able to make LDAP authentication work? I tried to build and install from the repo you shared but it threw several errors. Could you share a bit more about how you made Outline work with Cloudron user directory?

[klawitterb]

@nj Never made LDAP work. Only oidc with users directly created in keycloak.

[nj]

I have also packaged Outline: https://github.com/njsubedi/cloudron-outline, thanks to the work @klawitterb started. Still no success with passport-ldapauth but since I've also packaged Keycloak, LDAP auth is no longer a blocker for Outline. I also added some more details on the manifest/POSTINSTALL.md file if anyone is interested. It would be awesome if minio was available as an addon.

I recommend someone with more knowledge of passport-ldapauth to try adding support for authenticating cloudron users.