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Outline - a Notion-like open source app

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  • ? A Former User

    I'd personally love to use this so I don't mind taking a crack at it. Can't until after this weekend though so if anyone else wants to go for it... go nuts.

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    jdaviescoates
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    #22

    @atrilahiji the developer said new versions come monthlyish around the 15ish and so a version with the new authentication method likely not available until after the weekend anyway.

    And I'm not actually sure if it's ready for self-hosting yet (it wasn't initially designed for that) but be great for people here with relevant skills to take a look πŸ™‚

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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    • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

      @atrilahiji the developer said new versions come monthlyish around the 15ish and so a version with the new authentication method likely not available until after the weekend anyway.

      And I'm not actually sure if it's ready for self-hosting yet (it wasn't initially designed for that) but be great for people here with relevant skills to take a look πŸ™‚

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      #23

      @jdaviescoates said in Outline - a Notion-like open source app:

      ready for self-hosting yet

      It looks like there are still a few things to be done before the new authentication options are available:

      https://github.com/outline/outline/projects/5

      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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        #24

        @jouel I think searching before posting is a great idea πŸ˜› πŸ˜‰

        There is already an App Wishlist post for Outline here:
        https://forum.cloudron.io/post/8756

        Seems it's not quite ready for self-hosting yet, but it's getting there πŸ™‚

        But yeah I agree it looks great πŸ™‚

        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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          #25

          Well it looks like it's possible to host Outline in docker, there is a docker compose file on github:

          https://github.com/outline/outline/blob/main/docker-compose.yml

          Notably, it uses postgres, redis, and an s3 api.

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          • infogulchI infogulch

            Well it looks like it's possible to host Outline in docker, there is a docker compose file on github:

            https://github.com/outline/outline/blob/main/docker-compose.yml

            Notably, it uses postgres, redis, and an s3 api.

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            jdaviescoates
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            @infogulch yeah, but there is no local authentication yet https://github.com/outline/outline/projects/5

            So at present your can self host but you'd still have to login using Google or Slack

            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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            • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

              @infogulch yeah, but there is no local authentication yet https://github.com/outline/outline/projects/5

              So at present your can self host but you'd still have to login using Google or Slack

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              It seems there's a PR to get it to work with Gitea auth: https://github.com/outline/outline/pull/2134

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              • infogulchI infogulch

                It seems there's a PR to get it to work with Gitea auth: https://github.com/outline/outline/pull/2134

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                ruihildt
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                #28

                Outline model is open core, so don't get your hopes too high to get all functionalities in the Open Source version.

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                • ruihildtR ruihildt

                  Outline model is open core, so don't get your hopes too high to get all functionalities in the Open Source version.

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                  jdaviescoates
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                  #29

                  @ruihildt is it? I don't see any paid for add-ons on their website...

                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                    @ruihildt I emailed them asking if any features aren't included, they replied:

                    We offer an enterprise edition that has these additional features:

                    • Audit trail
                    • SAML login (Okta, OneLogin, etc)
                    • Support contract

                    Everything else is included in the OSS edition

                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                      #31

                      Latest release includes generic oidc authentication. Hooked it up with keycloak and seems to be running fine.

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                      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                        @infogulch yeah, but there is no local authentication yet https://github.com/outline/outline/projects/5

                        So at present your can self host but you'd still have to login using Google or Slack

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                        #32

                        @jdaviescoates useful info
                        I tried to install Outline on a separate VPS using CapRover
                        But it failed, maybe because I skipped the gmail and slack env variables, as I don't use those platforms.
                        So I canned it.
                        Maybe I will try again.

                        It certainly looks a useful app and would be nice to have here on Cloudron.

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                        • klawitterbK klawitterb

                          Latest release includes generic oidc authentication. Hooked it up with keycloak and seems to be running fine.

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                          @klawitterb is keycloak easy to use ?
                          haven't tried it out yet

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                            @klawitterb is keycloak easy to use ?
                            haven't tried it out yet

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                            @timconsidine Keycloak ist a fully fledged identity provider. So you're presented with millions of config options. Wouldn't call myself an expert in this topic but setting up a new client is quite straight forward if you've used oidc before.

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                              @timconsidine Keycloak ist a fully fledged identity provider. So you're presented with millions of config options. Wouldn't call myself an expert in this topic but setting up a new client is quite straight forward if you've used oidc before.

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                              @klawitterb thanks
                              Not used oidc before, so maybe that's where my knowledge gap starts.
                              Will look into it.
                              Where do you host keycloak ? You managed to get it as custom package into cloudron or you use it on another VPS ?
                              If you don't mind me asking.

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                              • timconsidineT timconsidine

                                @jdaviescoates useful info
                                I tried to install Outline on a separate VPS using CapRover
                                But it failed, maybe because I skipped the gmail and slack env variables, as I don't use those platforms.
                                So I canned it.
                                Maybe I will try again.

                                It certainly looks a useful app and would be nice to have here on Cloudron.

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                                scooke
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                                @timconsidine Yeah, this is one of those impossible to install apps that are super appealing to everyone. I've only ever managed to do it once, there's a write-up somewhere out there, but I've never chatted with anyone else who actually set it up. It seems ppl just got the hosted one. Too bad, really.

                                A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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                                • timconsidineT timconsidine

                                  @klawitterb thanks
                                  Not used oidc before, so maybe that's where my knowledge gap starts.
                                  Will look into it.
                                  Where do you host keycloak ? You managed to get it as custom package into cloudron or you use it on another VPS ?
                                  If you don't mind me asking.

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                                  @timconsidine I've packed it up as a custom cloudron app. Wouldn't call it production ready though. Same for outline itself.
                                  So I've got now 3 apps driving this, outline, keycloak and minio for storage. Not exactly simple. 😬

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                                  • klawitterbK klawitterb

                                    @timconsidine I've packed it up as a custom cloudron app. Wouldn't call it production ready though. Same for outline itself.
                                    So I've got now 3 apps driving this, outline, keycloak and minio for storage. Not exactly simple. 😬

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                                    @klawitterb brillliant !
                                    if it gets to production and you don't mind sharing it, let us know.
                                    I'm having a play keycloak on another VPS (I'm always nervous of breaking things on my Cloudron)

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                                    • timconsidineT timconsidine

                                      @klawitterb brillliant !
                                      if it gets to production and you don't mind sharing it, let us know.
                                      I'm having a play keycloak on another VPS (I'm always nervous of breaking things on my Cloudron)

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                                      #39

                                      @timconsidine on the topic of oidc. There is a fully featured oidc provider within the Kopano Meet app. For internal use I have even separated the oidc provider into a separate app.

                                      I did write down how to configure external apps on cloudron against it in https://blog.9wd.eu/posts/cloudron-oidc-nextcloud/

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                                      • fbartelsF fbartels

                                        @timconsidine on the topic of oidc. There is a fully featured oidc provider within the Kopano Meet app. For internal use I have even separated the oidc provider into a separate app.

                                        I did write down how to configure external apps on cloudron against it in https://blog.9wd.eu/posts/cloudron-oidc-nextcloud/

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                                        @fbartels Thank you !

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                                        • fbartelsF fbartels

                                          @timconsidine on the topic of oidc. There is a fully featured oidc provider within the Kopano Meet app. For internal use I have even separated the oidc provider into a separate app.

                                          I did write down how to configure external apps on cloudron against it in https://blog.9wd.eu/posts/cloudron-oidc-nextcloud/

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                                          @fbartels nice article, thank you

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