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    • jdaviescoates
      jdaviescoates last edited by

      Mornin is an instant audio conferencing service

      Talk with your friends, no need to install an app or register!

      https://mornin.fm/
      https://github.com/fox-one/mornin.fm

      h/t @oj who mentioned it over in the Peer Calls thread.

      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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      • ?
        A Former User last edited by

        I was trying to see if I could package it up, but it doesn't look like it builds or runs the dev server without error. Time to debug 👀

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          A Former User last edited by

          I got it working using the LAMP stack by just using the NUXT static generator. Might be a good solution? I could try packaging it properly if theres interest.

          My test site: https://morin.lahijiapps.dev/

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          • jdaviescoates
            jdaviescoates @Guest last edited by

            @atrilahiji said in Mornin.fm - instant audio conferencing service:

            I could try packaging it properly if theres interest.

            Yes please! 🙂

            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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              A Former User @jdaviescoates last edited by

              @jdaviescoates I spoke too soon... not sure why I expected it to work well as a static site. It doesn't. Packaging it up 🙂

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              • marcusquinn
                marcusquinn last edited by

                Very cool 👍

                We're not here for a long time - but we are here for a good time :)
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                  A Former User last edited by

                  Well i'm part of the way there:

                  Challenges:

                  1. Its using Node 10 and refuses to build using Node 12, which the base image uses.
                  2. Porting to node 12 requires so much fuckery because of how they decided to use vue.
                  3. Base image 1.0 uses node 8... I was hoping it would be my saviour
                  4. I cant make a repo on the cloudron git so I have it here: https://git.lahijiapps.dev/atrilahiji/morninfm-cloudron
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                  • mehdi
                    mehdi App Dev @Guest last edited by

                    @atrilahiji I have given it a try too, and I must admit it is indeed quite confusing... I have never seen something break in this way with a new node version.

                    However, you can quite easily install another node version in the app container, take a look at https://git.cloudron.io/mehdi/river/-/blob/master/Dockerfile#L22

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                    • mehdi
                      mehdi App Dev @Guest last edited by

                      @atrilahiji I have a Dockerfile with a working build 🙂

                      FROM cloudron/base:2.0.0
                      
                      ARG MORNIN_FM_VERSION="master"
                      ARG NODE_VERSION="10.22.1"
                      
                      RUN mkdir -p /usr/local/node-${NODE_VERSION}
                      RUN curl -L "https://nodejs.org/download/release/v${NODE_VERSION}/node-v${NODE_VERSION}-linux-x64.tar.gz" \
                          | tar -xz --strip-components=1 -C /usr/local/node-${NODE_VERSION}
                      
                      ENV PATH=/usr/local/node-${NODE_VERSION}/bin:$PATH
                      
                      RUN mkdir -p /app/code/morninfm
                      
                      # copy code
                      ADD start.sh /app/code/
                      
                      RUN curl -L "https://github.com/fox-one/mornin.fm/archive/${MORNIN_FM_VERSION}.tar.gz" \
                          | tar -xz --strip-components=1 -C /app/code/morninfm
                      
                      WORKDIR /app/code/morninfm
                      
                      # install packages
                      RUN npm install yarn -g
                      RUN yarn
                      RUN yarn build
                      
                      CMD [ "/app/code/start.sh" ]
                      

                      This file does not rely on "forking" the original app, but rather downloads its code from the upstream github repo, to make updates easier.

                      Also, I have only fixed the build, I have not even tried starting the app ^^

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                      • ?
                        A Former User @mehdi last edited by

                        @mehdi oh nice! How does one get access to fork and create repos on the cloudron GitLab? I was busy today but I can play around with this more tomorrow.

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                        • ?
                          A Former User last edited by

                          I got it running here: https://mornin.lahijiapps.dev/

                          Problem is it seems people dont end up in the same sessions even when joining with the same room id.

                          New code here: https://git.lahijiapps.dev/atrilahiji/morninfm-cloudron

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                          • jdaviescoates
                            jdaviescoates last edited by

                            Great to see this coming together, thanks for your efforts @atrilahiji @mehdi ! 🙂

                            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                            • mehdi
                              mehdi App Dev @jdaviescoates last edited by

                              @jdaviescoates Sure 🙂

                              However, I feel I have to mention that this app uses a very non-standard build system, that has not been maintained for 2+ years.

                              So, while the app itself looks sleek and modern, I must say I am not very optimistic about its future.

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                                oj @mehdi last edited by oj

                                @mehdi said in Mornin.fm - instant audio conferencing service:

                                However, I feel I have to mention that this app uses a very non-standard build system, that has not been maintained for 2+ years.

                                So, while the app itself looks sleek and modern, I must say I am not very optimistic about its future.

                                Could that be because the folks at Mixin - who had made mornin.fm - have now replaced it with Kraken (https://dev.to/cedricfung/webrtc-audio-conferencing-architecture-15am)?

                                https://github.com/MixinNetwork/kraken.fm
                                https://kraken.fm/

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                                • mehdi
                                  mehdi App Dev @oj last edited by

                                  @oj It seems both of these are front-ends for the same back-end audio-conferencing server, with Mornin being a little more feature-rich, and Kraken being more minimalistic. Not 100% sure though, it's really not very clear.

                                  In any case, they both seem more like a fun coding experiment someone did over a week-end, more than apps meant to be used in production...

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                                    oj @mehdi last edited by

                                    Hi @mehdi, I was influenced by three of the developer's blog posts:

                                    a) here, he explains his motivation for developing an audio-only-SFU based on Pion (i.e. Kraken) after having examined Janus, Jitsi, Mediasoup; and why he abandoned the mornin.fm approach

                                    b) here he spells out how he used Kraken to roll out the E2EE group audio call feature (using Signal Protocol + Chrome's WebRTC Insertable Streams) in his Open Source Mixin Messenger

                                    c) and finally, here, where he explains how to deploy the Kraken Group Audio Conferencing Service and points out that "A self hosted group audio conferencing service will provide good privacy because the data never leaves your servers, and you will get more excellent performance compared to shared services like Zoom, since you could choose the servers near the participants, and make use of all the system resources and bandwidth."

                                    Therefore, I felt that Kraken.fm (even if it is not E2EE) would make a fast, private audio conferencing service for the community on my Cloudron (eg. for large 75+ person townhalls).

                                    I already run a large, separate Jitsi server - and that is where these private, community audio-events are held today - but this seems to be a more elegant solution!

                                    Finally, it uses the same stack as peercalls.com ...which is why I had put it on that thread.

                                    Cheers!

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                                    • girish
                                      girish Staff @Guest last edited by

                                      @atrilahiji said in Mornin.fm - instant audio conferencing service:

                                      @mehdi oh nice! How does one get access to fork and create repos on the cloudron GitLab? I was busy today but I can play around with this more tomorrow.

                                      I have given you access. We keep the initial fork count to 0, because we get too much spam from GitLab and I haven't figured how to keep this spam low 😕

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                                        A Former User @mehdi last edited by

                                        @mehdi Agree. I don't have an insane amount of hope about the future of this project unless its re-built. Could be a fun project...

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                                          A Former User @girish last edited by

                                          @girish Also thanks! I'll see how far I get with this one. I imagine we will either have to look at another project or it might warrant a new app 🙂

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                                            A Former User last edited by A Former User

                                            I'm a bit stuck trying to get this to work. I've pushed my cleaned up code over to the cloudron git here if anyone would like to try their hand at getting people calls working. Right now, two people can use the same room code but they don't see eachother. Not sure what is going wrong here and honestly I don't have the willpower to keep trying to get this clunker to work. I'll leave the repo for anyone else who wants to try.

                                            Repo: https://git.cloudron.io/AtriLahiji/morninfm
                                            My demo: https://mornin.lahijiapps.dev/

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