What's coming in 6.0 (take 2)
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@girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):
Right, those features like operators have to come from mail clients themselves. Note that solr is actually not adding anything new to what is already there. It's just making search faster internally by having an index.
Thanks. I so wish there were better open webmail clients. Mailpile does most of what I want but development has seemingly largely stalled
Roundcube at least has these:
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for Roundcube, the others didn't pass my short attention span for acceptable daily-drivers @marcusquinn Nothing to do with 6.0 but since webmail distracted, I think EspoCRM is worth a mention as a webmail client, which I'm intending to give a whirl soon. Don't know how performant the search will be in that but will share feedback as I do.
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for Roundcube, the others didn't pass my short attention span for acceptable daily-drivers @marcusquinn said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):
@jdaviescoates for Roundcube, the others didn't pass my short attention span for acceptable daily-drivers
It does seem the best of bad bunch (it's the second most popular after Mailpile on https://selfhosted.libhunt.com/categories/1665-webmail-clients ), but frustrating that e.g. it seemingly can't be used to set-up filters and so need to use Rainloop for that. The state of open source webmail really is bad
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@marcusquinn said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):
@jdaviescoates for Roundcube, the others didn't pass my short attention span for acceptable daily-drivers
It does seem the best of bad bunch (it's the second most popular after Mailpile on https://selfhosted.libhunt.com/categories/1665-webmail-clients ), but frustrating that e.g. it seemingly can't be used to set-up filters and so need to use Rainloop for that. The state of open source webmail really is bad
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I use rainloop as I use nextcloud contacts and calendars and it made sense for my users to have their webmail in the same app. But also not have to deal with the absolute garbage that is Nextcloud Mail.
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I use rainloop as I use nextcloud contacts and calendars and it made sense for my users to have their webmail in the same app. But also not have to deal with the absolute garbage that is Nextcloud Mail.
@atrilahiji said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):
the absolute garbage that is Nextcloud Mail.
To be fair, it is pretty new and getting better. One day it might even be the best! (but not today).
I can't really remember properly, but I think it recently added a way to have multiple identities and to easily switch between them, something which is missing from some of the others (I forget which).
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@atrilahiji said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):
the absolute garbage that is Nextcloud Mail.
To be fair, it is pretty new and getting better. One day it might even be the best! (but not today).
I can't really remember properly, but I think it recently added a way to have multiple identities and to easily switch between them, something which is missing from some of the others (I forget which).
@jdaviescoates True. One thing that was frustrating was 1) the lack of filters and 2) no way to integrate with cloudron mail like the Rainloop app in Nextcloud.
Also there was a point where new emails just stopped coming through on there. Got mad and switched.
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@jdaviescoates True. One thing that was frustrating was 1) the lack of filters and 2) no way to integrate with cloudron mail like the Rainloop app in Nextcloud.
Also there was a point where new emails just stopped coming through on there. Got mad and switched.
@atrilahiji said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):
- no way to integrate with cloudron mail like the Rainloop app in Nextcloud.
On that specific point, Nextcloud Mail does fine in my experience if the users have their cloudron email as their primary email, then you can do similar to the following (my.demo.com used in place of mail server name):
So it can depend a lot on your setup, but I'll freely give you that no sieve support is incredibly frustrating, plus I constantly can't find features that I feel like should be there, and even when it's "working" the visual design is so weird to me that things still feel wrong. I mean, I'd give it like a 4/10 and "would not recommend to a friend" but for some users/clients...it's evidently good enough?
The rolling average in my experience is definitely hot garbage, but sometimes it's acceptable garbage.
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@atrilahiji said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):
- no way to integrate with cloudron mail like the Rainloop app in Nextcloud.
On that specific point, Nextcloud Mail does fine in my experience if the users have their cloudron email as their primary email, then you can do similar to the following (my.demo.com used in place of mail server name):
So it can depend a lot on your setup, but I'll freely give you that no sieve support is incredibly frustrating, plus I constantly can't find features that I feel like should be there, and even when it's "working" the visual design is so weird to me that things still feel wrong. I mean, I'd give it like a 4/10 and "would not recommend to a friend" but for some users/clients...it's evidently good enough?
The rolling average in my experience is definitely hot garbage, but sometimes it's acceptable garbage.
@jimcavoli Great tip!!
@girish Worth making these Mail app settings default on all Nextcloud instances? My understanding is they wouldn't take effect unless "Apply and create/update for all users" was clicked, so should be safe for existing installs.
Also, worth adding to the docs given it's a Sys Admin time-saver for onboarding the Mail app, albeit as mostly useful just inside Nextcloud usage.
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Loving 6.0! One thing I’d like to suggest for a minor release is adding a start/stop and restart button along the top when looking at an apps settings. Like the new ones you added for logs and terminal. Also a file browser for the new volumes feature would be nice.
Loving volumes!!! Honestly it’s a lifesaver. My fiancé prefers Emby while I prefer jellyfin, and we use Emby on our smart TV while there’s no Jellyfin web OS app. Thanks @nebulon @girish
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Loving 6.0! One thing I’d like to suggest for a minor release is adding a start/stop and restart button along the top when looking at an apps settings. Like the new ones you added for logs and terminal. Also a file browser for the new volumes feature would be nice.
Loving volumes!!! Honestly it’s a lifesaver. My fiancé prefers Emby while I prefer jellyfin, and we use Emby on our smart TV while there’s no Jellyfin web OS app. Thanks @nebulon @girish
@atrilahiji said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):
Also a file browser for the new volumes feature would be nice.
There's a button right next to each Volume, btw. For next release, we plan to put volumes also into the app's file manager as well for convenience.
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@atrilahiji said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):
Also a file browser for the new volumes feature would be nice.
There's a button right next to each Volume, btw. For next release, we plan to put volumes also into the app's file manager as well for convenience.
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@girish hahah you know I found the other issues and totally thought of the volumes one without checking. Whoops...
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@girish Did the
adminPathmanifest argument get removed in V6.0? I just updated and they're gone from my custom apps? -
@lonk https://docs.cloudron.io/custom-apps/manifest/#configurepath Looks like it's still there. Maybe the name changed ?
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@mehdi Maybe the update removed it, I'll do a full re-install and see if it brings back the admin url button.
