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Option to automatically reboot Ubuntu for security updates

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  • nebulonN nebulon

    We removed the explicit sync in the reboot script now: https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/box/-/commit/dd75cdb37ed751b31c35755e5e8c2f96daeec81b

    Lets see if this fixes the slow reboots at least. As mentioned in that commit, running sync on a system which is busy using the disks, it can take a long time. So usually first the processes have to be terminated and then the sync should be issued. This is what happens from now on then. I don't even remember why we put that sync there in the first place.

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    @nebulon and @girish somehow this change (or something else) made the reboot of my 3 cloudron servers superfast!

    Before it took at least 4-6 minutes and today everything (all services and apps) are up again within 1 minute!!!!

    Good job!!

    πŸ™‚

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    • imc67I imc67

      @nebulon and @girish somehow this change (or something else) made the reboot of my 3 cloudron servers superfast!

      Before it took at least 4-6 minutes and today everything (all services and apps) are up again within 1 minute!!!!

      Good job!!

      πŸ™‚

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      #12

      @imc67 Same here. Was really fast tonight for security updates.

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      Dustin Dauncey
      www.d19.ca

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        #13

        Mine was really noticable faster too. Running Ubuntu 18.04 OS here.
        Reboot and apps up and running in less than a minute. Like 40 to 45 seconds in total.

        Keep up the good work Cloudron staff πŸ‘ πŸ‘

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          #14

          Wow. 🀯

          It's WAY faster now.

          Like, lightning fast. ⚑

          I just did a reboot to finish a Ubuntu security update and everything was back up and running in less than 60 seconds.

          I almost couldn't believe it!

          Thanks!

          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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            #15

            Same here, less than a minute now. Still looking forward to live patches. But I reboot a lot to change the way apphealthmonitor.js works (making it more accurate) and I need to reboot after every change so this is just a godsend. πŸŽ‰

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              #16

              Guess that β€œsync” was the problem then, though weird if it’s been in there for years already without issues. Maybe something just incompatible after certain updates were applied which caused sync to take so long.

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              Dustin Dauncey
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                @DanTheMan
                Likely due to improvements in 18.04.4 and above.

                @Lonk
                To avoid having to reboot the box, you can run your tests in a docker container using the sysbox-runc for full OS (machine image) capability in a docker container.

                Then just reboot the sysbox container.
                See requirements: https://github.com/nestybox/sysbox-ee/blob/master/docs/distro-compat.md

                Conscious tech

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                • robiR robi

                  @DanTheMan
                  Likely due to improvements in 18.04.4 and above.

                  @Lonk
                  To avoid having to reboot the box, you can run your tests in a docker container using the sysbox-runc for full OS (machine image) capability in a docker container.

                  Then just reboot the sysbox container.
                  See requirements: https://github.com/nestybox/sysbox-ee/blob/master/docs/distro-compat.md

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                  Lonkle
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #18

                  @robi Interesting feature. Could save development time. Thanks!

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                    #19

                    Is there any news on this? What shall we do if the only sysadmin is on vacation/sick for 4 weeks? A automatic reboot in case it's needed for security updates would be good.

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                      #20

                      I guess it may make sense to add an optional automatic reboot in such cases, although this may cause downtime in unexpected timeslots if apps are used in multiple timezones, especially if reboot takes longer.

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                        Yep. For those cases it shouldn't be too bad: The fixed timeslots/dates can be communicated/planned accordingly and if it's on demand and no admin is available, the users can get told that they should be worried only if downtime is >1h or something like that. That's at least better than no patched server and in worst case coming home and finding a disaster 😬.

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                          #22

                          This can be automated today with ctfreak which can reboot a system if certain conditions are met. Would be good to document such options.

                          Conscious tech

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                            Ideally we soon can enable ubuntu livepatch by default, then this should go away. Until that it looks like we have some blocking process or so during reboot. We have gotten various reports now that reboots are slow and I also saw that on one of our company Cloudrons yesterday. Unfortunately we are not sure what happens yet.

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                            @nebulon just for information - livepatch doesn't mean you don't have to reboot - it just lets you postpone that moment as convenient.

                            For sync - a good practice on old good *nix is to issue sync twice before reboot - to make sure the buffers dumped for sure.

                            On the reboot automation using third-party apps - it's doable; everything is, but why, if you can just add it inside of the system?

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