Why does Kutt use so many google services?

[robi]

@JOduMonT for what reason?

[JOduMonT]

@robi said in Why does Kutt use so many google services?:

@JOduMonT for what reason?

JS ping home such as API

[robi]

@JOduMonT Define home for a self-hosted system serving up the JS. Also, which API, self-hosted or otherwise?

[girish]

@andreasdueren I think maintaining upstream patches is out of scope for us (unless it's some serious temporary bug). Are you able to report this upstream? For example, https://github.com/thedevs-network/kutt/commit/4e672a8b51e741f0f276fab999d622dc5337ca88 removed GA, so maybe they are open to this.

[andreasdueren]

@girish Understandable. Unfortunately it looks like the maintainers don't seem to be very interested in removing GA seeing these issues being open for a while now. Maybe I have to go back to yourls

[timconsidine]

@andreasdueren I missed the original post, but shall now look to move away from Kutt. Shame because it looks nice and works well, but I can't tolerate anything built around Google services.

Yourls works but is just ugly and dated (IMHO).

Looking at alternatives :

• https://github.com/shlinkio/shlink (Dockerfile √)
  (wishlist https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2325/shlink-modern-url-shortener?lang=en-GB)
• https://github.com/muety/anchr (Dockerfile √)
• https://github.com/ldidry/lstu (Dockerfile √)
• https://github.com/urlhum/urlhum (Dockerfile √)
• https://github.com/steven-tey/dub (no Dockerfile)
  (wishlist https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/7719/dub-an-open-source-bit-ly-alternative-for-url-redirection?lang=en-GB)
• https://github.com/cmpct-io (no Dockerfile )
• https://github.com/origranot/reduced.to (no Dockerfile)
• https://github.com/webfuelcode/link2u (script)

[robi]

I've generally solved that problem by using the LocalCDN browser extension which blocks such requests from any sites.

[jdaviescoates]

@andreasdueren said in Why does Kutt use so many google services?:

yourls

I prefer that anyway because you can customise the homepage of the domain

Kutt has a nicer UI, but I don't see the need for a nice UI for such a simple tool. I just need to be able to create shortlink and track how many clicks they get and YOURLS does that perfectly fine imho.

[andreasdueren]

@timconsidine I'm currently looking more into shlink which ticks a lot of boxes. It looks like this could potentially run in a lamp stack if no one ports it for cloudron it seems

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Edit: Seems to run well in a lamp stack. Now my only Problem is that there is no public facing UI and user accounts

[JOduMonT]

@robi said in Why does Kutt use so many google services?:

@JOduMonT Define home for a self-hosted system serving up the JS. Also, which API, self-hosted or otherwise?

we might be lost in the translation/transmission
when I said ping home; I meant phone home to make a connection so if you don't localize your JS, the provider notice you (ping)

otherwise it was just to raise awareness on JS such as Stallman did years ago and now https://openjsf.org do.