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Relays not working anymore?

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  • girishG girish

    @murgero any logs or more information on what fails and how to reproduce this? I am not an expert on mastodon, what exactly is a relay?

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    murgero
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    @girish Relays for ActivityPub / Mastodon allow servers that have never seen each other to communicate - https://relay.mastodon.host/ is one relay. Essentially if you have a new server you want to fill up with messages, toots, etc you join a relay.

    Also - the logs are barren of any errors beyond "401 - something wrong" errors.

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    • murgeroM murgero

      @girish Relays for ActivityPub / Mastodon allow servers that have never seen each other to communicate - https://relay.mastodon.host/ is one relay. Essentially if you have a new server you want to fill up with messages, toots, etc you join a relay.

      Also - the logs are barren of any errors beyond "401 - something wrong" errors.

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      @murgero dumb question but did you added https://relay.mastodon.host/inbox as the relay URL ?

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      • rmdesR rmdes

        @murgero dumb question but did you added https://relay.mastodon.host/inbox as the relay URL ?

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        @rmdes yes, I've used the relay in the past and it works on servers I manually install through a VM.

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          I tried adding a relay and it says 'Waiting for approval' . I guess I have to wait? Is this some manual approval?

          06059e65-6d0e-421c-9f43-c45d0b51c752-image.png

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          • girishG girish

            I tried adding a relay and it says 'Waiting for approval' . I guess I have to wait? Is this some manual approval?

            06059e65-6d0e-421c-9f43-c45d0b51c752-image.png

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            @girish said in Relays not working anymore?:

            I tried adding a relay and it says 'Waiting for approval' . I guess I have to wait? Is this some manual approval?

            The approval is automatic - you will see your instance listed already in the approved section but your instance never actually see's it was approved. Going through logs, you should also see some http 401/40X errors when the relay tries to do a pub/priv handshake.

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            • murgeroM murgero

              @girish said in Relays not working anymore?:

              I tried adding a relay and it says 'Waiting for approval' . I guess I have to wait? Is this some manual approval?

              The approval is automatic - you will see your instance listed already in the approved section but your instance never actually see's it was approved. Going through logs, you should also see some http 401/40X errors when the relay tries to do a pub/priv handshake.

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              @murgero Right, I see the errors in the logs.

              I was browsing through existing registered instances and saw that social.cloudron.io is there! And indeed, our company instance has this approved and working. I wonder what is different.

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              • murgeroM murgero

                @girish said in Relays not working anymore?:

                I tried adding a relay and it says 'Waiting for approval' . I guess I have to wait? Is this some manual approval?

                The approval is automatic - you will see your instance listed already in the approved section but your instance never actually see's it was approved. Going through logs, you should also see some http 401/40X errors when the relay tries to do a pub/priv handshake.

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                #9

                @murgero Found it . https://discourse.joinmastodon.org/t/upgrading-from-3-2-0-to-3-2-1-broke-relays/3014 and https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/pull/14556 . Apparently, the relay software is broken and needs to be updated to be compatible with latest mastodon 3.2.1. It seems a fix was put in recently - https://git.pleroma.social/pleroma/relay/-/issues/10 and now mastodon.host needs to update the relay software.

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                • murgeroM murgero

                  @girish said in Relays not working anymore?:

                  I tried adding a relay and it says 'Waiting for approval' . I guess I have to wait? Is this some manual approval?

                  The approval is automatic - you will see your instance listed already in the approved section but your instance never actually see's it was approved. Going through logs, you should also see some http 401/40X errors when the relay tries to do a pub/priv handshake.

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                  @murgero OK, can confirm that if we use mastodon 3.2.0, the relay starts working. Cloudron package version is 1.4.0

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                  • girishG girish

                    @murgero OK, can confirm that if we use mastodon 3.2.0, the relay starts working. Cloudron package version is 1.4.0

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                    #11

                    @girish this is useful information! thank you - I will hold out for the new relay version.

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                    • girishG girish

                      @murgero OK, can confirm that if we use mastodon 3.2.0, the relay starts working. Cloudron package version is 1.4.0

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                      @girish I noticed you changed the picture - is that due to the relay fixing itself or did you downgrade your mastodon instance?

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                      • murgeroM murgero

                        @girish I noticed you changed the picture - is that due to the relay fixing itself or did you downgrade your mastodon instance?

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                        @murgero sorry, which picture?

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                        • girishG girish

                          @murgero sorry, which picture?

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                          @girish 01a8acdb-7f48-46fb-bbb2-a52d398ea566-image.png

                          That picture used to say "Waiting for approval" didn't it?

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                            @murgero ah, the waiting for approval was from my test instance whereas the approved screenshot was from social.cloudron.io . It seems the ui says it's approved if you come from older mastodon (but doesn't work anyway)

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                            • girishG girish

                              @murgero Found it . https://discourse.joinmastodon.org/t/upgrading-from-3-2-0-to-3-2-1-broke-relays/3014 and https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/pull/14556 . Apparently, the relay software is broken and needs to be updated to be compatible with latest mastodon 3.2.1. It seems a fix was put in recently - https://git.pleroma.social/pleroma/relay/-/issues/10 and now mastodon.host needs to update the relay software.

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                              @girish This is part of my problem I posted about yesterday (in fact mastodon.host doesn't even work via HTTP anymore), but also, note the Sidkiq errors I mentioned that might be somewhat related to relays in general.

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