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  • P privsec

    @girish If that is the case then how come I see data in the mounted path, but not in the wasabi bucket?

    In the data directory I see no files 8c767314-bc62-4b01-a119-e669969af10c-image.png

    But via file manager c2cec72d-bf49-4587-85ea-6a934a1440de-image.png
    I see these files f32df541-df4f-4fdc-85c2-126d6b94c4d8-image.png
    But in wasabi I see d871f0b6-196a-4bb2-8f32-78dd40ff21b0-image.png

    Something isnt right and I dont know what it is

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    @privsec I remember the Backblaze B2 UI does not always show the latest items in the object store. Could it be similar with Wasabi? If you create a file in the filesystem, do you see it in wasabi immediately? One other idea is to install rclone in another machine and list the remote wasabi mount. What objects/files do you see?

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      @privsec I remember the Backblaze B2 UI does not always show the latest items in the object store. Could it be similar with Wasabi? If you create a file in the filesystem, do you see it in wasabi immediately? One other idea is to install rclone in another machine and list the remote wasabi mount. What objects/files do you see?

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      @girish Nope, I added 7 giggs of files and nothing is in wasabi.

      Do you mean set up a second instance of rclone on another machine, set up the remote there and see if rclone syncs the files with the 2nd machine?

      Is there a better/different way to do a file mounting?

      I only did rclone based off of @robi 's request/recommendation

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        @girish Nope, I added 7 giggs of files and nothing is in wasabi.

        Do you mean set up a second instance of rclone on another machine, set up the remote there and see if rclone syncs the files with the 2nd machine?

        Is there a better/different way to do a file mounting?

        I only did rclone based off of @robi 's request/recommendation

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        @privsec You can try s3fs because wasabi even has an article about it - https://wasabi-support.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115001744651-How-do-I-use-S3FS-with-Wasabi- . Also, for a start, I would test the mount first without Cloudron involved at all, just to make sure it's not Cloudron related.

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          If we can't validate the rclone mount, don't continue with apps & Cloudron.

          Same for s3fs if you're going to try that again.

          The reason you see files locally but not remotely is because there's something wrong with the mount or it didn't work, hence all files written are only in a local directory.
          Remote is never getting data via the mount.

          Conscious tech

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          • robiR robi

            If we can't validate the rclone mount, don't continue with apps & Cloudron.

            Same for s3fs if you're going to try that again.

            The reason you see files locally but not remotely is because there's something wrong with the mount or it didn't work, hence all files written are only in a local directory.
            Remote is never getting data via the mount.

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            @robi
            To be clear, are you saying to stop trying? Or are you saying to verify the mount on my Server OS first and then afterwords resume with cloudron?

            @girish

            I will test the mount outside of cloudron and then report back.

            In addition, I will try out s3fs again and try to get that to work for me.

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            • P privsec

              @robi
              To be clear, are you saying to stop trying? Or are you saying to verify the mount on my Server OS first and then afterwords resume with cloudron?

              @girish

              I will test the mount outside of cloudron and then report back.

              In addition, I will try out s3fs again and try to get that to work for me.

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              @privsec the latter.

              verify the mount on my Server OS first and then afterwords resume with cloudron

              Conscious tech

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              • robiR robi

                @privsec the latter.

                verify the mount on my Server OS first and then afterwords resume with cloudron

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                #30

                @robi @girish
                Ok, noob alert

                Other then running rclone lsd remote:bucket and rclone ls wasabi:nextcloud.myprivsec. I do not know how to test rclones connection.

                I just created an empty text file called "hello.txt" via touch hello.txt in the mounted folder on my server, and it did not get sent to wasabi.

                So then that means that the connection is not working right?

                Could this be do to unmounting after a reboot? I believe one occurred after setting the mount up. How do i get this to persist through reboots?

                I am going to try out the s3fs once more right now and will report back on that.

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                • P privsec

                  @robi @girish
                  Ok, noob alert

                  Other then running rclone lsd remote:bucket and rclone ls wasabi:nextcloud.myprivsec. I do not know how to test rclones connection.

                  I just created an empty text file called "hello.txt" via touch hello.txt in the mounted folder on my server, and it did not get sent to wasabi.

                  So then that means that the connection is not working right?

                  Could this be do to unmounting after a reboot? I believe one occurred after setting the mount up. How do i get this to persist through reboots?

                  I am going to try out the s3fs once more right now and will report back on that.

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                  @privsec https://rclone.org/commands/rclone_mount/

                  Conscious tech

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                    #32

                    Ok, so I went through the s3fs installing and running and now I am getting this

                    root@vxxxx:~# s3fs xxxx.xxxx /mnt/volumes/nextcloud -o passwd_file=/etc/passwd-s3fs -o url=https://s3.eu-central-1.wasabisys.com -o use_path_request_style -o dbglevel=info -f -o curldbg
                    [CRT] s3fs.cpp:set_s3fs_log_level(257): change debug level from [CRT] to [INF]
                    [INF]     s3fs.cpp:set_mountpoint_attribute(4193): PROC(uid=0, gid=0) - MountPoint(uid=0, gid=0, mode=40755)
                    [CRT] s3fs.cpp:s3fs_init(3378): init v1.82(commit:unknown) with GnuTLS(gcrypt)
                    [INF] s3fs.cpp:s3fs_check_service(3754): check services.
                    [INF]       curl.cpp:CheckBucket(2914): check a bucket.
                    [INF]       curl.cpp:prepare_url(4205): URL is https://s3.eu-central-1.wasabisys.com/myprivsec.nextcloud/
                    [INF]       curl.cpp:prepare_url(4237): URL changed is https://s3.eu-central-1.wasabisys.com/myprivsec.nextcloud/
                    [INF]       curl.cpp:insertV4Headers(2267): computing signature [GET] [/] [] []
                    [INF]       curl.cpp:url_to_host(100): url is https://s3.eu-central-1.wasabisys.com
                    *   Trying 130.117.252.11...
                    * TCP_NODELAY set
                    * Connected to s3.eu-central-1.wasabisys.com (130.117.252.11) port 443 (#0)
                    * found 138 certificates in /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt
                    * found 414 certificates in /etc/ssl/certs
                    * ALPN, offering http/1.1
                    * SSL connection using TLS1.2 / ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
                    *        server certificate verification OK
                    *        server certificate status verification SKIPPED
                    *        common name: *.s3.eu-central-1.wasabisys.com (matched)
                    *        server certificate expiration date OK
                    *        server certificate activation date OK
                    *        certificate public key: RSA
                    *        certificate version: #3
                    *        subject: OU=Domain Control Validated,OU=EssentialSSL Wildcard,CN=*.s3.eu-central-1.wasabisys.com
                    *        start date: Thu, 24 Jan 2019 00:00:00 GMT
                    *        expire date: Sat, 23 Jan 2021 23:59:59 GMT
                    *        issuer: C=GB,ST=Greater Manchester,L=Salford,O=Sectigo Limited,CN=Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA
                    *        compression: NULL
                    * ALPN, server accepted to use http/1.1
                    > GET /myprivsec.nextcloud/ HTTP/1.1
                    host: s3.eu-central-1.wasabisys.com
                    User-Agent: s3fs/1.82 (commit hash unknown; GnuTLS(gcrypt))
                    Accept: */*
                    Authorization: AWS4-HMAC-SHA256 Credential=xxxxxx/us-east-1/s3/aws4_request, SignedHeaders=host;x-amz-content-sha256;x-amz-date, Signature=xxxxx
                    x-amz-content-sha256: e3b0c44298fc1c149afbf4c8996fb92427ae41e4649b934ca495991b7852b855
                    x-amz-date: 20201206T014829Z
                    
                    < HTTP/1.1 200 OK
                    < Content-Type: application/xml
                    < Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2020 01:48:29 GMT
                    < Server: WasabiS3/6.2.3223-2020-10-14-51cd02c (head02)
                    < x-amz-bucket-region: eu-central-1
                    < x-amz-id-2: xxxxx
                    < x-amz-request-id: xxxxx
                    < Transfer-Encoding: chunked
                    <
                    * Connection #0 to host s3.eu-central-1.wasabisys.com left intact
                    [INF]       curl.cpp:RequestPerform(1940): HTTP response code 200
                    

                    However, files are not updating. If I upload directly to wasabi, they are not showing in the cli, and vice versa.

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                    • P privsec

                      Ok, so I went through the s3fs installing and running and now I am getting this

                      root@vxxxx:~# s3fs xxxx.xxxx /mnt/volumes/nextcloud -o passwd_file=/etc/passwd-s3fs -o url=https://s3.eu-central-1.wasabisys.com -o use_path_request_style -o dbglevel=info -f -o curldbg
                      [CRT] s3fs.cpp:set_s3fs_log_level(257): change debug level from [CRT] to [INF]
                      [INF]     s3fs.cpp:set_mountpoint_attribute(4193): PROC(uid=0, gid=0) - MountPoint(uid=0, gid=0, mode=40755)
                      [CRT] s3fs.cpp:s3fs_init(3378): init v1.82(commit:unknown) with GnuTLS(gcrypt)
                      [INF] s3fs.cpp:s3fs_check_service(3754): check services.
                      [INF]       curl.cpp:CheckBucket(2914): check a bucket.
                      [INF]       curl.cpp:prepare_url(4205): URL is https://s3.eu-central-1.wasabisys.com/myprivsec.nextcloud/
                      [INF]       curl.cpp:prepare_url(4237): URL changed is https://s3.eu-central-1.wasabisys.com/myprivsec.nextcloud/
                      [INF]       curl.cpp:insertV4Headers(2267): computing signature [GET] [/] [] []
                      [INF]       curl.cpp:url_to_host(100): url is https://s3.eu-central-1.wasabisys.com
                      *   Trying 130.117.252.11...
                      * TCP_NODELAY set
                      * Connected to s3.eu-central-1.wasabisys.com (130.117.252.11) port 443 (#0)
                      * found 138 certificates in /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt
                      * found 414 certificates in /etc/ssl/certs
                      * ALPN, offering http/1.1
                      * SSL connection using TLS1.2 / ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384
                      *        server certificate verification OK
                      *        server certificate status verification SKIPPED
                      *        common name: *.s3.eu-central-1.wasabisys.com (matched)
                      *        server certificate expiration date OK
                      *        server certificate activation date OK
                      *        certificate public key: RSA
                      *        certificate version: #3
                      *        subject: OU=Domain Control Validated,OU=EssentialSSL Wildcard,CN=*.s3.eu-central-1.wasabisys.com
                      *        start date: Thu, 24 Jan 2019 00:00:00 GMT
                      *        expire date: Sat, 23 Jan 2021 23:59:59 GMT
                      *        issuer: C=GB,ST=Greater Manchester,L=Salford,O=Sectigo Limited,CN=Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA
                      *        compression: NULL
                      * ALPN, server accepted to use http/1.1
                      > GET /myprivsec.nextcloud/ HTTP/1.1
                      host: s3.eu-central-1.wasabisys.com
                      User-Agent: s3fs/1.82 (commit hash unknown; GnuTLS(gcrypt))
                      Accept: */*
                      Authorization: AWS4-HMAC-SHA256 Credential=xxxxxx/us-east-1/s3/aws4_request, SignedHeaders=host;x-amz-content-sha256;x-amz-date, Signature=xxxxx
                      x-amz-content-sha256: e3b0c44298fc1c149afbf4c8996fb92427ae41e4649b934ca495991b7852b855
                      x-amz-date: 20201206T014829Z
                      
                      < HTTP/1.1 200 OK
                      < Content-Type: application/xml
                      < Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2020 01:48:29 GMT
                      < Server: WasabiS3/6.2.3223-2020-10-14-51cd02c (head02)
                      < x-amz-bucket-region: eu-central-1
                      < x-amz-id-2: xxxxx
                      < x-amz-request-id: xxxxx
                      < Transfer-Encoding: chunked
                      <
                      * Connection #0 to host s3.eu-central-1.wasabisys.com left intact
                      [INF]       curl.cpp:RequestPerform(1940): HTTP response code 200
                      

                      However, files are not updating. If I upload directly to wasabi, they are not showing in the cli, and vice versa.

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                      @privsec

                      Ok, I never tried moving files with that screenshot above running.

                      Now that I have, and I tried moving content over it is looking similar to a packet sniffer as data is transferring over.

                      So does that mean I have to always ensure that command runs via ssh session?

                      I feel like thats way to manual and too much upkeep, especially if I have to constantly have an SSH session at all times.

                      So what am I missing?

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                        Ok, well I just dont get it.

                        ITs almost as if wasabi and cloudron are only syncing some information and not all. And honestly, its irritating the crap out of me to the point where I might just cancel the subscription I bought banking on getting nextlcoud and wasabi to work.
                        This should not be this difficult or problem prone.

                        App settings b37b2885-ec38-41ba-a2d0-9bd6ce1712c8-image.png

                        The base directory has no data in it. Which is what I told it to do.
                        f63f14bb-4695-4704-9742-07e8c3d776a1-image.png

                        In this photo, it is evident that there is data inside the /mnt/volumes/nextcloud folder
                        b16b8443-bac9-41f2-810c-f6155fc054ac-image.png

                        However, in my wasabi bucket, there is no where near as much info b45ecdb6-3a1c-432b-a927-40290ff20807-image.png

                        Why is cloudron only syncing a piece of the full app folder?

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                          Ok, well I just dont get it.

                          ITs almost as if wasabi and cloudron are only syncing some information and not all. And honestly, its irritating the crap out of me to the point where I might just cancel the subscription I bought banking on getting nextlcoud and wasabi to work.
                          This should not be this difficult or problem prone.

                          App settings b37b2885-ec38-41ba-a2d0-9bd6ce1712c8-image.png

                          The base directory has no data in it. Which is what I told it to do.
                          f63f14bb-4695-4704-9742-07e8c3d776a1-image.png

                          In this photo, it is evident that there is data inside the /mnt/volumes/nextcloud folder
                          b16b8443-bac9-41f2-810c-f6155fc054ac-image.png

                          However, in my wasabi bucket, there is no where near as much info b45ecdb6-3a1c-432b-a927-40290ff20807-image.png

                          Why is cloudron only syncing a piece of the full app folder?

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                          In addition, I thought maybe it was a folder/directory issue so I create one deeper level folder called wasabi in my server (fulll path /mnt/volumes/nextcloud/wasabi) and then I ran the command s3fs xxxx /mnt/volumes/nextcloud/wasabi -o passwd_file=/etc/passwd-s3fs -o url=https://s3.eu-central-1.wasabisys.com and then I went to the dashboard for nextcloud and moved the directory acf674e7-50c7-4759-9f03-acbca1e43706-image.png

                          Then I went to wasabi to see if anything got moved to it, and there is nothing. 5b45cce6-371d-4275-a8ee-a62d71f33994-image.png

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                          • P privsec

                            In addition, I thought maybe it was a folder/directory issue so I create one deeper level folder called wasabi in my server (fulll path /mnt/volumes/nextcloud/wasabi) and then I ran the command s3fs xxxx /mnt/volumes/nextcloud/wasabi -o passwd_file=/etc/passwd-s3fs -o url=https://s3.eu-central-1.wasabisys.com and then I went to the dashboard for nextcloud and moved the directory acf674e7-50c7-4759-9f03-acbca1e43706-image.png

                            Then I went to wasabi to see if anything got moved to it, and there is nothing. 5b45cce6-371d-4275-a8ee-a62d71f33994-image.png

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                            And, I cant do the remaining steps either per
                            https://wasabi-support.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115001744651-How-do-I-use-S3FS-with-Wasabi-
                            a08889d8-e861-4484-ba87-de68fd35df45-image.png
                            As when I try to follow these steps, I get this
                            7da4d0c4-7a46-43ba-8ed7-7f744d6685a7-image.png

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                              And, I cant do the remaining steps either per
                              https://wasabi-support.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115001744651-How-do-I-use-S3FS-with-Wasabi-
                              a08889d8-e861-4484-ba87-de68fd35df45-image.png
                              As when I try to follow these steps, I get this
                              7da4d0c4-7a46-43ba-8ed7-7f744d6685a7-image.png

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                              #37

                              And probably my final note,
                              I cant access the console of nextcloud either. It keeps doing this loop

                              First this one 8f2a1ab3-5343-48f0-b63b-60e04e005035-image.png
                              And then this one 072e714c-41e9-4c93-afbb-aa5154a73dc0-image.png
                              And hen it goes back to 4941f1b7-6ef7-41c8-a72f-209ab31f396e-image.png

                              Keep in mind, this is a brand new, fresh install not even logged into yet, my cache is cleared out as well

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                                And probably my final note,
                                I cant access the console of nextcloud either. It keeps doing this loop

                                First this one 8f2a1ab3-5343-48f0-b63b-60e04e005035-image.png
                                And then this one 072e714c-41e9-4c93-afbb-aa5154a73dc0-image.png
                                And hen it goes back to 4941f1b7-6ef7-41c8-a72f-209ab31f396e-image.png

                                Keep in mind, this is a brand new, fresh install not even logged into yet, my cache is cleared out as well

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                                @privsec Does the app say "Running" in the Cloudron dashboard? The Web Terminal won't work until the app is running.

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                                  And, I cant do the remaining steps either per
                                  https://wasabi-support.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115001744651-How-do-I-use-S3FS-with-Wasabi-
                                  a08889d8-e861-4484-ba87-de68fd35df45-image.png
                                  As when I try to follow these steps, I get this
                                  7da4d0c4-7a46-43ba-8ed7-7f744d6685a7-image.png

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                                  @privsec I will probably give s3fs a try tomorrow and see if I can write a guide for it 🙂 (I have never tried s3fs or rclone mount either, so let's see if I am successful).

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                                    @privsec Does the app say "Running" in the Cloudron dashboard? The Web Terminal won't work until the app is running.

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                                    @girish
                                    It is now saying 3507f874-9283-4c84-a722-0d6a60080337-image.png

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                                      @privsec I will probably give s3fs a try tomorrow and see if I can write a guide for it 🙂 (I have never tried s3fs or rclone mount either, so let's see if I am successful).

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                                      @girish Is there another mounting solution?

                                      It is absolutely pivotal that I get the app directories off my servers drive.

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                                        @girish Is there another mounting solution?

                                        It is absolutely pivotal that I get the app directories off my servers drive.

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                                        @privsec Is the goal here to have a large amount of space external (at correct price) to the server? If you are hosted on a VPS is there an option for you to attach external storage? For example, many VPS providers like time4vps, hetzner etc have quite cheap external disks that can be attached to a server. The reason I ask is even if s3fs or rclone mount does work, it's probably going to be quite slow - for example, I see posts like https://serverfault.com/questions/396100/s3fs-performance-improvements-or-alternative . We have no experience with how well these mounts work and if they work at all. Maybe files go missing, maybe it's unstable, we don't know.

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                                          There is also https://forum.rclone.org/ , maybe you can ask there about rclone mounting issues.

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