Help with Wasabi mounting

[girish]

@robi We have tried the setup of using S3 as objectstorage before in nextcloud and it just doesn't perform well. It also makes a very large number of s3 requests and for things like AWS this costs some real $$$. Other services like DO Spaces will promptly rate limit. Overall, the whole setup is unstable. It looks good on paper but doesn't work reliably for serious use.

for example: https://help.nextcloud.com/t/high-aws-s3-costs-due-to-nextcloud-requests/68687 and https://help.nextcloud.com/t/high-traffic-to-primary-storage-s3-from-nextcloud/83185 .

[robi]

@girish yes, the article explicitly warns about this, pointing out that AWS is not a good place to do this as it's not a part of the bandwidth alliance.

This is not a problem with NC, but of the underlying architecture chosen.

There is a way to make this work well, but one must understand all the pieces, as if you ignore one, it will be the lowest common denominator and bottleneck.

It is an Enterprise Deployment afterall.

[marcusquinn]

@girish This article suggests there's an old and a new way to do this, so I wonder if we're all talking about the same thing?

• https://autoize.com/s3-compatible-storage-for-nextcloud/

[robi]

@marcusquinn said in Help with Wasabi mounting:

@girish This article suggests there's an old and a new way to do this, so I wonder if we're all talking about the same thing?

• https://autoize.com/s3-compatible-storage-for-nextcloud/

old = adding an additional S3 store from within NC running locally.
new = setting up NC with S3 as primary storage.

[girish]

@robi @marcusquinn Both methods have been there for a some time. I have investigated this a year or so ago, for example, this and this. Back then, it was not really stable. It will create a lot of oid:xx files in the object backend and AFAIK there is no easy way to change an installation from one storage to another (it's setup once at install time). All this means, that as @robi pointed out, this is really targeted at enterprises and people having full time dedicated sysadmins and nextcloud support contract. Don't get me wrong, I am sure it can be made to work but it's not something we want to support (best to pay nextcloud for this)

[marcusquinn]

@girish Fair enough. Thanks.

[cdolson]

@robi I've managed to get this working using Digital Ocean Spaces on my Cloudron Nextcloud installation by following the instructions at this resource. This involved simply editing the config/config.php file to include the following:

'objectstore' => 
array (
  'class' => '\\OC\\Files\\ObjectStore\\S3',
  'arguments' => 
  array (
    'bucket' => 'yourbucketname',
    'key' => 'YOURKEY',
    'secret' => 'YOURSECRET',
    'hostname' => 'nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com',
    'region' => 'nyc3',
    'port' => 443,
    'use_ssl' => true,
    'use_path_style' => true,
  ),
),
);

I added this to the very end of my config.php, and before the last closing );

Functionality tested and working. Uploads and downloads happen directly within the DO Spaces bucket. Configuration persists between reboots.

I am new to Cloudron, so I am not certain if these changes will persist after updates to the Nextcloud app or Cloudron.

[privsec]

@cdolson How are the speeds?