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Can I reset the DKIM settings?

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  • girishG girish

    @jdaviescoates It appears fine in the DNS.

    $ host -t TXT cloudron-uniteddiversityorg._domainkey.uniteddiversity.coop
    cloudron-uniteddiversityorg._domainkey.uniteddiversity.coop descriptive text "v=DKIM1; t=s; p=MIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQDFZ/gh1xMkTbgkE1fEQWrFY8jn0uoxpLLvtAPHhWKNRSv4k88PKw/kqdBCHx3fV1CjabMH8zjZBQgXpRqfopJLbdHmGDUKkbpFfb4XNoXXGjxbJzceBVWJtVnKdmNRT5wOFSpltJkkSSU3uRbwn81NEBd9Duavt4x8wu+tUFkQ4wIDAQAB"
    

    Maybe the web tool is (temporarily) broken ?

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    @girish said in Can I reset the DKIM settings?:

    Maybe the web tool is (temporarily) broken ?

    It appears fine there too.

    b5f21411-6508-437e-ae79-af5020cbfed2-image.png

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    • girishG girish

      @girish said in Can I reset the DKIM settings?:

      Maybe the web tool is (temporarily) broken ?

      It appears fine there too.

      b5f21411-6508-437e-ae79-af5020cbfed2-image.png

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      @girish I was doing it this way:

      uniteddiversity.coop:email

      32709e79-f096-4493-a2d7-78be03c5afa3-image.png

      As you can see that is still showing an error.

      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

        @girish I was doing it this way:

        uniteddiversity.coop:email

        32709e79-f096-4493-a2d7-78be03c5afa3-image.png

        As you can see that is still showing an error.

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        @jdaviescoates said in Can I reset the DKIM settings?:

        uniteddiversity.coop:email

        I think the tool wants a domain name. Why are you adding a ":email" in the end? Is that a special syntax on that site?

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        • girishG girish

          @jdaviescoates said in Can I reset the DKIM settings?:

          uniteddiversity.coop:email

          I think the tool wants a domain name. Why are you adding a ":email" in the end? Is that a special syntax on that site?

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          @girish said in Can I reset the DKIM settings?:

          Why are you adding a ":email" in the end? Is that a special syntax on that site?

          Yes:

          a9f213fb-c078-49c1-8333-3fe570f92a55-image.png

          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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          • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

            @girish said in Can I reset the DKIM settings?:

            Why are you adding a ":email" in the end? Is that a special syntax on that site?

            Yes:

            a9f213fb-c078-49c1-8333-3fe570f92a55-image.png

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            @jdaviescoates Ahhh, I had to read that a couple of times to grok it. The :email is not literal but is the DKIM selector (says so in the text). The DKIM selector in Cloudron is cloudron-uniteddiversityorg (this changes for each installation based on the primary domain. this allows to add same domain on multiple cloudrons).

            So, try with uniteddiversity.coop:cloudron-uniteddiversityorg and that does work.

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            • girishG girish

              @jdaviescoates Ahhh, I had to read that a couple of times to grok it. The :email is not literal but is the DKIM selector (says so in the text). The DKIM selector in Cloudron is cloudron-uniteddiversityorg (this changes for each installation based on the primary domain. this allows to add same domain on multiple cloudrons).

              So, try with uniteddiversity.coop:cloudron-uniteddiversityorg and that does work.

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              @girish Your comprehensional wizardy astounds me! Seriously, impressive. I aim for that type of thinking to better deduce problems, and when I see it done, right in front of me, it's impressive.

              EDIT: though this sounds sarcastic, I am being totally sincere!

              A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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              • scookeS scooke

                @girish Your comprehensional wizardy astounds me! Seriously, impressive. I aim for that type of thinking to better deduce problems, and when I see it done, right in front of me, it's impressive.

                EDIT: though this sounds sarcastic, I am being totally sincere!

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                @scooke said in Can I reset the DKIM settings?:

                EDIT: though this sounds sarcastic, I am being totally sincere!

                ha ha 🙂

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                • girishG girish

                  @jdaviescoates Ahhh, I had to read that a couple of times to grok it. The :email is not literal but is the DKIM selector (says so in the text). The DKIM selector in Cloudron is cloudron-uniteddiversityorg (this changes for each installation based on the primary domain. this allows to add same domain on multiple cloudrons).

                  So, try with uniteddiversity.coop:cloudron-uniteddiversityorg and that does work.

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                  @girish said in Can I reset the DKIM settings?:

                  So, try with uniteddiversity.coop:cloudron-uniteddiversityorg and that does work.

                  Great, thanks for working that out! 🙏

                  Next question: did it ever become possible to reset such things?

                  For not particular reason other than neatness I'd kinda like it to by cloudron-uniteddiversitycoop instead, or even randomstring_uniteddiversity.coop

                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                  • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                    @girish said in Can I reset the DKIM settings?:

                    So, try with uniteddiversity.coop:cloudron-uniteddiversityorg and that does work.

                    Great, thanks for working that out! 🙏

                    Next question: did it ever become possible to reset such things?

                    For not particular reason other than neatness I'd kinda like it to by cloudron-uniteddiversitycoop instead, or even randomstring_uniteddiversity.coop

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                    @jdaviescoates I think https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/7478/more-on-whitelabelling-cloudron-for-providing-managed-cloudron-instances . That never got implemented

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                    • girishG girish

                      @scooke So, the DKIM keys can be arbitrarily named. It's not a problem that it has the old domains name as part of it. In more recent Cloudron version, we have actually started using a hash and not the concrete name because people had similar concern as yours about "referencing" an older name.

                      If you want to reset this, you have to update the database directly for the moment. You can do it like this:

                       mysql -uroot -ppassword -e "select domain, dkimSelector from box.mail;"
                      

                      The above command will show the current domain and dkim selector. To update it, something like:

                       mysql -uroot -ppassword -e "UPDATE box.mail SET dkimSelector='cloudron' WHERE domain='currentdomain';"
                      

                      (please update the domain value accordingly).

                      As said, this is not a problem as such, so there is no issue leaving it as-is. I will make the dkim selector configurable in the coming release.

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                      @girish, I was thinking of this:

                      @girish said in Can I reset the DKIM settings?:

                      I will make the dkim selector configurable in the coming release.

                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                        @girish, I was thinking of this:

                        @girish said in Can I reset the DKIM settings?:

                        I will make the dkim selector configurable in the coming release.

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                        @jdaviescoates right, unfortunately, it was not prioritized/implemented.

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                          @girish , It's a couple years later and I just stumbled across this while doing some DNS record cleanups and remembering that some use the older style DKIM name and others use the newer style. The "OCD" in me wants to format the older ones to use the newer naming scheme. Is this something that ever made it in the product? I see you mentioned that you "will make the dim selector configurable in the coming release" but I don't think I see a way to do that yet. I do see a way from above in this thread though that should do the trick manually in MySQL. https://forum.cloudron.io/post/40250

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                          Dustin Dauncey
                          www.d19.ca

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                            @d19dotca we didn't implement this. So, you have to just edit the database. It's in the mail table , there is a field called dkimSelector . If you change it, that's the key it expects . You have to also restart the mail service to pick up the new value in the database.

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                              It's going well so far in my testing. Updated about 6 domains with the newer DKIM selector today. It'd definitely be nice to have this configurable though in the UI so we can change it in one sweep to a new DKIM selector of our choosing. 🙂

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                              Dustin Dauncey
                              www.d19.ca

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