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Does anyone have a more recent, working FORM solution using existing apps on Cloudron?

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      Inspiration may come from any form capabilities with IFTTT and Zapier, for which we have N8N.

      Even a simple HTML/CSS form can then submit things to N8N which can pass it on to any one of the other apps on Cloudron.

      It seems we need more "connector" type integrations with all the Cloudron apps via N8N so all of the input->data transform->output flows can be completed.

      How many N8N recipes do we have for Cloudron apps? 2? 3?

      Conscious tech

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      • robiR robi

        Inspiration may come from any form capabilities with IFTTT and Zapier, for which we have N8N.

        Even a simple HTML/CSS form can then submit things to N8N which can pass it on to any one of the other apps on Cloudron.

        It seems we need more "connector" type integrations with all the Cloudron apps via N8N so all of the input->data transform->output flows can be completed.

        How many N8N recipes do we have for Cloudron apps? 2? 3?

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        @robi said in Does anyone have a more recent, working FORM solution using existing apps on Cloudron?:

        How many N8N recipes do we have for Cloudron apps? 2? 3?

        Recipes = workflows to be shared? Or n8n supported apps that are on cloudron ?

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        • timconsidineT timconsidine

          @robi said in Does anyone have a more recent, working FORM solution using existing apps on Cloudron?:

          How many N8N recipes do we have for Cloudron apps? 2? 3?

          Recipes = workflows to be shared? Or n8n supported apps that are on cloudron ?

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          @timconsidine workflows, but both would be good.

          A new N8N thread on the possible App integrations and their related workflows would be useful!

          Conscious tech

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          • scookeS scooke

            I found this post https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1329/forms-scheduling-etc?_=1641453390415

            But that was 2018! Has anyone figured out a way to host forms, maybe through Nextcloud, or Wordpress, or Mautic even? I am about to start exploring, but if someone already has a working solution it would save me some time. More specifically, I am looking for a Contact Form/Get in Touch, not so much an appointment-type form. I supposed a "subscription form" would work too. Thank you!

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            @scooke Nextcloud forms is an option for sure (though I've not yet tried it myself).

            In the past I've used this WordPress plugin too (there are loads more, but I can vouch that this one is easy to use and powerful):

            https://wordpress.org/plugins/forminator/

            I guess Mautic or Mailtrain forms could be used too.

            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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              Ok, well, some suggestions I'll give a go, and let you know how it goes.

              A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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              • luckowL Online
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                Most CMSs come with a contact form. If you do not use a CMS, it depends on your desired workflow. What should happen when a contact submits the form? In the golden age of the internet, we had Matt's script archive for such purposes http://www.scriptarchive.com/.

                My suggestion for low volume and only email "notification": use a CMS and activate the contact form (or install a plugin/extension/module).
                For larger volume or a better marketing workflow: install mautic.

                If you need a flexible solution for complete different purposes and with no/low code, try baserow.

                Pronouns: he/him | Primary language: German

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                • luckowL luckow

                  Most CMSs come with a contact form. If you do not use a CMS, it depends on your desired workflow. What should happen when a contact submits the form? In the golden age of the internet, we had Matt's script archive for such purposes http://www.scriptarchive.com/.

                  My suggestion for low volume and only email "notification": use a CMS and activate the contact form (or install a plugin/extension/module).
                  For larger volume or a better marketing workflow: install mautic.

                  If you need a flexible solution for complete different purposes and with no/low code, try baserow.

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                  @luckow said in Does anyone have a more recent, working FORM solution using existing apps on Cloudron?:

                  If you need a flexible solution for complete different purposes and with no/low code, try baserow.

                  How would you do a form with baserow?

                  Conscious tech

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                  • robiR robi

                    @luckow said in Does anyone have a more recent, working FORM solution using existing apps on Cloudron?:

                    If you need a flexible solution for complete different purposes and with no/low code, try baserow.

                    How would you do a form with baserow?

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                    @robi A form in baserow is "only" a view.

                    First: create your table.
                    Second: Go to grid and choose "Add a view: form".

                    660e6a73-d65f-4ee5-a7b9-68bcaec67aca-grafik.png

                    Third: create your form. Click "Share form".

                    https://baserow.nebelcloud.de/form/4468w6soCIG-ycaTV-G-H9cIXrcrWo9fuDgFfYZyaAk

                    Pronouns: he/him | Primary language: German

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                    • luckowL luckow

                      @robi A form in baserow is "only" a view.

                      First: create your table.
                      Second: Go to grid and choose "Add a view: form".

                      660e6a73-d65f-4ee5-a7b9-68bcaec67aca-grafik.png

                      Third: create your form. Click "Share form".

                      https://baserow.nebelcloud.de/form/4468w6soCIG-ycaTV-G-H9cIXrcrWo9fuDgFfYZyaAk

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                      @luckow I just used it! Did you get my info?

                      A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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                      • scookeS scooke

                        @luckow I just used it! Did you get my info?

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                        Pronouns: he/him | Primary language: German

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                        • luckowL luckow

                          @scooke db59b64f-d050-4aa6-9f0c-321637f39eaf-grafik.png

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                          @luckow Cool. I will give this a try actually. EDIT: Oh, 2GB ram... maybe not.

                          A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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                          • luckowL luckow

                            @robi A form in baserow is "only" a view.

                            First: create your table.
                            Second: Go to grid and choose "Add a view: form".

                            660e6a73-d65f-4ee5-a7b9-68bcaec67aca-grafik.png

                            Third: create your form. Click "Share form".

                            https://baserow.nebelcloud.de/form/4468w6soCIG-ycaTV-G-H9cIXrcrWo9fuDgFfYZyaAk

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                            @luckow Ha, this is great, thanks for sharing, you should definitely post my entry 😉

                            Conscious tech

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                            • robiR robi

                              @luckow Ha, this is great, thanks for sharing, you should definitely post my entry 😉

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                              I mostly use Mautic/Wordpress to handle my forms, in my use case Mautic is great because I can fully control my forms, ingest the output in Mautic segments or conect it to N8 for further steps.

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                              • rmdesR rmdes

                                I mostly use Mautic/Wordpress to handle my forms, in my use case Mautic is great because I can fully control my forms, ingest the output in Mautic segments or conect it to N8 for further steps.

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                                @rmdes you have a guide somewhere?

                                Conscious tech

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                                • robiR robi

                                  @rmdes you have a guide somewhere?

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                                  @robi not really, the scenarios I have tested are more trivial than really being used,
                                  like I can get Mautic to send N8 a new subscriber and this in turn is sent via N8 webhook to my matrix dedicated space where I centralize notifications, but this was mainly for testing only I don't really need complex interactions for now.

                                  The way I use Mautic is pretty default, since a few months the UI editor to compose newsletter is operational and enough for my needs, the possibilities Mautic offer in terms of forms are more than enough for me (I don't need conditional stuff for now, not using it in marketing/profit purpose)
                                  forms are super easy to integrate (Js, Iframe etc..) and "transparent" enough to integrate any front-end design in my experience: Mautic + Wordpress is smooth combination.

                                  There is a RSS plugin that interest me for Mautic that I want to explore a bit more, I want to see if we could get a RSS powered "newsletter" automated using Mautic, I want to see how far this RSS plugin can go, integrate images etc.. and allow me to generate a newsletter from another activity : curating information / staring items inside Fresh RSS for example / then use the output of only the stared RSS items to feed a Mautic newsletter about a given topic.

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                                  • rmdesR rmdes

                                    @robi not really, the scenarios I have tested are more trivial than really being used,
                                    like I can get Mautic to send N8 a new subscriber and this in turn is sent via N8 webhook to my matrix dedicated space where I centralize notifications, but this was mainly for testing only I don't really need complex interactions for now.

                                    The way I use Mautic is pretty default, since a few months the UI editor to compose newsletter is operational and enough for my needs, the possibilities Mautic offer in terms of forms are more than enough for me (I don't need conditional stuff for now, not using it in marketing/profit purpose)
                                    forms are super easy to integrate (Js, Iframe etc..) and "transparent" enough to integrate any front-end design in my experience: Mautic + Wordpress is smooth combination.

                                    There is a RSS plugin that interest me for Mautic that I want to explore a bit more, I want to see if we could get a RSS powered "newsletter" automated using Mautic, I want to see how far this RSS plugin can go, integrate images etc.. and allow me to generate a newsletter from another activity : curating information / staring items inside Fresh RSS for example / then use the output of only the stared RSS items to feed a Mautic newsletter about a given topic.

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                                    @rmdes said in Does anyone have a more recent, working FORM solution using existing apps on Cloudron?:

                                    There is a RSS plugin that interest me for Mautic that I want to explore a bit more, I want to see if we could get a RSS powered "newsletter" automated using Mautic, I want to see how far this RSS plugin can go, integrate images etc.. and allow me to generate a newsletter from another activity : curating information / staring items inside Fresh RSS for example / then use the output of only the stared RSS items to feed a Mautic newsletter about a given topic.

                                    I'm really interested in this sort of stuff too.

                                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                    • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                      @rmdes said in Does anyone have a more recent, working FORM solution using existing apps on Cloudron?:

                                      There is a RSS plugin that interest me for Mautic that I want to explore a bit more, I want to see if we could get a RSS powered "newsletter" automated using Mautic, I want to see how far this RSS plugin can go, integrate images etc.. and allow me to generate a newsletter from another activity : curating information / staring items inside Fresh RSS for example / then use the output of only the stared RSS items to feed a Mautic newsletter about a given topic.

                                      I'm really interested in this sort of stuff too.

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                                      I use mautic for contact / newsletter signup. The nice thing is that I can from there generate leads and pick things up with n8n

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                                      • rmdesR rmdes

                                        @robi not really, the scenarios I have tested are more trivial than really being used,
                                        like I can get Mautic to send N8 a new subscriber and this in turn is sent via N8 webhook to my matrix dedicated space where I centralize notifications, but this was mainly for testing only I don't really need complex interactions for now.

                                        The way I use Mautic is pretty default, since a few months the UI editor to compose newsletter is operational and enough for my needs, the possibilities Mautic offer in terms of forms are more than enough for me (I don't need conditional stuff for now, not using it in marketing/profit purpose)
                                        forms are super easy to integrate (Js, Iframe etc..) and "transparent" enough to integrate any front-end design in my experience: Mautic + Wordpress is smooth combination.

                                        There is a RSS plugin that interest me for Mautic that I want to explore a bit more, I want to see if we could get a RSS powered "newsletter" automated using Mautic, I want to see how far this RSS plugin can go, integrate images etc.. and allow me to generate a newsletter from another activity : curating information / staring items inside Fresh RSS for example / then use the output of only the stared RSS items to feed a Mautic newsletter about a given topic.

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                                        @rmdes what do you use to prevent spam signups/messages?

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                                          I spend alot of my time making forms, surveys, ways to gather data.

                                          My suggestions:

                                          • if you want to make 1 contact form (text input fields, maybe some simple selections from combox, radio buttons) and use that data for something I'd suggest Nextcloud & the Forms app. Forms is perfect for the majority of simple form needs. It spits it out to a CSV and also does simple graphing. But it handles other forms needs well (closing forms after X time, max/min selections). There is simple visual modifications.

                                          • if you plan to make a lot of form and more advanced forms (all the above plus branching logic - e.g. if you choose answer 2 skip to form page 5, control access to the form) I'd suggest Limesurvey. But be prepared it is not trivial to use. You can modify it visually.

                                          • if you want to make a simple form for gathering to just gather data and write it to a nicely manipulatable database you, I'd suggest Baserow like others have suggested (e.g. here is a form I created to gather participants names for research. No idea about visual modifications.

                                          I'd recommend trying nextcloud first. The benefit of cloud storage comes for free and it needs (I think) less resources than the other options.

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                                            I've not tried it yet, but ONLYOFFICE now has forms too

                                            https://www.onlyoffice.com/blog/2022/01/7-interesting-facts-about-onlyoffice-forms/

                                            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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