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Does anyone have a more recent, working FORM solution using existing apps on Cloudron?

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      ei8fdb
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      #23

      I spend alot of my time making forms, surveys, ways to gather data.

      My suggestions:

      • if you want to make 1 contact form (text input fields, maybe some simple selections from combox, radio buttons) and use that data for something I'd suggest Nextcloud & the Forms app. Forms is perfect for the majority of simple form needs. It spits it out to a CSV and also does simple graphing. But it handles other forms needs well (closing forms after X time, max/min selections). There is simple visual modifications.

      • if you plan to make a lot of form and more advanced forms (all the above plus branching logic - e.g. if you choose answer 2 skip to form page 5, control access to the form) I'd suggest Limesurvey. But be prepared it is not trivial to use. You can modify it visually.

      • if you want to make a simple form for gathering to just gather data and write it to a nicely manipulatable database you, I'd suggest Baserow like others have suggested (e.g. here is a form I created to gather participants names for research. No idea about visual modifications.

      I'd recommend trying nextcloud first. The benefit of cloud storage comes for free and it needs (I think) less resources than the other options.

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        #24

        I've not tried it yet, but ONLYOFFICE now has forms too

        https://www.onlyoffice.com/blog/2022/01/7-interesting-facts-about-onlyoffice-forms/

        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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        • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

          @rmdes what do you use to prevent spam signups/messages?

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          #25

          @humptydumpty
          Recaptcha for the moment but there is also ways to create native honeyspot hole with Mautic if you don't want to use google.
          https://github.com/KonstantinCodes/mautic-recaptcha
          aea7b9bb-61e3-4a5c-b016-2142c4a8f413-image.png

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          • rmdesR rmdes

            @humptydumpty
            Recaptcha for the moment but there is also ways to create native honeyspot hole with Mautic if you don't want to use google.
            https://github.com/KonstantinCodes/mautic-recaptcha
            aea7b9bb-61e3-4a5c-b016-2142c4a8f413-image.png

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            #26

            @rmdes is there a way to do simple math and check for an answer?

            Conscious tech

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            • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

              @rmdes what do you use to prevent spam signups/messages?

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              #27

              @humptydumpty I've created a lot of forms, and rarely (less than 1%) get spam. I choose to deal with it, when if it becomes a problem. (If the form is going to be live for years, there's a chance spam will become an issue)

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              • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                I've not tried it yet, but ONLYOFFICE now has forms too

                https://www.onlyoffice.com/blog/2022/01/7-interesting-facts-about-onlyoffice-forms/

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                #28

                @jdaviescoates From the look of it it looks like the forms are literally fillable documents. 🤦 Have we gone backwards to the days of fillable PDFs?!

                Thanks for mentioning it. I will try it out. (Tho' I'm not holding my breath!)

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                • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

                  @rmdes what do you use to prevent spam signups/messages?

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                  @humptydumpty said in Does anyone have a more recent, working FORM solution using existing apps on Cloudron?:

                  @rmdes what do you use to prevent spam signups/messages?

                  I used to use the google captcha but would still get lots of spam. Now I'm just using a field with a condition where I make people solve a simple math question like "what is 6+1?"

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                  • andreasduerenA andreasdueren

                    @humptydumpty said in Does anyone have a more recent, working FORM solution using existing apps on Cloudron?:

                    @rmdes what do you use to prevent spam signups/messages?

                    I used to use the google captcha but would still get lots of spam. Now I'm just using a field with a condition where I make people solve a simple math question like "what is 6+1?"

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                    @andreasdueren I've tried math, honeypots, captcha's, black magic, incantations, prayers, and pleading, and I still get spammed on my Wordpress forms. I've even tossed the form inside a pop-up and that didn't deter them 😥.

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                    • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

                      @andreasdueren I've tried math, honeypots, captcha's, black magic, incantations, prayers, and pleading, and I still get spammed on my Wordpress forms. I've even tossed the form inside a pop-up and that didn't deter them 😥.

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                      @humptydumpty Do you need it to be a wordpress form? I'm using the javascript implementation via mautic and that already excludes everyone who doesn't have Javascript activated

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                      • andreasduerenA andreasdueren

                        @humptydumpty Do you need it to be a wordpress form? I'm using the javascript implementation via mautic and that already excludes everyone who doesn't have Javascript activated

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                        #32

                        @andreasdueren No, it doesn't have to be. The websites are using Wordpress so it was easy to just use of the popular form plugins like Contact Form 7, etc.. I don't mind redirecting users off-site if it means NO SPAM 🙂

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                        • andreasduerenA andreasdueren

                          @humptydumpty Do you need it to be a wordpress form? I'm using the javascript implementation via mautic and that already excludes everyone who doesn't have Javascript activated

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                          @andreasdueren said in Does anyone have a more recent, working FORM solution using existing apps on Cloudron?:

                          I'm using the javascript implementation via mautic and that already excludes everyone who doesn't have Javascript activated

                          Can you jot down how to set that up in a separate thread?

                          Conscious tech

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                          • robiR robi

                            @andreasdueren said in Does anyone have a more recent, working FORM solution using existing apps on Cloudron?:

                            I'm using the javascript implementation via mautic and that already excludes everyone who doesn't have Javascript activated

                            Can you jot down how to set that up in a separate thread?

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                            @robi Sure, however not immediately, one of these days should work. Where should I post it?

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                            • andreasduerenA andreasdueren

                              @robi Sure, however not immediately, one of these days should work. Where should I post it?

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                              @andreasdueren good question, the Mautic topic is relevant as is any web hosting app, like Wordpress and Surfer.

                              Perhaps house it in the Mautic section of the forum and mention the rest in the post so it can be found by any of those means. 😄

                              Conscious tech

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