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How on Earth do you get Ghost Memberships and Newsletters working with Cloudron

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  • jdaviescoatesJ Offline
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    #1

    I've tried to do it so many times, but it never works.

    There are various threads on here about this but they are all out of date (both Cloudron and Ghost have changed since) so I'm not even going to link to them.

    @staff I'd really love support on this as it's driving me mad!

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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    • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

      I've tried to do it so many times, but it never works.

      There are various threads on here about this but they are all out of date (both Cloudron and Ghost have changed since) so I'm not even going to link to them.

      @staff I'd really love support on this as it's driving me mad!

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      BrutalBirdie
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      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      @jdaviescoates
      Just to clear this out of the way, you did follow the steps listed in the docs right?
      https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/ghost/

      With mailgun and everything?

      Like my work? Consider donating a drink. Cheers!

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        #3

        https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/ghost/#email has the tricky information to setup email in ghost. Note that mailgun is required, no way around it.

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          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          @girish @BrutalBirdie yeah, I've done all that loads of times and it doesn't work. That's why it's driving me mad.

          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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          • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

            @girish @BrutalBirdie yeah, I've done all that loads of times and it doesn't work. That's why it's driving me mad.

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            @jdaviescoates If you can start from scratch and put your notes here, let's try to figure where the docs are lacking.

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              @girish sure, just before writing the above post I just tried to do it all again, just to be sure.

              I installed a new instance of Ghost at:

              https://ghost.ud.coop/

              I've created newsletter@ud.coop

              Screenshot from 2022-05-17 17-27-30.png

              I've enabled masquerading :

              Screenshot from 2022-05-17 17-31-05.png

              and confirmed it in Ghost at

              Settings -> Email newsletter -> Newsletter -> Customize -> Email addresses (note this is a little different than current Cloudron docs)

              Screenshot from 2022-05-17 17-29-14.png

              I've signed-up to Mailgun and set-up the required DNS, got my private API key and pasted in the relevant box in Ghost:

              Screenshot from 2022-05-17 17-34-48.png

              Then, if you try to subscribe:
              Screenshot from 2022-05-17 17-36-03.png

              All the email seem to actually be working (I added myself as a member via the Ghost Dashboard then Members, and then created a post and it arrive fine).

              But no one can actually subscribe.

              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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              • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                @girish sure, just before writing the above post I just tried to do it all again, just to be sure.

                I installed a new instance of Ghost at:

                https://ghost.ud.coop/

                I've created newsletter@ud.coop

                Screenshot from 2022-05-17 17-27-30.png

                I've enabled masquerading :

                Screenshot from 2022-05-17 17-31-05.png

                and confirmed it in Ghost at

                Settings -> Email newsletter -> Newsletter -> Customize -> Email addresses (note this is a little different than current Cloudron docs)

                Screenshot from 2022-05-17 17-29-14.png

                I've signed-up to Mailgun and set-up the required DNS, got my private API key and pasted in the relevant box in Ghost:

                Screenshot from 2022-05-17 17-34-48.png

                Then, if you try to subscribe:
                Screenshot from 2022-05-17 17-36-03.png

                All the email seem to actually be working (I added myself as a member via the Ghost Dashboard then Members, and then created a post and it arrive fine).

                But no one can actually subscribe.

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                jdaviescoates
                wrote on last edited by jdaviescoates
                #7

                Now reading this:

                https://forum.ghost.org/t/failed-to-sign-up-please-try-again/20942/6

                Looks like perhaps we need to edit an config file...but I can't find anything related ‘secureConnection’ in the file manager.

                Perhaps it's port issue?

                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                  @girish sure, just before writing the above post I just tried to do it all again, just to be sure.

                  I installed a new instance of Ghost at:

                  https://ghost.ud.coop/

                  I've created newsletter@ud.coop

                  Screenshot from 2022-05-17 17-27-30.png

                  I've enabled masquerading :

                  Screenshot from 2022-05-17 17-31-05.png

                  and confirmed it in Ghost at

                  Settings -> Email newsletter -> Newsletter -> Customize -> Email addresses (note this is a little different than current Cloudron docs)

                  Screenshot from 2022-05-17 17-29-14.png

                  I've signed-up to Mailgun and set-up the required DNS, got my private API key and pasted in the relevant box in Ghost:

                  Screenshot from 2022-05-17 17-34-48.png

                  Then, if you try to subscribe:
                  Screenshot from 2022-05-17 17-36-03.png

                  All the email seem to actually be working (I added myself as a member via the Ghost Dashboard then Members, and then created a post and it arrive fine).

                  But no one can actually subscribe.

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                  girish
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                  wrote on last edited by girish
                  #8

                  @jdaviescoates Did you also click on the confirmation email (it is sent to your inbox - newsletter@ud.coop) ? Without this, the email address doesn't actually change inside Ghost.

                  Also, the mailgun stuff, iirc, is not actually used other than to send the newsletters. i.e it is not used when a member subscribes.

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                  • girishG girish

                    @jdaviescoates Did you also click on the confirmation email (it is sent to your inbox - newsletter@ud.coop) ? Without this, the email address doesn't actually change inside Ghost.

                    Also, the mailgun stuff, iirc, is not actually used other than to send the newsletters. i.e it is not used when a member subscribes.

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                    @girish yes, I did.

                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                    • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                      @girish yes, I did.

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                      girish
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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      @jdaviescoates OK, so, when a user subscribes, do you see anything in the app logs? IIRC, it displays some emails errors in the ghost logs.

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                      • girishG girish

                        @jdaviescoates Did you also click on the confirmation email (it is sent to your inbox - newsletter@ud.coop) ? Without this, the email address doesn't actually change inside Ghost.

                        Also, the mailgun stuff, iirc, is not actually used other than to send the newsletters. i.e it is not used when a member subscribes.

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        @girish said in How on Earth do you get Ghost Memberships and Newsletters working with Cloudron:

                        Also, the mailgun stuff, iirc, is not actually used other than to send the newsletters. i.e it is not used when a member subscribes.

                        Yes, I know.

                        But that doesn't help me resolve why no one can subscribe.

                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                        • girishG girish

                          @jdaviescoates OK, so, when a user subscribes, do you see anything in the app logs? IIRC, it displays some emails errors in the ghost logs.

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                          jdaviescoates
                          wrote on last edited by jdaviescoates
                          #12

                          @girish said in How on Earth do you get Ghost Memberships and Newsletters working with Cloudron:

                          @jdaviescoates OK, so, when a user subscribes, do you see anything in the app logs? IIRC, it displays some emails errors in the ghost logs.

                          Aha:

                          May 17 17:55:23 Error: Mail command failed: 550 Authenticated user ghost.app@ud.coop cannot send mail as noreply@ghost.ud.coop
                          

                          But that's confusing as masquerading is enabled. But perhaps it's not enabled for the ghost. subdomain or something?

                          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                          • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                            @girish said in How on Earth do you get Ghost Memberships and Newsletters working with Cloudron:

                            @jdaviescoates OK, so, when a user subscribes, do you see anything in the app logs? IIRC, it displays some emails errors in the ghost logs.

                            Aha:

                            May 17 17:55:23 Error: Mail command failed: 550 Authenticated user ghost.app@ud.coop cannot send mail as noreply@ghost.ud.coop
                            

                            But that's confusing as masquerading is enabled. But perhaps it's not enabled for the ghost. subdomain or something?

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                            wrote on last edited by
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                            @jdaviescoates aha!

                            From the docs:

                                Support email address - defaults to noreply@app.example.com
                              ...
                            When trying to change the above addresses, to say support@example.com, Ghost will send a confirmation mail from noreply@example.com to support@example.com
                            

                            The noreply address subtly changed (the second references does not have @app.example,com) ! Checking, why...

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                            • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                              @girish said in How on Earth do you get Ghost Memberships and Newsletters working with Cloudron:

                              @jdaviescoates OK, so, when a user subscribes, do you see anything in the app logs? IIRC, it displays some emails errors in the ghost logs.

                              Aha:

                              May 17 17:55:23 Error: Mail command failed: 550 Authenticated user ghost.app@ud.coop cannot send mail as noreply@ghost.ud.coop
                              

                              But that's confusing as masquerading is enabled. But perhaps it's not enabled for the ghost. subdomain or something?

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                              jdaviescoates
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              @jdaviescoates said in How on Earth do you get Ghost Memberships and Newsletters working with Cloudron:

                              But that's confusing as masquerading is enabled. But perhaps it's not enabled for the ghost. subdomain or something?

                              OK, so I went and added ghost.ud.coop as a domain in domains and then enabled maquerading and it works! FINALLY!

                              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                              • girishG girish

                                @jdaviescoates aha!

                                From the docs:

                                    Support email address - defaults to noreply@app.example.com
                                  ...
                                When trying to change the above addresses, to say support@example.com, Ghost will send a confirmation mail from noreply@example.com to support@example.com
                                

                                The noreply address subtly changed (the second references does not have @app.example,com) ! Checking, why...

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                                @girish said in How on Earth do you get Ghost Memberships and Newsletters working with Cloudron:

                                The noreply address subtly changed (the second references does not have @app.example,com) ! Checking, why...

                                I think it was just because I'm using a subdomain.

                                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                  @girish said in How on Earth do you get Ghost Memberships and Newsletters working with Cloudron:

                                  The noreply address subtly changed (the second references does not have @app.example,com) ! Checking, why...

                                  I think it was just because I'm using a subdomain.

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                                  girish
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                                  wrote on last edited by
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                                  @jdaviescoates thanks, updating the docs. They keep changing this email address stuff every 3 versions 😕

                                  It seems support address is also so hidden. Took me 15 minutes to find it! It's here /ghost/#/settings/members?showPortalSettings=true

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                                  • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                    @jdaviescoates said in How on Earth do you get Ghost Memberships and Newsletters working with Cloudron:

                                    But that's confusing as masquerading is enabled. But perhaps it's not enabled for the ghost. subdomain or something?

                                    OK, so I went and added ghost.ud.coop as a domain in domains and then enabled maquerading and it works! FINALLY!

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                                    @jdaviescoates said in How on Earth do you get Ghost Memberships and Newsletters working with Cloudron:

                                    OK, so I went and added ghost.ud.coop as a domain in domains and then enabled maquerading and it works! FINALLY!

                                    But that seems like quite a few hoops to have to jump through.

                                    Could we make masquerading work across subdomains by default too @girish ? Or change something in the app package so that this extra step of adding another subdomain domain isn't needed?

                                    If not, I guess something about it needs to be added to the docs.

                                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                    • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                      @jdaviescoates said in How on Earth do you get Ghost Memberships and Newsletters working with Cloudron:

                                      OK, so I went and added ghost.ud.coop as a domain in domains and then enabled maquerading and it works! FINALLY!

                                      But that seems like quite a few hoops to have to jump through.

                                      Could we make masquerading work across subdomains by default too @girish ? Or change something in the app package so that this extra step of adding another subdomain domain isn't needed?

                                      If not, I guess something about it needs to be added to the docs.

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                                      wrote on last edited by girish
                                      #18

                                      @jdaviescoates It seems that subdomain thing is hardcoded in the code (i.e the default email addresses don't come from the database), so looks like we have to make the email server allow sending subdomains as you suggested.

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                                      • girishG girish

                                        @jdaviescoates It seems that subdomain thing is hardcoded in the code (i.e the default email addresses don't come from the database), so looks like we have to make the email server allow sending subdomains as you suggested.

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                                        @girish said in How on Earth do you get Ghost Memberships and Newsletters working with Cloudron:

                                        @jdaviescoates It seems that subdomain thing is hardcoded in the code (i.e the default email addresses don't come from the database), so looks like we have to make the email server allow sending subdomains as you suggested.

                                        Unless, if I'd already changed the support address (I hadn't in this instance), then perhaps it wouldn't have still tried to send via noreply@ghost.ud.coop at all and I wouldn't've needed to get masqureading working on the subdomain 🤔

                                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                        • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                          @girish said in How on Earth do you get Ghost Memberships and Newsletters working with Cloudron:

                                          @jdaviescoates It seems that subdomain thing is hardcoded in the code (i.e the default email addresses don't come from the database), so looks like we have to make the email server allow sending subdomains as you suggested.

                                          Unless, if I'd already changed the support address (I hadn't in this instance), then perhaps it wouldn't have still tried to send via noreply@ghost.ud.coop at all and I wouldn't've needed to get masqureading working on the subdomain 🤔

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                                          @jdaviescoates I just tested a fresh install now. What I found is, it's not needed to add the subdomain at all.

                                          If you configure the email address (support or the newsletter) to blah@some.domain.com , then Ghost is hardcoded to send emails from noreply@some.domain.com to blah@some.domain.com . This means that if you change the email address to newsletter@example.com , it will only try to send email as noreply@email.com .

                                          I am not sure why it tried to send email from a subdomain in your case. Do you think you might have tried to put in a subdomain email address ?

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