Is Searx actually working for everyone on Cloudron?

[marcusquinn]

My go-to test search phrase is "hello". And I have Google & Bing enabled as options, but results are very sparse:

Whereas Qwant.com by comparison gets a lot more:

And searx.org similarly comes back with a lot more too:

Searx on Cloudron last updated 6 months ago - am I missing something?

[jdaviescoates]

@marcusquinn I find it works great some times and then just doesn't work at others, but I've never really investigated it any further than that (and the working/ not working status changes without any action on my part).

I tend to use my Searx for a while until it stops working, then switch to DuckDuckGo or something for a while and then I'll forget about Searx for a while and then get reminded of it again (like right now) and change back to it for a while until it stops working again... although I've just tested mine and it's currently not working so wont be making the switch again just yet.

It's a shame because when it works it works great.

Can't help wondering if we'd have more luck with SearXNG

https://docs.searxng.org/
https://github.com/searxng/searxng
https://github.com/searxng/searxng-docker

[marcusquinn]

@jdaviescoates It's strange because searx.org works nicely. Maybe just use that and forget about self-hosted for this one?

Of all the search engines I've tried, qwant.com is my daily-driver and has been for some time. There's quirks and things I don't like, and ublockorigin.com is essential on all browsers for removing ads, but of all the meta search engines, I find Qwant has all the results I need, and the Maps is perhaps the better of all the alternatives.

[ruihildt]

Not Searx related, but I encourage you all to test Kagi.

It's a paid search engine, business model based only on subscription, promising privacy first and customer focused, as they have no other incentive than making their users happy.

It's been my default search engine for 3 months and I'm very happy with the results, much less spammy results, favors websites with less tracking/ads, focus partly on smaller websites/blogs and some very nice customization and details.

I have no financial incentive, just very happy about spending 10$/month on it.

[jdaviescoates]

@marcusquinn said in Is Searx actually working for everyone on Cloudron?:

@jdaviescoates It's strange because searx.org works nicely.

My Cloudron-hosted searx sometimes works nicely too. But then just doesn't. I may try installing on a few different hosts to see if it's an IP thing...

[marcusquinn]

@ruihildt I do like the look and idea of Kagi, and the Orion Browser Fine for personal, would be a bit of a conversation to have to roll out to 100 business users, most of which will just ignore it and change their home page to Google as if it were 2002 and do no evil was obviously not a binding promise.

[scooke]

@ruihildt Hi, I'm signing up at Kagi as I type, and they ask how I heard about them. Do you mind if I give them the url to your post here? Otherwise I'm just going to say, "Cloudron forums".

[ruihildt]

@scooke Feel free to link here. It's public.

[freediver]

@ruihildt Thanks for the mention! (Kagi Founder here)

@scooke We actually read 'where did you find us' , thanks for referencing it

@marcusquinn We are working on a team plan right now. It will be usage based (not by user, you will be able to add unlimited users to your team, and pay only for what they use - and users searching are usually users being productive).

[nebulon]

@freediver wow nice! I am also recently a very happy kagi customer. I was looking for a solid search engine which I can plainly pay for, for a long time, so thanks for all the hard work!

[marcusquinn]

@freediver Amazing - all fans here for what you're doing! Kagi Maps (beta) looks fantastic!

[marcusquinn]

Tip for anyone wanting to add a new search engine to Firefox. Right-click in the address bar in the space after the address...