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NetBird - FOSS noconf Mesh VPN using Wireguard, alternative to ZeroTier, Tailscale, OmniEdge, Netmaker etc

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  • timconsidineT timconsidine

    "Cloudron does not currently expose the kind of per-app TLS passthrough on 443 that NetBird Reverse Proxy needs."

    It's a cool feature, though, so I'm going to have a think about a workaround.

    EDIT #1 : The only Netbird-like alternative supporting this Reverse Proxy functionality is Tunnet, according to my research. But it is much younger than Netbird.

    EDIT #2 : Because Cloudron platform (not base image) owns 443, unless/until there is more traffic pass-through from the platform nginx, I don't think Netbird Reverse Proxy is deliverable on Cloudron. Don't hold your breathe !

    robiR
    robiR
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    #41

    @timconsidine maybe something the team can address for v10+.

    Conscious tech

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    • robiR robi

      @timconsidine maybe something the team can address for v10+.

      timconsidineT
      timconsidineT
      timconsidine
      App Dev
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      #42

      @robi I think there is an existing feature request for more TLS passthrough while preserving core platform function. Don't know where it is or whether in mind. More likely a v11, but Christmas is always a nice time for surprise presents 😉

      Indie app dev, huge fan of Cloudron PaaS, scratching my itches : communityapps.appx.uk

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      • marcusquinnM
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        AI's reply. Not tested, but seems good:

        @timconsidine @sponch thanks for investigating and documenting the transport issue.

        I’ve now published v2.0.16, which adopts the dedicated native-client transport model:

        • Dashboard, API and OIDC remain on normal Cloudron HTTPS/443.
        • NetBird management, signal and relay traffic use a dedicated TLS/HTTP2 TCP port.
        • The default external port is 33073, but use whichever TCP port is configured in Cloudron.

        Client example:

        sudo netbird up
        --management-url https://netbird.example.com:33073
        --setup-key YOUR_SETUP_KEY

        The selected TCP port must be reachable through the server firewall. NetBird’s own configurable UDP STUN port is also retained. I did not use Cloudron’s TURN addon because its relay credential model is incompatible with NetBird’s built-in relay.

        Internally, the native listener maps to container port 33074, because current NetBird releases reserve 33073 for their legacy gRPC listener.

        Reverse Proxy clusters are still not included. That feature requires raw TLS passthrough on public port 443, which Cloudron does not currently provide per app. The dedicated client port fixes peer registration but does not remove that separate platform constraint.

        Release: https://github.com/marcusquinn/cloudron-netbird-app/releases/tag/v2.0.16
        Community app: https://ca.cloudron.io/app/netbird

        Local runtime tests passed first-run setup, TLS validation, HTTP/2 negotiation, restart and persistence checks. I still need confirmation from a real Cloudron installation, so please let me know whether a native client now registers successfully.

        Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
        Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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        • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

          AI's reply. Not tested, but seems good:

          @timconsidine @sponch thanks for investigating and documenting the transport issue.

          I’ve now published v2.0.16, which adopts the dedicated native-client transport model:

          • Dashboard, API and OIDC remain on normal Cloudron HTTPS/443.
          • NetBird management, signal and relay traffic use a dedicated TLS/HTTP2 TCP port.
          • The default external port is 33073, but use whichever TCP port is configured in Cloudron.

          Client example:

          sudo netbird up
          --management-url https://netbird.example.com:33073
          --setup-key YOUR_SETUP_KEY

          The selected TCP port must be reachable through the server firewall. NetBird’s own configurable UDP STUN port is also retained. I did not use Cloudron’s TURN addon because its relay credential model is incompatible with NetBird’s built-in relay.

          Internally, the native listener maps to container port 33074, because current NetBird releases reserve 33073 for their legacy gRPC listener.

          Reverse Proxy clusters are still not included. That feature requires raw TLS passthrough on public port 443, which Cloudron does not currently provide per app. The dedicated client port fixes peer registration but does not remove that separate platform constraint.

          Release: https://github.com/marcusquinn/cloudron-netbird-app/releases/tag/v2.0.16
          Community app: https://ca.cloudron.io/app/netbird

          Local runtime tests passed first-run setup, TLS validation, HTTP/2 negotiation, restart and persistence checks. I still need confirmation from a real Cloudron installation, so please let me know whether a native client now registers successfully.

          timconsidineT
          timconsidineT
          timconsidine
          App Dev
          wrote last edited by
          #44

          @marcusquinn thank you !
          Will test tomorrow.

          Indie app dev, huge fan of Cloudron PaaS, scratching my itches : communityapps.appx.uk

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