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Omnivore - open source read-it-later solution

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      From Omnivore blog: «October’s updates newsletter»

      In "What’s Next":

      Improved Self-Hosting- We just merged a patch to remove our elastic search dependency. This will make self-hosting and local development much easier.

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        From Omnivore blog: «October’s updates newsletter»

        In "What’s Next":

        Improved Self-Hosting- We just merged a patch to remove our elastic search dependency. This will make self-hosting and local development much easier.

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        @p44 said in Omnivore - open source read-it-later solution:

        Improved Self-Hosting- We just merged a patch to remove our elastic search dependency. This will make self-hosting and local development much easier.

        Nice, although of course really want want Cloudron to actually have an Elastic Search addon too 😉

        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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          @ctrl I have used the other solution here on Cloudron in the past, but Wallabag is practically unusable in a real use case. See for example the absence of the possibility to underline and manage annotations...

          So I think Omnivore it can be a good compromise to guarantee privacy. Despite this, there is little transparency about who the developers are, where the app is maintained, where the data is stored in the hosted version, and above all they don't respond to any emails....

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            +1 on this

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              +1 on this

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              @klischka 👏

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                I currently moved from Omnivore to Wallabag because Omnivore was not available on Cloudron but I really loved Omnivore UX.

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                  I currently moved from Omnivore to Wallabag because Omnivore was not available on Cloudron but I really loved Omnivore UX.

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                  @MorganGeek It seems that with Wallabag you cannot highlight text and export highlights. Me too I love Omnivore UX... I hope one day can be part of Cloudron App store

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                    Indeed the Omnivore app has an awesome feature for highlights and for hiding our email from newsletters. However it lacks ability to easily export data, and as I care a lot about data portability, I'm migrating all my links to Wallabag. Wallabag has some annotations related issues open for months and years on Github, including this one (more recent) https://github.com/wallabag/wallabag/issues/5484 which seems to be equivalent to what Omnivore brings, but I don't know when such feature could be expected to be released.

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                      Indeed the Omnivore app has an awesome feature for highlights and for hiding our email from newsletters. However it lacks ability to easily export data, and as I care a lot about data portability, I'm migrating all my links to Wallabag. Wallabag has some annotations related issues open for months and years on Github, including this one (more recent) https://github.com/wallabag/wallabag/issues/5484 which seems to be equivalent to what Omnivore brings, but I don't know when such feature could be expected to be released.

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                      @MorganGeek I totally agree with your concerns about Omnivore. Not only those, but also is not really explained who they are, where data (for payed version) is hosted, and also they don't reply to any email (even if they show on their home page a "Call to action" like "Contact us" or similar.

                      About Wallabag, how will you manage highlights. Thank's a lot!

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                        Yeah I confirm I couldn't not reach out to them or at least they forgot to reply 🙂
                        On the other hand Wallabag has so many issues open in their GitHub for many years, and some of their current features are buggy (the export sometimes takes ages, or the app crashes for memory issues), I like both apps but none is exempt of issues.

                        For now I lack a workflow for highlighted content, I guess the best would be to save some pages as markdown in my Obsidian and highlights from there.

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                          Yeah I confirm I couldn't not reach out to them or at least they forgot to reply 🙂
                          On the other hand Wallabag has so many issues open in their GitHub for many years, and some of their current features are buggy (the export sometimes takes ages, or the app crashes for memory issues), I like both apps but none is exempt of issues.

                          For now I lack a workflow for highlighted content, I guess the best would be to save some pages as markdown in my Obsidian and highlights from there.

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                          @MorganGeek said in Omnivore - open source read-it-later solution:

                          For now I lack a workflow for highlighted content, I guess the best would be to save some pages as markdown in my Obsidian and highlights from there.

                          @MorganGeek It could be a good workaround but you evaluate see the impact on the reading flow.

                          Let's see how the development of Omnivore evolves and let's hope 😉

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                            I've been using Omnivore during the last months and it's a really well polished app. I ditched Readwise Reader, which I never quite understood at all and I was not interested in their dummy AI features.

                            But I would LOVE to self-host Omnivore, so today I searched this forum and found this thread 🙂

                            Is any of you actually self hosting it already?

                            PS: I just learned from you that they don't have an export-all feature (!) but the developer said on their Discord you can do it through API, as the Obsidian plugin does:

                            CleanShot 2024-06-10 at 10.37.12@2x.png

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                              @chetbaker hello! 🙂 As you can see, nothing new from this side: the app is still to be self-hosted on Cloudron.

                              I also use Readwise Reader, but it is full of lacking features, and every day it becomes more cluttered than the day before...

                              Also, there is the privacy concern...

                              We have to be patient and wait, hoping that this app will be deployed on Cloudron.

                              Any other solution to make it available on Cloudron? @girish 🙂

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                                @p44 last we checked, there were many holes in the selfhosting solution. It's not entirely selfhostable yet. See https://github.com/omnivore-app/omnivore/issues/25

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                                  @girish so, maybe that they advertise "self hosted mode" only for "self(host)i(e)sh" purposes? who knows....

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                                    @girish Do you think it could be a good idea to write to developers to address all the necessary fixes and demonstrate the ability to be hosted on Cloudron? This could potentially benefit their growth and expand their user base...

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                                      @p44 there's quite a bit of work to be done on the selfhosting front (for them). They rely on many cloud services.

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                                        @girish
                                        Let's see how the project evolves.

                                        It will be interesting to follow future developments and see if they manage to make the platform more independent from third-party cloud services, improving self-hosting capabilities...

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                                          https://blog.omnivore.app/p/omnivore-is-joining-elevenlabs
                                          😕

                                          "Next, all Omnivore users will be able to export their information from the service through November 15 2024, after which all information will be deleted.

                                          Lastly, ElevenLabs is committed to the developer community and the Omnivore codebase will remain 100% open-source for all users. This decision ensures that the broader development community can continue to build upon and improve Omnivore’s technology."

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                                            Oh boy. I just find Wallabag having such an ugly UX

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