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@girish - experiencing same file/dir permission issues in 4.41.0 as we had in 4.40.0

(https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/15892/broken-update-n8n-to-2.36.8/)

Sep 08 07:01:24 ⠙⠹⠸⠼npm error code EACCES
Sep 08 07:01:24 ⠼npm error syscall mkdir
Sep 08 07:01:24 ⠼npm error path /home/cloudron/.npm/_cacache/tmp
Sep 08 07:01:24 ⠼npm error errno EACCES
Sep 08 07:01:24 ⠼npm error
Sep 08 07:01:24 npm error Your cache folder contains root-owned files, due to a bug in previous versions of npm which has since been addressed.
Sep 08 07:01:24 npm error
Sep 08 07:01:24 npm error To permanently fix this problem, please run:
Sep 08 07:01:24 npm error   sudo chown -R 1000:1000 "/home/cloudron/.npm"
Sep 08 07:01:24 ⠼npm notice
Sep 08 07:01:24 npm notice New major version of npm available! 11.17.0 -> 12.0.2
Sep 08 07:01:24 npm notice Changelog: https://github.com/npm/cli/releases/tag/v12.0.2
Sep 08 07:01:24 npm notice To update run: npm install -g npm@12.0.2
Sep 08 07:01:24 npm notice
Sep 08 07:01:24 ⠼npm error Log files were not written due to an error writing to the directory: /home/cloudron/.npm/_logs
Sep 08 07:01:24 npm error You can rerun the command with `--loglevel=verbose` to see the logs in your terminal
Sep 08 07:01:24 ⠼

reverting ro 4.40.1 in the meantime

@girish

Exiting with code 0
Sep 02 08:39:24 => Installing handlebars@4.7.7 jsonata@2.0.2 marked@4.3.0 bwip-js@3.3.0 ajv-formats@2.1.1 odoo-xmlrpc@1.0.8 firebase-admin@11.10.1
Sep 02 08:39:25 ⠙⠹⠸⠼⠴⠦⠧⠇npm error code EACCES
Sep 02 08:39:25 ⠇npm error syscall mkdir
Sep 02 08:39:25 ⠇npm error path /home/cloudron/.npm/_cacache/tmp
Sep 02 08:39:25 ⠇npm error errno EACCES
Sep 02 08:39:25 ⠇npm error
Sep 02 08:39:25 npm error Your cache folder contains root-owned files, due to a bug in
Sep 02 08:39:25 npm error previous versions of npm which has since been addressed.
Sep 02 08:39:25 npm error
Sep 02 08:39:25 npm error To permanently fix this problem, please run:
Sep 02 08:39:25 npm error   sudo chown -R 1000:1000 "/home/cloudron/.npm"
Sep 02 08:39:25 ⠇npm notice
Sep 02 08:39:25 npm notice New minor version of npm available! 11.8.0 -> 11.19.1
Sep 02 08:39:25 npm notice Changelog: https://github.com/npm/cli/releases/tag/v11.19.1
Sep 02 08:39:25 npm notice To update run: npm install -g npm@11.19.1
Sep 02 08:39:25 npm notice
Sep 02 08:39:25 ⠇npm error Log files were not written due to an error writing to the directory: /home/cloudron/.npm/_logs
Sep 02 08:39:25 npm error You can rerun the command with `--loglevel=verbose` to see the logs in your terminal
Sep 02 08:39:25 ⠇
Sep 02 08:39:26 ==> Ensure directories
Sep 02 08:39:26 ==> Setting permissions
Sep 02 08:39:27 => Installing handlebars@4.7.7 jsonata@2.0.2 marked@4.3.0 bwip-js@3.3.0 ajv-formats@2.1.1 odoo-xmlrpc@1.0.8 firebase-admin@11.10.1
Sep 02 08:39:27 ⠙⠹⠸⠼npm error code EACCES
Sep 02 08:39:27 ⠼npm error syscall mkdir
Sep 02 08:39:27 ⠼npm error path /home/cloudron/.npm/_cacache/tmp
Sep 02 08:39:27 ⠼npm error errno EACCES
Sep 02 08:39:27 ⠼npm error
Sep 02 08:39:27 npm error Your cache folder contains root-owned files, due to a bug in
Sep 02 08:39:27 npm error previous versions of npm which has since been addressed.
Sep 02 08:39:27 npm error
Sep 02 08:39:27 npm error To permanently fix this problem, please run:
Sep 02 08:39:27 npm error   sudo chown -R 1000:1000 "/home/cloudron/.npm"
Sep 02 08:39:27 ⠼npm notice
Sep 02 08:39:27 npm notice New minor version of npm available! 11.8.0 -> 11.19.1
Sep 02 08:39:27 npm notice Changelog: https://github.com/npm/cli/releases/tag/v11.19.1
Sep 02 08:39:27 npm notice To update run: npm install -g npm@11.19.1
Sep 02 08:39:27 npm notice
Sep 02 08:39:27 ⠼npm error Log files were not written due to an error writing to the directory: /home/cloudron/.npm/_logs
Sep 02 08:39:27 npm error You can rerun the command with `--loglevel=verbose` to see the logs in your terminal
Sep 02 08:39:27 ⠼
Sep 02 08:39:28 ==> Ensure directories
Sep 02 08:39:28 ==> Setting permissions
Sep 02 08:39:29 => Installing handlebars@4.7.7 jsonata@2.0.2 marked@4.3.0 bwip-js@3.3.0 ajv-formats@2.1.1 odoo-xmlrpc@1.0.8 firebase-admin@11.10.1
Sep 02 08:39:29 ⠙⠹⠸⠼npm error code EACCES
Sep 02 08:39:29 ⠼npm error syscall mkdir
Sep 02 08:39:29 ⠼npm error path /home/cloudron/.npm/_cacache/tmp
Sep 02 08:39:29 ⠼npm error errno EACCES
Sep 02 08:39:29 ⠼npm error
Sep 02 08:39:29 npm error Your cache folder contains root-owned files, due to a bug in
Sep 02 08:39:29 npm error previous versions of npm which has since been addressed.
Sep 02 08:39:29 npm error
Sep 02 08:39:29 npm error To permanently fix this problem, please run:
Sep 02 08:39:29 npm error   sudo chown -R 1000:1000 "/home/cloudron/.npm"
Sep 02 08:39:29 ⠼npm notice
Sep 02 08:39:29 npm notice New minor version of npm available! 11.8.0 -> 11.19.1
Sep 02 08:39:29 npm notice Changelog: https://github.com/npm/cli/releases/tag/v11.19.1
Sep 02 08:39:29 npm notice To update run: npm install -g npm@11.19.1
Sep 02 08:39:29 npm notice
Sep 02 08:39:29 ⠼npm error Log files were not written due to an error writing to the directory: /home/cloudron/.npm/_logs
Sep 02 08:39:29 npm error You can rerun the command with `--loglevel=verbose` to see the logs in your terminal
Sep 02 08:39:29 ⠼
Sep 02 08:39:30 ==> Ensure directories
Sep 02 08:39:30 ==> Setting permissions
Sep 02 08:39:31 => Healthcheck error: Error: connect ECONNREFUSED 172.18.17.42:5678
Sep 02 08:39:31 => Installing handlebars@4.7.7 jsonata@2.0.2 marked@4.3.0 bwip-js@3.3.0 ajv-formats@2.1.1 odoo-xmlrpc@1.0.8 firebase-admin@11.10.1
Sep 02 08:39:32 ⠙⠹⠸⠼npm error code EACCES
Sep 02 08:39:32 ⠼npm error syscall mkdir
Sep 02 08:39:32 ⠼npm error path /home/cloudron/.npm/_cacache/tmp
Sep 02 08:39:32 ⠼npm error errno EACCES
Sep 02 08:39:32 ⠼npm error
Sep 02 08:39:32 npm error Your cache folder contains root-owned files, due to a bug in
Sep 02 08:39:32 npm error previous versions of npm which has since been addressed.
Sep 02 08:39:32 npm error
Sep 02 08:39:32 npm error To permanently fix this problem, please run:
Sep 02 08:39:32 npm error   sudo chown -R 1000:1000 "/home/cloudron/.npm"
Sep 02 08:39:32 ⠼npm notice
Sep 02 08:39:32 npm notice New minor version of npm available! 11.8.0 -> 11.19.1
Sep 02 08:39:32 npm notice Changelog: https://github.com/npm/cli/releases/tag/v11.19.1
Sep 02 08:39:32 npm notice To update run: npm install -g npm@11.19.1
Sep 02 08:39:32 npm notice
Sep 02 08:39:32 ⠼npm error Log files were not written due to an error writing to the directory: /home/cloudron/.npm/_logs
Sep 02 08:39:32 npm error You can rerun the command with `--loglevel=verbose` to see the logs in your terminal
Sep 02 08:39:32 ⠼
Sep 02 08:39:33 ==> Ensure directories
Sep 02 08:39:33 ==> Setting permissions
Sep 02 08:39:33 => Installing handlebars@4.7.7 jsonata@2.0.2 marked@4.3.0 bwip-js@3.3.0 ajv-formats@2.1.1 odoo-xmlrpc@1.0.8 firebase-admin@11.10.1
Sep 02 08:39:34 ⠙⠹⠸⠼npm error code EACCES
Sep 02 08:39:34 ⠼npm error syscall mkdir
Sep 02 08:39:34 ⠼npm error path /home/cloudron/.npm/_cacache/tmp
Sep 02 08:39:34 ⠼npm error errno EACCES
Sep 02 08:39:34 ⠼npm error
Sep 02 08:39:34 npm error Your cache folder contains root-owned files, due to a bug in
Sep 02 08:39:34 npm error previous versions of npm which has since been addressed.
Sep 02 08:39:34 npm error
Sep 02 08:39:34 npm error To permanently fix this problem, please run:
Sep 02 08:39:34 npm error   sudo chown -R 1000:1000 "/home/cloudron/.npm"
Sep 02 08:39:34 ⠼npm notice
Sep 02 08:39:34 npm notice New minor version of npm available! 11.8.0 -> 11.19.1
Sep 02 08:39:34 npm notice Changelog: https://github.com/npm/cli/releases/tag/v11.19.1
Sep 02 08:39:34 npm notice To update run: npm install -g npm@11.19.1
Sep 02 08:39:34 npm notice
Sep 02 08:39:34 ⠼npm error Log files were not written due to an error writing to the directory: /home/cloudron/.npm/_logs
Sep 02 08:39:34 npm error You can rerun the command with `--loglevel=verbose` to see the logs in your terminal
Sep 02 08:39:34 ⠼
Sep 02 08:39:36 ==> Ensure directories
Sep 02 08:39:36 ==> Setting permissions
Sep 02 08:39:37 => Installing handlebars@4.7.7 jsonata@2.0.2 marked@4.3.0 bwip-js@3.3.0 ajv-formats@2.1.1 odoo-xmlrpc@1.0.8 firebase-admin@11.10.1
Sep 02 08:39:37 ⠙⠹⠸⠼npm error code EACCES
Sep 02 08:39:37 ⠼npm error syscall mkdir
Sep 02 08:39:37 ⠼npm error path /home/cloudron/.npm/_cacache/tmp
Sep 02 08:39:37 ⠼npm error errno EACCES
Sep 02 08:39:37 ⠼npm error
Sep 02 08:39:37 npm error Your cache folder contains root-owned files, due to a bug in
Sep 02 08:39:37 npm error previous versions of npm which has since been addressed.
Sep 02 08:39:37 npm error
Sep 02 08:39:37 npm error To permanently fix this problem, please run:
Sep 02 08:39:37 npm error   sudo chown -R 1000:1000 "/home/cloudron/.npm"
Sep 02 08:39:37 ⠼npm notice
Sep 02 08:39:37 npm notice New minor version of npm available! 11.8.0 -> 11.19.1
Sep 02 08:39:37 npm notice Changelog: https://github.com/npm/cli/releases/tag/v11.19.1
Sep 02 08:39:37 npm notice To update run: npm install -g npm@11.19.1
Sep 02 08:39:37 npm notice
Sep 02 08:39:37 ⠼npm error Log files were not written due to an error writing to the directory: /home/cloudron/.npm/_logs
Sep 02 08:39:37 npm error You can rerun the command with `--loglevel=verbose` to see the logs in your terminal
Sep 02 08:39:38 ⠼
Sep 02 08:39:41 ==> Ensure directories
Sep 02 08:39:41 ==> Setting permissions
Sep 02 08:39:42 => Healthcheck error: Error: connect ECONNREFUSED 172.18.17.42:5678
Sep 02 08:39:42 => Installing handlebars@4.7.7 jsonata@2.0.2 marked@4.3.0 bwip-js@3.3.0 ajv-formats@2.1.1 odoo-xmlrpc@1.0.8 firebase-admin@11.10.1
Sep 02 08:39:42 ⠙⠹⠸⠼npm error code EACCES
Sep 02 08:39:42 ⠼npm error syscall mkdir
Sep 02 08:39:42 ⠼npm error path /home/cloudron/.npm/_cacache/tmp
Sep 02 08:39:42 ⠼npm error errno EACCES
Sep 02 08:39:42 ⠼npm error
Sep 02 08:39:42 npm error Your cache folder contains root-owned files, due to a bug in
Sep 02 08:39:42 npm error previous versions of npm which has since been addressed.
Sep 02 08:39:42 npm error
Sep 02 08:39:42 npm error To permanently fix this problem, please run:
Sep 02 08:39:42 npm error   sudo chown -R 1000:1000 "/home/cloudron/.npm"
Sep 02 08:39:42 ⠼npm notice
Sep 02 08:39:42 npm notice New minor version of npm available! 11.8.0 -> 11.19.1
Sep 02 08:39:42 npm notice Changelog: https://github.com/npm/cli/releases/tag/v11.19.1
Sep 02 08:39:42 npm notice To update run: npm install -g npm@11.19.1
Sep 02 08:39:42 npm notice
Sep 02 08:39:42 ⠼npm error Log files were not written due to an error writing to the directory: /home/cloudron/.npm/_logs
Sep 02 08:39:42 npm error You can rerun the command with `--loglevel=verbose` to see the logs in your terminal
Sep 02 08:39:43 ⠼
Sep 02 08:39:49 ==> Ensure directories
Sep 02 08:39:49 ==> Setting permissions
Sep 02 08:39:50 => Healthcheck error: Error: connect ECONNREFUSED 172.18.17.42:5678
Sep 02 08:39:50 => Installing handlebars@4.7.7 jsonata@2.0.2 marked@4.3.0 bwip-js@3.3.0 ajv-formats@2.1.1 odoo-xmlrpc@1.0.8 firebase-admin@11.10.1
Sep 02 08:39:51 ⠙⠹⠸⠼npm error code EACCES
Sep 02 08:39:51 ⠼npm error syscall mkdir
Sep 02 08:39:51 ⠼npm error path /home/cloudron/.npm/_cacache/tmp
Sep 02 08:39:51 ⠼npm error errno EACCES
Sep 02 08:39:51 ⠼npm error
Sep 02 08:39:51 npm error Your cache folder contains root-owned files, due to a bug in
Sep 02 08:39:51 npm error previous versions of npm which has since been addressed.
Sep 02 08:39:51 npm error
Sep 02 08:39:51 npm error To permanently fix this problem, please run:
Sep 02 08:39:51 npm error   sudo chown -R 1000:1000 "/home/cloudron/.npm"
Sep 02 08:39:51 ⠼npm notice
Sep 02 08:39:51 npm notice New minor version of npm available! 11.8.0 -> 11.19.1
Sep 02 08:39:51 npm notice Changelog: https://github.com/npm/cli/releases/tag/v11.19.1
Sep 02 08:39:51 npm notice To update run: npm install -g npm@11.19.1
Sep 02 08:39:51 npm notice
Sep 02 08:39:51 ⠼npm error Log files were not written due to an error writing to the directory: /home/cloudron/.npm/_logs
Sep 02 08:39:51 npm error You can rerun the command with `--loglevel=verbose` to see the logs in your terminal

The app is stuck in a permanent restart loop. On every boot, the EXTRA_NODE_MODULES install step fails with:

npm error code EACCES
npm error syscall mkdir
npm error path /home/cloudron/.npm/_cacache/tmp
npm error Your cache folder contains root-owned files

Because that install never completes, n8n never binds to port 5678, so the healthcheck fails with ECONNREFUSED/EHOSTUNREACH and the container restarts, repeating the same failure every 15 to 20 seconds.

So the directory can't be fixed from outside the app either. This looks like the same class of issue reported in older threads about handlebars and community node installs, where /home/cloudron/.npm sits on a read-only filesystem and npm's default cache path can't be written to.

Packages configured: handlebars, jsonata, marked, bwip-js, ajv-formats, odoo-xmlrpc, firebase-admin.

Is there a supported writable cache path we should be pointing EXTRA_NODE_MODULES at, or is this something that needs a package fix?

//Steph

Hello, version 0.9.2 is available. It fixes a critical bug present in version 0.9.1.
It would be great if the packaging for this version were prioritised as the current one is quite broken.

Same on my side - frontend loads, but I get a 500 in the console on the ../api/models endpoint and it stalls

@andreasdueren said in S3 Compatible Storage:

@Divemasterza Which provider is this? R2 doesn't work, seemingly because it doesn't support the S3 POST Object operation

Edit:

Got Hetzner working with these Settings:

S3_BUCKET_NAME=redacted
S3_FORCE_PATH_STYLE=1
S3_ENDPOINT_URL=https://fsn1.your-objectstorage.com
S3_REGION=fsn1
S3_ACCESS_KEY=redacted
S3_SECRET_KEY=redacted

Glad it sorted, for the info, mine was a S3 compatible supplier

Ok, I finally resolved it on my side, and it was caused by the CORS policy on the S3 buckets. The policies were too restrictive, and obviously it wasn't working.

@msbt said in Issue with Read/Write node:

export N8N_RESTRICT_FILE_ACCESS_TO="/app/data"

This solves it Thank you

Latest: version 2.6.3

Since the last update, a couple of my flows broke. All are related to the Read/Write file to Disk node

in the past, we could read and write to /app/data/storage, but this is no longer working.
The error shown is that the only writeable path is /home/cloudron/.n8n-files, which obviously does not exist.

Could be related to https://github.com/n8n-io/n8n/pull/24185

Potentially the Task Runner separation from the original container could be a BC to the current Cloudron Packaging?

So turns out that potentially the issue is disk space.
we ran the process again without changing anything - same result
we clean up and enable at least 40 GB of space and relaunched the update process = successful update

suggestions: better pre-update space check and verbose messaging about needed space for update

@girish said in Update from 8.3.2 to 9.0.x fails:

@Divemasterza can you also check /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/updater/ (there is a log file there) OR journalctl -u cloudron-updater ? (the log location depends on the ubuntu version)

No logs there

@girish said in Update from 8.3.2 to 9.0.x fails:

Can you see if apt-install -y --fix-missing is working ok?

I am sure you meant apt-get install -f -y
all good on that side

@girish said in Update from 8.3.2 to 9.0.x fails:

dpkg --force-confold --configure -a

No output

So the log reflect the same data (quite a large log)

First part of the logo is the backup part - Successful

2025-11-13T21:54:51.507Z box:backupupload upload completed. error: null
2025-11-13T21:54:51.507Z box:backuptask runBackupUpload: result - {"result":""}
2025-11-13T21:54:51.529Z box:backuptask uploadBoxSnapshot: took 2.253 seconds
2025-11-13T21:54:51.532Z box:backuptask rotateBoxBackup: rotating to id 2025-11-13-203330-497/box_v8.3.2

The comes the grabbing of the release and locks

2025-11-13T21:54:51.879Z box:locks acquire: update
2025-11-13T21:54:51.880Z box:tasks update 7769: {"percent":70,"message":"Installing update"}
2025-11-13T21:54:51.880Z box:updater Updating box with https://releases.cloudron.io/box-bfe9ee457d-bfe9ee457d-9.0.8.tar.gz
2025-11-13T21:54:51.880Z box:shell updater /usr/bin/sudo -S /home/yellowtent/box/src/scripts/update.sh /tmp/box-4248070419 /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/tasks/7769.log
2025-11-13T21:54:51.914Z box:shell 2025-11-13T21:54:51 ==> update: updating Cloudron with /tmp/box-4248070419
2025-11-13T21:54:51.947Z box:shell Running as unit: cloudron-updater.service; invocation ID: 53a06dc92d404749a38995ac6f589301
2025-11-13T21:54:51.956Z box:shell 2025-11-13T21:54:51 ==> update: cloudron-updater is still active. will check in 5 seconds
2025-11-13T21:54:52 ==> installer: Updating from 8.3.2 to 9.0.8
/usr/bin/docker

then for roughly 10 minutes

2025-11-13T21:55:01.984Z box:shell 2025-11-13T21:55:01 ==> update: cloudron-updater is still active. will check in 5 seconds

With fail thereafter

2025-11-13T22:05:03.577Z box:shell 2025-11-13T22:05:03 ==> update: cloudron-updater is still active. will check in 5 seconds

2025-11-13T22:05:08.591Z box:shell 2025-11-13T22:05:08 ==> update: cloudron-updater failed

2025-11-13T22:05:08.596Z box:shell updater: /usr/bin/sudo -S /home/yellowtent/box/src/scripts/update.sh /tmp/box-4248070419 /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/tasks/7769.log errored BoxError: updater exited with code 1 signal null
    at ChildProcess.<anonymous> (/home/yellowtent/box/src/shell.js:137:19)
    at ChildProcess.emit (node:events:519:28)
    at ChildProcess.emit (node:domain:488:12)
    at ChildProcess._handle.onexit (node:internal/child_process:294:12) {
  reason: 'Shell Error',
  details: {},
  code: 1,
  signal: null
}
2025-11-13T22:05:08.604Z box:locks write: current locks: {"update_task":null}
2025-11-13T22:05:08.605Z box:locks release: update
2025-11-13T22:05:08.605Z box:taskworker Task took 5514.708 seconds
2025-11-13T22:05:08.605Z box:tasks setCompleted - 7769: {"result":null,"error":null}
2025-11-13T22:05:08.607Z box:tasks update 7769: {"percent":100,"result":null,"error":null}

When trying to update to version 9.0.x the update process exits with a error code

Nov 14 00:04:58
Nov 14 00:05:03 box:shell 2025-11-13T22:05:03 ==> update: cloudron-updater is still active. will check in 5 seconds
Nov 14 00:05:03
Nov 14 00:05:08 box:shell 2025-11-13T22:05:08 ==> update: cloudron-updater failed
Nov 14 00:05:08
Nov 14 00:05:08 box:shell updater: /usr/bin/sudo -S /home/yellowtent/box/src/scripts/update.sh /tmp/box-4248070419 /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/tasks/7769.log errored BoxError: updater exited with code 1 signal null
Nov 14 00:05:08 at ChildProcess.<anonymous> (/home/yellowtent/box/src/shell.js:137:19)
Nov 14 00:05:08 at ChildProcess.emit (node:events:519:28)
Nov 14 00:05:08 at ChildProcess.emit (node:domain:488:12)
Nov 14 00:05:08 at ChildProcess._handle.onexit (node:internal/child_process:294:12) {
Nov 14 00:05:08 reason: 'Shell Error',
Nov 14 00:05:08 details: {},
Nov 14 00:05:08 code: 1,
Nov 14 00:05:08 signal: null
Nov 14 00:05:08 }
Nov 14 00:05:08 box:locks write: current locks: {"update_task":null}
Nov 14 00:05:08 box:locks release: update
Nov 14 00:05:08 box:taskworker Task took 5514.708 seconds
Nov 14 00:05:08 box:tasks setCompleted - 7769: {"result":null,"error":null}
Nov 14 00:05:08 box:tasks update 7769: {"percent":100,"result":null,"error":null}

Any idea?

@micmc all credit to the author of the repository

@firmansi correct the OWUI is on Cloudron, but all my MCP tools are hosted on a separate server.

IMHO, it's not best practice to run separate containers on a server running Cloudron

Thanks everyone for your assistance

is there any way to swap to OIDC auth for older install?

If I deploy a new instance of OWUI, Cloudron give me the possibility to choose for OIDC.

On older install it does not... (this app has its own user management)

I implemented this solutions - https://github.com/GlisseManTV/MCPO-File-Generation-Tool

works like a charm!