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  • S stbg

    Could sb. check the licensing of https://www.hoptodesk.com ?
    (I mean the Cloudron compatibility in that respect)
    It's apparently a fork of Rustdesk.

    FYI @girish

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    marcusquinn
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    @stbg Great find!

    I seem to remember the RustDesk one-man show that didn't answer all community questions related to the open source server part, was a bit of an outstanding question as to the motives and trustworthiness.

    Difficult though, as I also think there might have just been some cultural bias and shyness issues too.

    This fork looks a bit better at explaining itself.

    Rare to see FOSS on GitLab first nowadays, that's interesting. Despite it still being quite the disrupter in the space.

    Worth a read:

    • https://www.reddit.com/r/HopToDesk/

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      stbg
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      Ok, super, so as license is good, could you please add it, @girish ?

      @marcusquinn, true, FOSS being first on GitLab is rare, but it happens, see Baserow.

      Although I'd still like to know more about who is behind HopToDesk.

      What I don't understand with RustDesk is that the dev has an amazing star history on Github, but then hasn't figured out the business model – which is blocking him.

      With licensing being not clear, it can't be here. Nice rhym 🙂
      aka on Cloudron.

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        Ok, super, so as license is good, could you please add it, @girish ?

        @marcusquinn, true, FOSS being first on GitLab is rare, but it happens, see Baserow.

        Although I'd still like to know more about who is behind HopToDesk.

        What I don't understand with RustDesk is that the dev has an amazing star history on Github, but then hasn't figured out the business model – which is blocking him.

        With licensing being not clear, it can't be here. Nice rhym 🙂
        aka on Cloudron.

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        jdaviescoates
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        @stbg said in Rust Desk:

        With licensing being not clea

        I'm confused. What license is not clear?

        Rust Desk and HopToDesk are clearly both AGPL-3.0 license :

        https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/blob/master/LICENSE
        https://gitlab.com/hoptodesk/hoptodesk/-/blob/main/LICENSE

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        • girishG girish

          I am not sure what is open source and what is not.

          https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/30 says the "API Server" is not. https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/26 says "it is not ready yet". https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/20 then says it is free and open source.

          Looks like they are trying to figure out the business model.

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          @jdaviescoates: see here, what girish wrote above:

          @girish said in Rust Desk:

          I am not sure what is open source and what is not.

          https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/30 says the "API Server" is not. https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/26 says "it is not ready yet". https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/20 then says it is free and open source.

          Looks like they are trying to figure out the business model.

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          • S stbg

            @jdaviescoates: see here, what girish wrote above:

            @girish said in Rust Desk:

            I am not sure what is open source and what is not.

            https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/30 says the "API Server" is not. https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/26 says "it is not ready yet". https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/20 then says it is free and open source.

            Looks like they are trying to figure out the business model.

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            @stbg thanks, I just asked for clarity in their Discord.

            Someone (not a RustDesk dev, but someone who is aware of what's being done) replied:

            Rustdesk Client - AGPL-3.0
            Rustdesk Server - AGPL-3.0
            The API (addressbook etc) hasnt been released yet so whether its opensource or not it wouldnt stop anything, also there are afew opensource addressbooks being worked on

            I also spotted they have docs for self-hosting here:
            https://rustdesk.com/docs/en/self-host/install/

            This is the install script:
            https://github.com/techahold/rustdeskinstall

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            • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

              @stbg thanks, I just asked for clarity in their Discord.

              Someone (not a RustDesk dev, but someone who is aware of what's being done) replied:

              Rustdesk Client - AGPL-3.0
              Rustdesk Server - AGPL-3.0
              The API (addressbook etc) hasnt been released yet so whether its opensource or not it wouldnt stop anything, also there are afew opensource addressbooks being worked on

              I also spotted they have docs for self-hosting here:
              https://rustdesk.com/docs/en/self-host/install/

              This is the install script:
              https://github.com/techahold/rustdeskinstall

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              #14

              @jdaviescoates wow, super, thanks for figuring that out! 🙂
              @girish can you add the service now? + hoptodesk? (see thread above)

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                Upvoting as well

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                  OK I have installed this on a separate server - it was super easy with Docker. I did not do the "pro" version, just the OSS. The only "downside" is that you have to send a text file with ServerID (IP address) and Key (which you can get from the docker log easily). The performance is awesome - if this was Cloudron it would be amazing. Please !

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                    https://rustdesk.com/blog/2024/10/rustdesk-web-client-v2-preview/

                    The last part I have not spent time on is the ws setting to allow this to connect in a web browser:

                    https://rustdesk.com/docs/en/self-host/rustdesk-server-pro/faq/#8-add-websocket-secure-wss-support-for-the-id-server-and-relay-server-to-enable-secure-communication-for-the-web-client

                    This would be really great! (some nginx stuff)

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                    • S stevespaw

                      OK I have installed this on a separate server - it was super easy with Docker. I did not do the "pro" version, just the OSS. The only "downside" is that you have to send a text file with ServerID (IP address) and Key (which you can get from the docker log easily). The performance is awesome - if this was Cloudron it would be amazing. Please !

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                      marcusquinn
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                      @stevespaw Also agreed!

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                        @girish could you have a look to newest version of rust? And would this be a possible app for cloudron?

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                          I'd like to see this as well.

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                            While you wait, I believe Hetzner has a disk image with this on it.

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                              I'd love to have this as well. Plus 1

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                                @girish could you give this app a chance?

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