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  • S stbg

    Could sb. check the licensing of https://www.hoptodesk.com ?
    (I mean the Cloudron compatibility in that respect)
    It's apparently a fork of Rustdesk.

    FYI @girish

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    @stbg said in Rust Desk:

    Could sb. check the licensing of https://www.hoptodesk.com ?

    Looks like it's GPL
    https://gitlab.com/hoptodesk/hoptodesk/-/blob/main/LICENSE

    Afaik that shouldn't be an issue with using it on Cloudron.

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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    • S stbg

      Could sb. check the licensing of https://www.hoptodesk.com ?
      (I mean the Cloudron compatibility in that respect)
      It's apparently a fork of Rustdesk.

      FYI @girish

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      @stbg Great find!

      I seem to remember the RustDesk one-man show that didn't answer all community questions related to the open source server part, was a bit of an outstanding question as to the motives and trustworthiness.

      Difficult though, as I also think there might have just been some cultural bias and shyness issues too.

      This fork looks a bit better at explaining itself.

      Rare to see FOSS on GitLab first nowadays, that's interesting. Despite it still being quite the disrupter in the space.

      Worth a read:

      • https://www.reddit.com/r/HopToDesk/

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        stbg
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        #10

        Ok, super, so as license is good, could you please add it, @girish ?

        @marcusquinn, true, FOSS being first on GitLab is rare, but it happens, see Baserow.

        Although I'd still like to know more about who is behind HopToDesk.

        What I don't understand with RustDesk is that the dev has an amazing star history on Github, but then hasn't figured out the business model – which is blocking him.

        With licensing being not clear, it can't be here. Nice rhym 🙂
        aka on Cloudron.

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        • S stbg

          Ok, super, so as license is good, could you please add it, @girish ?

          @marcusquinn, true, FOSS being first on GitLab is rare, but it happens, see Baserow.

          Although I'd still like to know more about who is behind HopToDesk.

          What I don't understand with RustDesk is that the dev has an amazing star history on Github, but then hasn't figured out the business model – which is blocking him.

          With licensing being not clear, it can't be here. Nice rhym 🙂
          aka on Cloudron.

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          @stbg said in Rust Desk:

          With licensing being not clea

          I'm confused. What license is not clear?

          Rust Desk and HopToDesk are clearly both AGPL-3.0 license :

          https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/blob/master/LICENSE
          https://gitlab.com/hoptodesk/hoptodesk/-/blob/main/LICENSE

          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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          • girishG girish

            I am not sure what is open source and what is not.

            https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/30 says the "API Server" is not. https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/26 says "it is not ready yet". https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/20 then says it is free and open source.

            Looks like they are trying to figure out the business model.

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            @jdaviescoates: see here, what girish wrote above:

            @girish said in Rust Desk:

            I am not sure what is open source and what is not.

            https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/30 says the "API Server" is not. https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/26 says "it is not ready yet". https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/20 then says it is free and open source.

            Looks like they are trying to figure out the business model.

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            • S stbg

              @jdaviescoates: see here, what girish wrote above:

              @girish said in Rust Desk:

              I am not sure what is open source and what is not.

              https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/30 says the "API Server" is not. https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/26 says "it is not ready yet". https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/20 then says it is free and open source.

              Looks like they are trying to figure out the business model.

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              @stbg thanks, I just asked for clarity in their Discord.

              Someone (not a RustDesk dev, but someone who is aware of what's being done) replied:

              Rustdesk Client - AGPL-3.0
              Rustdesk Server - AGPL-3.0
              The API (addressbook etc) hasnt been released yet so whether its opensource or not it wouldnt stop anything, also there are afew opensource addressbooks being worked on

              I also spotted they have docs for self-hosting here:
              https://rustdesk.com/docs/en/self-host/install/

              This is the install script:
              https://github.com/techahold/rustdeskinstall

              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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              • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                @stbg thanks, I just asked for clarity in their Discord.

                Someone (not a RustDesk dev, but someone who is aware of what's being done) replied:

                Rustdesk Client - AGPL-3.0
                Rustdesk Server - AGPL-3.0
                The API (addressbook etc) hasnt been released yet so whether its opensource or not it wouldnt stop anything, also there are afew opensource addressbooks being worked on

                I also spotted they have docs for self-hosting here:
                https://rustdesk.com/docs/en/self-host/install/

                This is the install script:
                https://github.com/techahold/rustdeskinstall

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                @jdaviescoates wow, super, thanks for figuring that out! 🙂
                @girish can you add the service now? + hoptodesk? (see thread above)

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                  Upvoting as well

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                    OK I have installed this on a separate server - it was super easy with Docker. I did not do the "pro" version, just the OSS. The only "downside" is that you have to send a text file with ServerID (IP address) and Key (which you can get from the docker log easily). The performance is awesome - if this was Cloudron it would be amazing. Please !

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                      https://rustdesk.com/blog/2024/10/rustdesk-web-client-v2-preview/

                      The last part I have not spent time on is the ws setting to allow this to connect in a web browser:

                      https://rustdesk.com/docs/en/self-host/rustdesk-server-pro/faq/#8-add-websocket-secure-wss-support-for-the-id-server-and-relay-server-to-enable-secure-communication-for-the-web-client

                      This would be really great! (some nginx stuff)

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                      • S stevespaw

                        OK I have installed this on a separate server - it was super easy with Docker. I did not do the "pro" version, just the OSS. The only "downside" is that you have to send a text file with ServerID (IP address) and Key (which you can get from the docker log easily). The performance is awesome - if this was Cloudron it would be amazing. Please !

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                        @stevespaw Also agreed!

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                          @girish could you have a look to newest version of rust? And would this be a possible app for cloudron?

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                            I'd like to see this as well.

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                              marcusquinn
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                              While you wait, I believe Hetzner has a disk image with this on it.

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                                I'd love to have this as well. Plus 1

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                                  @girish could you give this app a chance?

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