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  • girishG Offline
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    I am not sure what is open source and what is not.

    https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/30 says the "API Server" is not. https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/26 says "it is not ready yet". https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/20 then says it is free and open source.

    Looks like they are trying to figure out the business model.

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      It seems self-hosted is free now. Maybe they are working towards the same free self-hosted and paid hosted business model with the Web Beta:

      • https://rustdesk.com/server/

      Another video to add to the above:

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      • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

        It seems self-hosted is free now. Maybe they are working towards the same free self-hosted and paid hosted business model with the Web Beta:

        • https://rustdesk.com/server/

        Another video to add to the above:

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        @marcusquinn +1

        Richard Applegate
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          nay news on this? would really be neat 🙂

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            #7

            Could sb. check the licensing of https://www.hoptodesk.com ?
            (I mean the Cloudron compatibility in that respect)
            It's apparently a fork of Rustdesk.

            FYI @girish

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            • S stbg

              Could sb. check the licensing of https://www.hoptodesk.com ?
              (I mean the Cloudron compatibility in that respect)
              It's apparently a fork of Rustdesk.

              FYI @girish

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              @stbg said in Rust Desk:

              Could sb. check the licensing of https://www.hoptodesk.com ?

              Looks like it's GPL
              https://gitlab.com/hoptodesk/hoptodesk/-/blob/main/LICENSE

              Afaik that shouldn't be an issue with using it on Cloudron.

              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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              • S stbg

                Could sb. check the licensing of https://www.hoptodesk.com ?
                (I mean the Cloudron compatibility in that respect)
                It's apparently a fork of Rustdesk.

                FYI @girish

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                @stbg Great find!

                I seem to remember the RustDesk one-man show that didn't answer all community questions related to the open source server part, was a bit of an outstanding question as to the motives and trustworthiness.

                Difficult though, as I also think there might have just been some cultural bias and shyness issues too.

                This fork looks a bit better at explaining itself.

                Rare to see FOSS on GitLab first nowadays, that's interesting. Despite it still being quite the disrupter in the space.

                Worth a read:

                • https://www.reddit.com/r/HopToDesk/

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                  Ok, super, so as license is good, could you please add it, @girish ?

                  @marcusquinn, true, FOSS being first on GitLab is rare, but it happens, see Baserow.

                  Although I'd still like to know more about who is behind HopToDesk.

                  What I don't understand with RustDesk is that the dev has an amazing star history on Github, but then hasn't figured out the business model – which is blocking him.

                  With licensing being not clear, it can't be here. Nice rhym 🙂
                  aka on Cloudron.

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                    Ok, super, so as license is good, could you please add it, @girish ?

                    @marcusquinn, true, FOSS being first on GitLab is rare, but it happens, see Baserow.

                    Although I'd still like to know more about who is behind HopToDesk.

                    What I don't understand with RustDesk is that the dev has an amazing star history on Github, but then hasn't figured out the business model – which is blocking him.

                    With licensing being not clear, it can't be here. Nice rhym 🙂
                    aka on Cloudron.

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                    @stbg said in Rust Desk:

                    With licensing being not clea

                    I'm confused. What license is not clear?

                    Rust Desk and HopToDesk are clearly both AGPL-3.0 license :

                    https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/blob/master/LICENSE
                    https://gitlab.com/hoptodesk/hoptodesk/-/blob/main/LICENSE

                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                    • girishG girish

                      I am not sure what is open source and what is not.

                      https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/30 says the "API Server" is not. https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/26 says "it is not ready yet". https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/20 then says it is free and open source.

                      Looks like they are trying to figure out the business model.

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                      @jdaviescoates: see here, what girish wrote above:

                      @girish said in Rust Desk:

                      I am not sure what is open source and what is not.

                      https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/30 says the "API Server" is not. https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/26 says "it is not ready yet". https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/20 then says it is free and open source.

                      Looks like they are trying to figure out the business model.

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                      • S stbg

                        @jdaviescoates: see here, what girish wrote above:

                        @girish said in Rust Desk:

                        I am not sure what is open source and what is not.

                        https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/30 says the "API Server" is not. https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/26 says "it is not ready yet". https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/20 then says it is free and open source.

                        Looks like they are trying to figure out the business model.

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                        @stbg thanks, I just asked for clarity in their Discord.

                        Someone (not a RustDesk dev, but someone who is aware of what's being done) replied:

                        Rustdesk Client - AGPL-3.0
                        Rustdesk Server - AGPL-3.0
                        The API (addressbook etc) hasnt been released yet so whether its opensource or not it wouldnt stop anything, also there are afew opensource addressbooks being worked on

                        I also spotted they have docs for self-hosting here:
                        https://rustdesk.com/docs/en/self-host/install/

                        This is the install script:
                        https://github.com/techahold/rustdeskinstall

                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                        • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                          @stbg thanks, I just asked for clarity in their Discord.

                          Someone (not a RustDesk dev, but someone who is aware of what's being done) replied:

                          Rustdesk Client - AGPL-3.0
                          Rustdesk Server - AGPL-3.0
                          The API (addressbook etc) hasnt been released yet so whether its opensource or not it wouldnt stop anything, also there are afew opensource addressbooks being worked on

                          I also spotted they have docs for self-hosting here:
                          https://rustdesk.com/docs/en/self-host/install/

                          This is the install script:
                          https://github.com/techahold/rustdeskinstall

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                          @jdaviescoates wow, super, thanks for figuring that out! 🙂
                          @girish can you add the service now? + hoptodesk? (see thread above)

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                            Upvoting as well

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                              OK I have installed this on a separate server - it was super easy with Docker. I did not do the "pro" version, just the OSS. The only "downside" is that you have to send a text file with ServerID (IP address) and Key (which you can get from the docker log easily). The performance is awesome - if this was Cloudron it would be amazing. Please !

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                                https://rustdesk.com/blog/2024/10/rustdesk-web-client-v2-preview/

                                The last part I have not spent time on is the ws setting to allow this to connect in a web browser:

                                https://rustdesk.com/docs/en/self-host/rustdesk-server-pro/faq/#8-add-websocket-secure-wss-support-for-the-id-server-and-relay-server-to-enable-secure-communication-for-the-web-client

                                This would be really great! (some nginx stuff)

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                                  OK I have installed this on a separate server - it was super easy with Docker. I did not do the "pro" version, just the OSS. The only "downside" is that you have to send a text file with ServerID (IP address) and Key (which you can get from the docker log easily). The performance is awesome - if this was Cloudron it would be amazing. Please !

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                                  marcusquinn
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                                  @stevespaw Also agreed!

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                                  Development https://brandlight.org
                                  Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                                    @girish could you have a look to newest version of rust? And would this be a possible app for cloudron?

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                                      I'd like to see this as well.

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                                        While you wait, I believe Hetzner has a disk image with this on it.

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                                        Development https://brandlight.org
                                        Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                                          I'd love to have this as well. Plus 1

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