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  • marcusquinnM Offline
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    marcusquinn
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    #2

    Looked at this a while ago, looks great but you do need to pay for a license to get the self-hosting code.

    I'd have thought this already has a wishlist post, but it seems not.

    Good video on how it works:

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    • girishG Offline
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      I am not sure what is open source and what is not.

      https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/30 says the "API Server" is not. https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/26 says "it is not ready yet". https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/20 then says it is free and open source.

      Looks like they are trying to figure out the business model.

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        It seems self-hosted is free now. Maybe they are working towards the same free self-hosted and paid hosted business model with the Web Beta:

        • https://rustdesk.com/server/

        Another video to add to the above:

        Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
        Development https://brandlight.org
        Life https://marcusquinn.com

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        • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

          It seems self-hosted is free now. Maybe they are working towards the same free self-hosted and paid hosted business model with the Web Beta:

          • https://rustdesk.com/server/

          Another video to add to the above:

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          @marcusquinn +1

          Richard Applegate
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            nay news on this? would really be neat 🙂

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              #7

              Could sb. check the licensing of https://www.hoptodesk.com ?
              (I mean the Cloudron compatibility in that respect)
              It's apparently a fork of Rustdesk.

              FYI @girish

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                Could sb. check the licensing of https://www.hoptodesk.com ?
                (I mean the Cloudron compatibility in that respect)
                It's apparently a fork of Rustdesk.

                FYI @girish

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                @stbg said in Rust Desk:

                Could sb. check the licensing of https://www.hoptodesk.com ?

                Looks like it's GPL
                https://gitlab.com/hoptodesk/hoptodesk/-/blob/main/LICENSE

                Afaik that shouldn't be an issue with using it on Cloudron.

                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                  Could sb. check the licensing of https://www.hoptodesk.com ?
                  (I mean the Cloudron compatibility in that respect)
                  It's apparently a fork of Rustdesk.

                  FYI @girish

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                  @stbg Great find!

                  I seem to remember the RustDesk one-man show that didn't answer all community questions related to the open source server part, was a bit of an outstanding question as to the motives and trustworthiness.

                  Difficult though, as I also think there might have just been some cultural bias and shyness issues too.

                  This fork looks a bit better at explaining itself.

                  Rare to see FOSS on GitLab first nowadays, that's interesting. Despite it still being quite the disrupter in the space.

                  Worth a read:

                  • https://www.reddit.com/r/HopToDesk/

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                  Development https://brandlight.org
                  Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                    #10

                    Ok, super, so as license is good, could you please add it, @girish ?

                    @marcusquinn, true, FOSS being first on GitLab is rare, but it happens, see Baserow.

                    Although I'd still like to know more about who is behind HopToDesk.

                    What I don't understand with RustDesk is that the dev has an amazing star history on Github, but then hasn't figured out the business model – which is blocking him.

                    With licensing being not clear, it can't be here. Nice rhym 🙂
                    aka on Cloudron.

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                      Ok, super, so as license is good, could you please add it, @girish ?

                      @marcusquinn, true, FOSS being first on GitLab is rare, but it happens, see Baserow.

                      Although I'd still like to know more about who is behind HopToDesk.

                      What I don't understand with RustDesk is that the dev has an amazing star history on Github, but then hasn't figured out the business model – which is blocking him.

                      With licensing being not clear, it can't be here. Nice rhym 🙂
                      aka on Cloudron.

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                      @stbg said in Rust Desk:

                      With licensing being not clea

                      I'm confused. What license is not clear?

                      Rust Desk and HopToDesk are clearly both AGPL-3.0 license :

                      https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/blob/master/LICENSE
                      https://gitlab.com/hoptodesk/hoptodesk/-/blob/main/LICENSE

                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                      • girishG girish

                        I am not sure what is open source and what is not.

                        https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/30 says the "API Server" is not. https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/26 says "it is not ready yet". https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/20 then says it is free and open source.

                        Looks like they are trying to figure out the business model.

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                        @jdaviescoates: see here, what girish wrote above:

                        @girish said in Rust Desk:

                        I am not sure what is open source and what is not.

                        https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/30 says the "API Server" is not. https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/26 says "it is not ready yet". https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/20 then says it is free and open source.

                        Looks like they are trying to figure out the business model.

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                          @jdaviescoates: see here, what girish wrote above:

                          @girish said in Rust Desk:

                          I am not sure what is open source and what is not.

                          https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/30 says the "API Server" is not. https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/26 says "it is not ready yet". https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/20 then says it is free and open source.

                          Looks like they are trying to figure out the business model.

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                          jdaviescoates
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                          @stbg thanks, I just asked for clarity in their Discord.

                          Someone (not a RustDesk dev, but someone who is aware of what's being done) replied:

                          Rustdesk Client - AGPL-3.0
                          Rustdesk Server - AGPL-3.0
                          The API (addressbook etc) hasnt been released yet so whether its opensource or not it wouldnt stop anything, also there are afew opensource addressbooks being worked on

                          I also spotted they have docs for self-hosting here:
                          https://rustdesk.com/docs/en/self-host/install/

                          This is the install script:
                          https://github.com/techahold/rustdeskinstall

                          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                          • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                            @stbg thanks, I just asked for clarity in their Discord.

                            Someone (not a RustDesk dev, but someone who is aware of what's being done) replied:

                            Rustdesk Client - AGPL-3.0
                            Rustdesk Server - AGPL-3.0
                            The API (addressbook etc) hasnt been released yet so whether its opensource or not it wouldnt stop anything, also there are afew opensource addressbooks being worked on

                            I also spotted they have docs for self-hosting here:
                            https://rustdesk.com/docs/en/self-host/install/

                            This is the install script:
                            https://github.com/techahold/rustdeskinstall

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                            @jdaviescoates wow, super, thanks for figuring that out! 🙂
                            @girish can you add the service now? + hoptodesk? (see thread above)

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                              Upvoting as well

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                                stevespaw
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                                OK I have installed this on a separate server - it was super easy with Docker. I did not do the "pro" version, just the OSS. The only "downside" is that you have to send a text file with ServerID (IP address) and Key (which you can get from the docker log easily). The performance is awesome - if this was Cloudron it would be amazing. Please !

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                                  https://rustdesk.com/blog/2024/10/rustdesk-web-client-v2-preview/

                                  The last part I have not spent time on is the ws setting to allow this to connect in a web browser:

                                  https://rustdesk.com/docs/en/self-host/rustdesk-server-pro/faq/#8-add-websocket-secure-wss-support-for-the-id-server-and-relay-server-to-enable-secure-communication-for-the-web-client

                                  This would be really great! (some nginx stuff)

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                                    OK I have installed this on a separate server - it was super easy with Docker. I did not do the "pro" version, just the OSS. The only "downside" is that you have to send a text file with ServerID (IP address) and Key (which you can get from the docker log easily). The performance is awesome - if this was Cloudron it would be amazing. Please !

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                                    marcusquinn
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                                    @stevespaw Also agreed!

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                                    Development https://brandlight.org
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                                      @girish could you have a look to newest version of rust? And would this be a possible app for cloudron?

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                                        I'd like to see this as well.

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                                          While you wait, I believe Hetzner has a disk image with this on it.

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