Bounty System
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As mentioned by @robi in another thread about sponsoring apps to get them packaged. I'd like to propose @staff set up some formal way to get this going. I've expressed interest in many apps that I'd be willing to co-sponsor as a post, but that has never gained traction. We need something more organized. Perhaps a poll plugin to the existing forum along with a dedicated subforum to have willing devs advertise their services and languages of expertise.
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@eddowding made some proposals around this too a while back
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Yet, we're still discussing "how" to get apps packaged and not "which" apps should get packaged
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I think gitpay and librepay are probably more suited . Maybe we can open a repo in https://github.com/cloudron-io/ with issues that people can put a bounty on?
That said, to keep things realistic, and to throw some numbers, a package bare minimum costs atleast 5k-10k USD . This doesn't even cover the cost of Cloudron maintaining this new package for a lifetime but lets leave that aside. We have to roughly find hundreds/thousands of people for a specific app (so the app itself, and not Cloudron, needs to have that kind of pull).
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@ girish This is a great conversation. Do you think it would be practical to have a process where an initial "Sponsor" proposes a package. Cloudron looks at the app and decides 5K or 10K (small or large effort). Looking at some of the levels of interest on various apps (30/40/50 votes), perhaps a financial commitment of 0.5K would be required. On a small app 10 participants would meet the threshold. On a large app, 20 participants. Once the threshold is reached, the project would start, and the first step is getting everyone to pay. When the 5K or 10K has been collected, the packaging can begin. It's almost like a private Kickstarter only for Cloudron. In fact, if the fees aren't too high(think this is around 10% all-in), we might be able to use that platform since money is not charged until the threshold 5K or 10K is reached. It also has the benefit of spreading the Cloudron name all over Kickstarter. Thoughts?
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We're definitely not on the same page here. I'm referring to apps that are listed in the wishlist subforum and mainly the ones that have been top voted for ages and fill a gap in the CR app eco-system. We have.. I don't know what the right word to use here.. useless/dupe/niche apps being packaged and there's no way anyone paid 5k for that.
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I think gitpay and librepay are probably more suited . Maybe we can open a repo in https://github.com/cloudron-io/ with issues that people can put a bounty on?
That said, to keep things realistic, and to throw some numbers, a package bare minimum costs atleast 5k-10k USD . This doesn't even cover the cost of Cloudron maintaining this new package for a lifetime but lets leave that aside. We have to roughly find hundreds/thousands of people for a specific app (so the app itself, and not Cloudron, needs to have that kind of pull).
@girish said in Bounty System:
I think gitpay and librepay are probably more suited .
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@humptydumpty Some of the apps in the wishlist are not trivial. For example, Zulip competes with Slack and I would consider that "Enterprise grade". If we could get an app like that professionally packaged and maintained, I would be willing to pay my fair share of 5K or 10K. I have only packaged a PHP app for fun and have no idea how many hours are required to do a serious app with database, Redis, etc. And parsing someone else's codebase is never easy.
What I think could also be helpful (suggested feature) is a separate "membership" called sponsor's club. It would require a small annual fee allowing even non-business Cloudron subscribers to benefit. Sponsor club members would get access to any "sponsored" app that others paid for via the 5K or 10K route. I don't know how many Cloudron subscribers there are, but even 50 per person/year adds up. It might even pay to package one or two commercial apps (or pay for a percentage of the 5K or 10K required).
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Thanks for the initiative @humptydumpty
Not sure @staff is the the right callout. They're busy making Cloudron great.
There are many ways to do this, via WP, ESPO, or even from scratch via (lovable, v0, cursor, etc) AI building a bounty site from scratch in a few minutes deployable in the LAMP app.
[If you have the expertise or time to learn, please do. Could be fun.]Similarly, the packaging can be quick started by AI systems to help get things started, as I've shown in another forum thread.
Some instructions (templates, options, hints, tips) on the bounty site could tie all this together and await participants to drive sponsored apps to the app store for @staff to test and approve.
Needs someone to host
Needs someone to dev site
Needs someone to manage listings from forum, (fun)ding & happiness
Needs someone to create pkg templates
Needs AppDev to package
Who's in?
