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  • JOduMonTJ JOduMonT

    would be nice, but also a big task, to take advantage of Cloudflare proxy for some apps such as

    • Nextcloud
    • WordPress
    • GravCMS

    and not simply using it as a DNS manager.

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    mehdi
    App Dev
    wrote on last edited by
    #16

    @JOduMonT said in What's coming in 6.0:

    would be nice, but also a big task, to take advantage of Cloudflare proxy for some apps such as

    • Nextcloud
    • WordPress
    • GravCMS

    and not simply using it as a DNS manager.

    From a security perspective, I cannot recommend doing this for your self-hosted apps. It basically means authorizing Cloudflare to do a man-in-the-middle attack, and granting them full access to all your data, all your passwords, everything... I believe it negates a lot of the benefits of self-hosting ... And you would have to have a lot of trust in them.

    The only "clean" way to do this would be to enable it only on public-facing stuff, never on the admin interface.

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    • mehdiM mehdi

      @JOduMonT said in What's coming in 6.0:

      would be nice, but also a big task, to take advantage of Cloudflare proxy for some apps such as

      • Nextcloud
      • WordPress
      • GravCMS

      and not simply using it as a DNS manager.

      From a security perspective, I cannot recommend doing this for your self-hosted apps. It basically means authorizing Cloudflare to do a man-in-the-middle attack, and granting them full access to all your data, all your passwords, everything... I believe it negates a lot of the benefits of self-hosting ... And you would have to have a lot of trust in them.

      The only "clean" way to do this would be to enable it only on public-facing stuff, never on the admin interface.

      JOduMonTJ Offline
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      JOduMonT
      wrote on last edited by
      #17

      @mehdi said in What's coming in 6.0:

      self-hosting

      when you self hosts yourself you need to trust a lot of people
      all the people who work at your registrar, DNS and host company, their providers and 3rd parties, the developer of your hosting solution aka Cloudron, the developer of all these apps, ...
      then on the other side you have to trust every device on the network where you are currently connected which means all smartphones, eTV and iFreezer...

      Life is about trust

      do you trust me πŸ™‚

      but yeah I ear you
      and yeah, and the end trusting the GAFAM might be not that bad. πŸ’Ί

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      • JOduMonTJ JOduMonT

        @mehdi said in What's coming in 6.0:

        self-hosting

        when you self hosts yourself you need to trust a lot of people
        all the people who work at your registrar, DNS and host company, their providers and 3rd parties, the developer of your hosting solution aka Cloudron, the developer of all these apps, ...
        then on the other side you have to trust every device on the network where you are currently connected which means all smartphones, eTV and iFreezer...

        Life is about trust

        do you trust me πŸ™‚

        but yeah I ear you
        and yeah, and the end trusting the GAFAM might be not that bad. πŸ’Ί

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        wrote on last edited by marcusquinn
        #18

        @JOduMonT I think the world has change now there's more value in data than people released but capitalism knows and is both; competing to acquire, and exploiting, in ways beyond most people's imaginations - until they find election campaigning shenanigans but don't know what to do about it.

        So necessary to trust in services; yes.

        Trust them with your valuable and private data? πŸ€”

        When Google is reading your shopping email confirmations and Facebook is reading everything with a "Like" script, I think it's a responsibility to have parts of your data world not visible to the marketing world.

        Privacy, encryption and permissions should be as essential in schooling for the Technology Revolution as literacy was for The Renaissance.

        So - data privacy politics for 6.1 anyone? 😁

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        Development https://brandlight.org
        Life https://marcusquinn.com

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        • jdaviescoatesJ Offline
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          wrote on last edited by
          #19

          There are two things I'd really love to see in 6.0

          1. Domain-based admin rights. I want to be able to give people all the rights of an Administrator, but only for specific domain names.
          2. I love for Cloudron to become fully open source again πŸ™‚

          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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          • girishG Offline
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            wrote on last edited by
            #20

            @jdaviescoates said in What's coming in 6.0:

            Domain-based admin rights. I want to be able to give people all the rights of an Administrator, but only for specific domain names.

            Just getting 5.4 out now, but I wanted to make a post about how we plan to implement this under the "service provider setups" feature. I will try to make a post about it early next week since we will need some input anyway before we implement the feature.

            I love for Cloudron to become fully open source again πŸ™‚

            Yup, let's discuss there!

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            • girishG girish

              @jdaviescoates said in What's coming in 6.0:

              Domain-based admin rights. I want to be able to give people all the rights of an Administrator, but only for specific domain names.

              Just getting 5.4 out now, but I wanted to make a post about how we plan to implement this under the "service provider setups" feature. I will try to make a post about it early next week since we will need some input anyway before we implement the feature.

              I love for Cloudron to become fully open source again πŸ™‚

              Yup, let's discuss there!

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              jdaviescoates
              wrote on last edited by
              #21

              Great stuff, thanks @girish ! πŸ™‚

              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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              • ultravioletU Offline
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                wrote on last edited by
                #22

                I would love to see the ability to use the + delimiter in emails e.g user+ebay@domain.com or user+pizza@domain.com.

                Other providers like Mailcow or Mail in a box have this feature and I find it quite handy when I am filtering spam into its own folder!

                Another email feature requests is the ability to create a temporary email from the cloudron admin portal for a logged in user. Mailcow has this feature and it is again quite handy.

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                • ultravioletU ultraviolet

                  I would love to see the ability to use the + delimiter in emails e.g user+ebay@domain.com or user+pizza@domain.com.

                  Other providers like Mailcow or Mail in a box have this feature and I find it quite handy when I am filtering spam into its own folder!

                  Another email feature requests is the ability to create a temporary email from the cloudron admin portal for a logged in user. Mailcow has this feature and it is again quite handy.

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                  imc67
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                  wrote on last edited by imc67
                  #23

                  @ultraviolet it’s already there, see docs: https://cloudron.io/documentation/email/#subaddresses-and-tags

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                  • imc67I imc67

                    @ultraviolet it’s already there, see docs: https://cloudron.io/documentation/email/#subaddresses-and-tags

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                    ultraviolet
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                    #24

                    @imc67 well you learn something new everyday!

                    Suggestion for temporary email would be handy though!

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                    • ultravioletU ultraviolet

                      @imc67 well you learn something new everyday!

                      Suggestion for temporary email would be handy though!

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                      marcusquinn
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                      #25

                      @ultraviolet Does Catch-all & Masquerading enabled help?

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                      • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                        @ultraviolet Does Catch-all & Masquerading enabled help?

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                        JOduMonT
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #26

                        @marcusquinn said in What's coming in 6.0:

                        @ultraviolet Does Catch-all & Masquerading enabled help?

                        Yes I use mainly a catchall with alias for email want to use to reply
                        it is something I was doing with MailCow and it work well with Cloudron too.

                        The only thing in Cloudron you need one catchall per domain while it was possible to alias
                        catchall@domain2.tld to catchall@domain1.tld in MailCow

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                        • marcusquinnM Offline
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                          #27

                          If I can add File Permissions management to the Wishlist for the nice new File Manager please.

                          Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                          Development https://brandlight.org
                          Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                          • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                            If I can add File Permissions management to the Wishlist for the nice new File Manager please.

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                            App Dev
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #28

                            @marcusquinn said in What's coming in 6.0:

                            If I can add File Permissions management to the Wishlist for the nice new File Manager please.

                            Seeing the screenshot in girish's post here (more precisely the icons of the actions on the right), I think it's already done for the next version πŸ™‚

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                              #29

                              Actually the screenshot was only a work-in-progress. The action buttons made it too cluttered so those went into the context menu. There is also an action to at least change the owner to the typical ones we currently use in apps.

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                              • nebulonN nebulon

                                Actually the screenshot was only a work-in-progress. The action buttons made it too cluttered so those went into the context menu. There is also an action to at least change the owner to the typical ones we currently use in apps.

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                                mehdi
                                App Dev
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #30

                                @nebulon A context menu ! These are quite rare on the web, so I would never have guessed to try it, but yeah it's really neat

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                                • nebulonN nebulon

                                  Actually the screenshot was only a work-in-progress. The action buttons made it too cluttered so those went into the context menu. There is also an action to at least change the owner to the typical ones we currently use in apps.

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                                  marcusquinn
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #31

                                  @nebulon Ahh, I see. Perhaps it could so with a ... at the end of the row to click as well to show that πŸ™‚

                                  For interest, I get "Cloudron Error" when trying to navigate into the Contents directory on my Ghost install. Guessing maybe file permissions or bug?

                                  Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                                  Development https://brandlight.org
                                  Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                                  • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                    @nebulon Ahh, I see. Perhaps it could so with a ... at the end of the row to click as well to show that πŸ™‚

                                    For interest, I get "Cloudron Error" when trying to navigate into the Contents directory on my Ghost install. Guessing maybe file permissions or bug?

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                                    mehdi
                                    App Dev
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #32

                                    @marcusquinn They just pushed a 5.4.1 version to fix a bug when navigating symlinks. Maybe ghosts Contents is actually a symlink and that's what you're hitting ?

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                                    • mehdiM mehdi

                                      @marcusquinn They just pushed a 5.4.1 version to fix a bug when navigating symlinks. Maybe ghosts Contents is actually a symlink and that's what you're hitting ?

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                                      marcusquinn
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #33

                                      @mehdi Cool - will test again now. The error also seems to trigger Ghost to run out of memory and restart. Will test again after updating...

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                                      • mehdiM mehdi

                                        @marcusquinn They just pushed a 5.4.1 version to fix a bug when navigating symlinks. Maybe ghosts Contents is actually a symlink and that's what you're hitting ?

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                                        marcusquinn
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #34

                                        @mehdi Confirmed - fixed - great work going on here! πŸ™Œ

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                                        Development https://brandlight.org
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                                        • JOduMonTJ JOduMonT

                                          would be nice, but also a big task, to take advantage of Cloudflare proxy for some apps such as

                                          • Nextcloud
                                          • WordPress
                                          • GravCMS

                                          and not simply using it as a DNS manager.

                                          marcusquinnM Offline
                                          marcusquinnM Offline
                                          marcusquinn
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #35

                                          @JOduMonT Question: what features of Cloudflare Proxy do you like? Just thinking most of it can be done another way anyway.

                                          Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                                          Development https://brandlight.org
                                          Life https://marcusquinn.com

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