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    timconsidine
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    wrote last edited by timconsidine
    #45

    CCAI now has an "app picker" to populate necessary install data fields.

    @LoudLemur Agate+ is one of the custom apps in the list

    So is @DidierMalenfant Agate package, which is great for dedicated gemini site hosting.

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    • timconsidineT timconsidine

      CCAI now has an "app picker" to populate necessary install data fields.

      @LoudLemur Agate+ is one of the custom apps in the list

      So is @DidierMalenfant Agate package, which is great for dedicated gemini site hosting.

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      wrote last edited by LoudLemur
      #46

      @timconsidine Exciting!
      I like the idea of that App Picker!

      I see it and tried, however it failed as another installation to the same cloudron was already in progress.

      (I have been trying to package and deploy another custom application. I thought that process had ground to a halt, but the notification indicates that tcmbp thinks it is still trying...)

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        @timconsidine Exciting!
        I like the idea of that App Picker!

        I see it and tried, however it failed as another installation to the same cloudron was already in progress.

        (I have been trying to package and deploy another custom application. I thought that process had ground to a halt, but the notification indicates that tcmbp thinks it is still trying...)

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        App Dev
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        #47

        @LoudLemur errr
        No idea, sorry
        Have you tried doing one at a time ?

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        • timconsidineT timconsidine

          @LoudLemur errr
          No idea, sorry
          Have you tried doing one at a time ?

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          wrote last edited by robi
          #48

          @timconsidine I got the same message.

          I tried to login, failed the first time, fixed typo from entered data, logged in.

          Selected your agate+ package, then got the message it's already in progress.

          Thoughts:
          See if the error state is interfering between tries.
          Make sure to clear it on every submission, not just starting over.
          It's annoying that each field starts with capital letter on mobile.
          Would help to have ports prefilled like in your app.

          Update: tried again from scratch, no error modal, still got the failure.
          Then switched to the other agate app and got this: Unsupported git hosting service.

          Doesn't like self hosted domains other than github and cloudron. Lol

          I'd upload a screenshot but can't seem to paste or upload from this mobile browser.

          Conscious tech

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            #49

            Seems you have to start with the image first.

            4BB849BA-C82A-49E4-90BD-A279AB6B14EA.jpeg

            Conscious tech

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            • robiR robi

              Seems you have to start with the image first.

              4BB849BA-C82A-49E4-90BD-A279AB6B14EA.jpeg

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              • robiR robi

                @timconsidine I got the same message.

                I tried to login, failed the first time, fixed typo from entered data, logged in.

                Selected your agate+ package, then got the message it's already in progress.

                Thoughts:
                See if the error state is interfering between tries.
                Make sure to clear it on every submission, not just starting over.
                It's annoying that each field starts with capital letter on mobile.
                Would help to have ports prefilled like in your app.

                Update: tried again from scratch, no error modal, still got the failure.
                Then switched to the other agate app and got this: Unsupported git hosting service.

                Doesn't like self hosted domains other than github and cloudron. Lol

                I'd upload a screenshot but can't seem to paste or upload from this mobile browser.

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                timconsidine
                App Dev
                wrote last edited by timconsidine
                #51

                @robi thank you for the analysis

                Yes, unsupported git hosting service is the critical error. I will remove the standard Agate package from the list until I can confirm Dider's git details.

                @DidierMalenfant what is the git service behind "https://code.malenfant.net/didier/agate-app " ?
                I can try to add support for it.
                Also does it need port binding to be set ?

                I will check my Agate+ settings again.

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                  #52

                  Agate+ installed using https://ccai.appx.uk/ and the nice, new "Quick Setup" option.

                  • The port field 19XX was a bit confusing. If you leave it like that, the installation doesn't work. For the quick setup, how about suggesting 1965 and a note/tool-tip for changing this if needed

                  • I don't think that ccai checks to see if another installation is happening at the same time before attempting to start. In something like a college setting, lots of people might be trying to use the same service at the same time in a class.

                  • The reverse proxy for additional servers is a nice tool. I tried using the terminal as suggested to setup an additional server using the initial one as a reverse proxy, but it failed.

                  /app/code# register-new-instance.sh
                  bash: register-new-instance.sh: command not found

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                    wrote last edited by timconsidine
                    #53

                    I could not replicate the errors.
                    So I tweaked the CCAI installer to be more aggressive on clearing past installation attempts, as robi and loudlemur mentioned multiple attempts.

                    NB : if you're doing repeat installs, it's definitely worth using the [Start Over] but maybe you did.

                    NB : when installing to a subdomain not used before, Cloudron's reverse proxy registration can be variable (fast to slow). Patience required 😆

                    I also cleared Didier's package details until they can be verified.

                    I used CCAI to install a new instance of Agate+ and made a video.

                    Note : for the first installation of Agate+, the port binding needs to be clear or set to GEMINI_PPORT=1965.
                    For additional installations, port binding needs to be GEMIN_PORT=1967 or higher if you have other installations. And in your first installation of Agate+, register your 2nd etc instance. See POSTINSTALL.md in the 1st instance, which is shown on the app settings dashboard.

                    No privilege to post the install demo here, so it's over here : https://ccai-demo.appx.uk/
                    This might flush out any difference in the way I am doing it.

                    Other thoughts :

                    • use [Start Over] between install attempts
                    • reload or force reload the browser page between install attempts
                    • check in your Cloudron whether an app was created despite failed install, and manually uninstall it through the Cloudron app dashboard before trying again
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                      #54

                      Pushed small tweak to cloudron git and to hosted docker image (v 6.3.7)

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                      • timconsidineT timconsidine

                        @robi thank you for the analysis

                        Yes, unsupported git hosting service is the critical error. I will remove the standard Agate package from the list until I can confirm Dider's git details.

                        @DidierMalenfant what is the git service behind "https://code.malenfant.net/didier/agate-app " ?
                        I can try to add support for it.
                        Also does it need port binding to be set ?

                        I will check my Agate+ settings again.

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                        @timconsidine said in Agate+ (dual protocol server to serve gemini/http from one source):

                        @DidierMalenfant what is the git service behind "https://code.malenfant.net/didier/agate-app " ?
                        I can try to add support for it.

                        His is just a Gitea instance, so should be fine. It should fail on the git command attempt, not the URL check.

                        I'd also like to keep my cloudron info while installing other apps, until the browser window is closed.
                        Why log in every time?

                        Same for subdomain and port settings, keep the TLD and have a default port for first installs, we know to increment on additional installs.

                        Conscious tech

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                        • L LoudLemur

                          Agate+ installed using https://ccai.appx.uk/ and the nice, new "Quick Setup" option.

                          • The port field 19XX was a bit confusing. If you leave it like that, the installation doesn't work. For the quick setup, how about suggesting 1965 and a note/tool-tip for changing this if needed

                          • I don't think that ccai checks to see if another installation is happening at the same time before attempting to start. In something like a college setting, lots of people might be trying to use the same service at the same time in a class.

                          • The reverse proxy for additional servers is a nice tool. I tried using the terminal as suggested to setup an additional server using the initial one as a reverse proxy, but it failed.

                          /app/code# register-new-instance.sh
                          bash: register-new-instance.sh: command not found

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                          @LoudLemur said in Agate+ (dual protocol server to serve gemini/http from one source):

                          /app/code# register-new-instance.sh
                          bash: register-new-instance.sh : command not found

                          That's because it's in /app/data

                          Take a look in the App Terminal or File Manager

                          Conscious tech

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                          • timconsidineT timconsidine

                            Pushed small tweak to cloudron git and to hosted docker image (v 6.3.7)

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                            wrote last edited by robi
                            #57

                            @timconsidine Can you add a checkbox to an app anyone installs to submit it to your list of available packages once a successful install has taken place?

                            Private apps remain private if left unchecked.

                            Conscious tech

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                              #58

                              Btw, your Agate+ app doesn't seem to complete health check, hence remains Starting... & unclickable from UI.

                              Conscious tech

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                              • robiR robi

                                Btw, your Agate+ app doesn't seem to complete health check, hence remains Starting... & unclickable from UI.

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                                App Dev
                                wrote last edited by timconsidine
                                #59

                                @robi really ?! 😢 Not good, sorry.
                                Works for me though !
                                Let me investigate further.

                                Are you installing manually or through ccai.appx.uk ?
                                Is this with v6.37 (latest - uploaded to cloudron git this evening) ?

                                Just so I know what to investigate

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                                • timconsidineT timconsidine

                                  @robi really ?! 😢 Not good, sorry.
                                  Works for me though !
                                  Let me investigate further.

                                  Are you installing manually or through ccai.appx.uk ?
                                  Is this with v6.37 (latest - uploaded to cloudron git this evening) ?

                                  Just so I know what to investigate

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                                  wrote last edited by robi
                                  #60

                                  @timconsidine said in Agate+ (dual protocol server to serve gemini/http from one source):

                                  Are you installing manually or through ccai.appx.uk ?
                                  Using your ccai

                                  Is this with v6.37 (latest - uploaded to cloudron git this evening) ?

                                  v6.37, pkg v 3.3.17

                                  I installed it twice, once with the port set to 1968, then uninstalled, and installed again with your new instructions to delete the port field, same result.

                                  App works, but Cloudron doesn't know.

                                  Conscious tech

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                                  • robiR robi

                                    @timconsidine said in Agate+ (dual protocol server to serve gemini/http from one source):

                                    Are you installing manually or through ccai.appx.uk ?
                                    Using your ccai

                                    Is this with v6.37 (latest - uploaded to cloudron git this evening) ?

                                    v6.37, pkg v 3.3.17

                                    I installed it twice, once with the port set to 1968, then uninstalled, and installed again with your new instructions to delete the port field, same result.

                                    App works, but Cloudron doesn't know.

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                                    timconsidine
                                    App Dev
                                    wrote last edited by
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                                    @robi sorry for trouble
                                    and thanks for info
                                    I’m not seeing this behaviour
                                    Will check again

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                                    • robiR robi

                                      @timconsidine said in Agate+ (dual protocol server to serve gemini/http from one source):

                                      Are you installing manually or through ccai.appx.uk ?
                                      Using your ccai

                                      Is this with v6.37 (latest - uploaded to cloudron git this evening) ?

                                      v6.37, pkg v 3.3.17

                                      I installed it twice, once with the port set to 1968, then uninstalled, and installed again with your new instructions to delete the port field, same result.

                                      App works, but Cloudron doesn't know.

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                                      timconsidine
                                      App Dev
                                      wrote last edited by
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                                      If it is the first installation of Agate+, port should be blank or GEMINI_PORT=1965.

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                                      • robiR robi

                                        Btw, your Agate+ app doesn't seem to complete health check, hence remains Starting... & unclickable from UI.

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                                        @robi The uncompleted healthcheck was the final stumbling block I had with trying to install another custom application. It was all going well until the health check, but then there was no response...

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                                          wrote last edited by timconsidine
                                          #64

                                          Just installed new Agate+ using the custom app installer https://ccai.appx.uk

                                          Screenshot 2025-07-31 at 08.10.48.png

                                          I am not seeing the same issues - sails through for me - going to have to think about how to diagnose your experiences.

                                          Screenshot 2025-07-31 at 08.10.00.png

                                          NB the settings in the above screenshot are because I already have a "real" installation running, so for this new one using a higher port number.
                                          For the first installation on a particular Cloudron, port binding field should be blank or GEMINI_PORT=1965.

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