Has anyone tried using Claude Code / Ralph Wiggum to package Cloudron apps?

[timconsidine]

@robi / @marcusquinn I haven't been using context7 MCP but I probably should - not been using any MCP, but again I should - will add to my list - just tell my TRAE to go check docs.cloudron.io/packaging

[jdaviescoates]

@timconsidine said in Has anyone tried using Claude Code / Ralph Wiggum to package Cloudron apps?:

TRAE

https://www.trae.ai/ I presume?

[timconsidine]

@jdaviescoates yes, that's the one
there are others (previously used Windsurf)
But I like TRAE

[scooke]

@timconsidine That packaging link gives me a 404.... Ah, wait a minutes, context7 would just use the text that's under that link, correct? Like /addons, /cheat-sheet, /cli, /manifest, /publishing, /tutorial... and you just append the same command, use context7 at the end of the prompt in the Solo prompt box? I assume your prompt includes Cloudron somewhere. How verbose is it? Like, "Make an app following https://docs.cloudron.io/packaging/ for bookwyrm"? This stuff is fascinating.

[timconsidine]

@scooke I haven't got round to using context7 yet.

The packaging link was typed off the top of my head.
I think the main problem is that there is not a "root" page for the packaging docs. IMO Cloudron should create one.

Let me investigate a bit more later (fighting Zoneminder packaging at the moment)

[timconsidine]

@scooke I checked out context7 - looks good !
thank you @marcusquinn for bringing it to all our attention

easy sign up and a free plan for 1,000 requests per month (don't know how quickly that gets consumed in practice)

@scooke, it seems someone already ingested docs.cloudron.io into context7 (@loudlemur raised this previously, although I missed that post)

so there's effectively no setup to do. TRAE supports context7 from its Marketplace (no cost) and it seems context7 supports all the major coding assistants (if TRAE is not your thing).

I am using TRAE Pro plan, not the SOLO mode - thinking about subscribing for SOLO but currently the Pro plan Builder (now Builder with MCP option) is rocking it for me.

and yes, I'm guessing that a simple prompt in TRAE AI chat after adding the context7 MCP might work :
"use context7 to review cloudron docs and help me package bookwyrm (GitHub : github.com/<dev>/<app>) for deployment on Cloudron"

I will need to check it out further.
After my success with packaging 2 complex apps Zoneminder and Seafile, I'm keen to see what other "impossible" Wishlist items can be ticked off.

EDIT : and it would be wise to add a rule in your AI assistant to use context7 without asking :

Always use Context7 MCP when I need library/API documentation, code generation, setup or configuration steps without me having to explicitly ask.

[marcusquinn]

@timconsidine I'm guessing TRAE is using Sonnet to make it so cheap?

Have you tried Opus 4.5? I'm hooked on opencode.ai + Claude Max.

[robi]

This just in: The Full Nelson - Beyond Ralph
https://github.com/jusgou/nelson

[timconsidine]

@marcusquinn to be honest, I am not sure what model is used because I use it on Auto. Allegedly that means they use the best for the task.

I think they don't use Anthropic, but you can configure access by your own subscription.

Looking into opencode.ai today

[marcusquinn]

@timconsidine cool. 5.2 Codex has been the only ones from those i can trust with coding, almost as good as Opus 4.5, just slower.

I think you'll like. You might like my https://aidevops.sh to give it a full devops lifecycle for coding with proper git and worktree usage. Must saver for parallel work on the same repo, and then connect up all the code auditing tools on your repo for a postflight check and refinement.

[timconsidine]

Looking into opencode.ai today

opencode was a lot easier to set up than Claude Code
And it looks nicer
Thank you @marcusquinn

Looking at aidevops ...

[marcusquinn]

@timconsidine open-source wins again

[nebulon]

I can second this, opencode was pretty straightforwards to get to work against an ollama running on a different machine locally. However my test system is absolutely too old to make proper use of it. At least I know it is theoretically possible if I would get a proper setup

[timconsidine]

timconsidine said:

I discovered TRAE and now use this IDE with their AI in auto-mode exclusively for projects

Feeling a sense of obligation to the community, I feel I should update this as it's no longer true.

I have really liked using TRAE, still think it is better than most. BUT ...

• I came across some post (lost now) about the very heavy memory usage of their desktop IDE app, and also very heavy hidden telemetry (it's ByteDance so ???)
• they do tend towards frontier models in 'Auto' mode, which has been fine, but with things Kimi 2.7 Code and Deepseek model advances touching frontier performance, I started to question this.
• my heavy usage got me capped on my plan for the first time, with only solution upgrade from $30/month to $100/month. Big jump. Or top up with on-demand but their pricing is opaque.

So now I am in course of moving to using Zed as the IDE, backed by Kimi 2.7 Code from VeniceAI and Ollama Cloud (at least some privacy if not total), and experimenting with Omniroute.

Struggled with Zed default UI (mostly very small and different layout to what I am used to), but investing time to customise gets me a decent familiar result.

Let's see how Zed and Kimi from Venice/Ollama perform on a big non-Cloudron project.

[robi]

I have a new offline solution with llamafile that runs on n M1 really well. Should see how it runs on CPU only VPSs.