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  • JesperBllnbmJ Offline
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    Hi there!

    I just confirmed that email works in PocketBase on Cloudron when using STARTTLS on port 2587.

    What confused me is that PocketBase’s default SMTP port is 587, but on Cloudron nothing listens on 587, the provided ports are 2525 (plain), 2587 (STARTTLS), and 2465 (SMTPS).

    Is the default 587 simply not applicable on Cloudron, or am I misunderstanding how PocketBase is expected to integrate with Cloudron’s mail relay?

    Thanks!🙏

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    • JesperBllnbmJ JesperBllnbm

      Hi there!

      I just confirmed that email works in PocketBase on Cloudron when using STARTTLS on port 2587.

      What confused me is that PocketBase’s default SMTP port is 587, but on Cloudron nothing listens on 587, the provided ports are 2525 (plain), 2587 (STARTTLS), and 2465 (SMTPS).

      Is the default 587 simply not applicable on Cloudron, or am I misunderstanding how PocketBase is expected to integrate with Cloudron’s mail relay?

      Thanks!🙏

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        james
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        #3

        Hello @jesperbllnbm
        Due to the way PocketBase is developed it can not connect internally to STARTTLS without the certs.
        This works for mosts apps, but some don't like it.
        PocketBase is requiring a valid mail server certificate to send email internally, thus 2587 is used.

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          JesperBllnbm
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          Wow such a quick response time! Thanks that cleared it 👍

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            Hello @jesperbllnbm
            Always happy to help.

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              JesperBllnbm
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              Hi @James - I do have 1 more question. Is it normal that the container restart (stop->start, using the cloudron dashboard) resets the email port? After a restart I am back to 587, is there a way to persist this configuration?

              Thanks in advance!

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                james
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                Hello @jesperbllnbm
                I will look into it.

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                  Hello @jesperbllnbm
                  I was able to reproduce this issue.
                  An app update will be avaible soon to fix the issue.

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                    The new package is out

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                      😍 amazing turn around time

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                      • V Offline
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                        Hi
                        I don't succeed to make pocketbase work with cloudron SMTP
                        I always end up with timeout errors

                        What am I missing

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                          Hmm it appears that when sending test email, pocketbase is showing timeout but after a while I do receive the test email in my inbox.
                          This slow response also make login very slow because pocketbase is trying to sen email alerts. I am not sure where can be the problem.

                          From pocketbase point of view, the email request gave timeout
                          From user point of view the login time is slow (~30 seconds maybe) -> workround : disable login alerts
                          But emails do get sent at the end ? At least test emails

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                            Hello @valexico
                            Thanks for reporting this.
                            I am looking into it.

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                              This behaviour is very odd.
                              Sometimes it sends, sometimes it does not, but always the send test email times out.
                              As if there is an internal event / cron handler that does not work correctly and only if you hit the perfect time frame to send a test mail it actually sends

                              Many times it fails the send test mail only to send the mail after the failed attempt anyway.
                              I observed this in the mail service logs and the debug log of pocketbase.

                              There must be something going in internally that is creating this issue.

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                                Could it be hitting throttling limits?

                                Conscious tech

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                                  Could it be hitting throttling limits?

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                                  james
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                                  Hello @robi

                                  The Cloudron mail server was not throttling, I ensured that.

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                                  • jamesJ james

                                    Hello @robi

                                    The Cloudron mail server was not throttling, I ensured that.

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                                    @james I was thinking fw not mail.

                                    Next thing would be to see what the code does

                                    Conscious tech

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