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  • timconsidineT Online
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    wrote last edited by timconsidine
    #28

    pushed a new version v1.0.63

    Test site : 191CazMVNaAcT9Y1zhkxd9ixMBPs59g2um

    tweaked : v1.0.64

    Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS

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    • timconsidineT timconsidine

      pushed a new version v1.0.63

      Test site : 191CazMVNaAcT9Y1zhkxd9ixMBPs59g2um

      tweaked : v1.0.64

      robiR Offline
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      wrote last edited by robi
      #29

      @timconsidine it's missing an expected directory structure where all sites go to /app/data/data/

      The first zite it loads is it's ZeroHello site: something like 1GnACK...../content.json

      The TOR ports need opening up.
      It can't seem to reach trackers either.
      it needs to be able to edit it's own config file for it's own autodetections as well as when adjusting things from the webUI.

      Pull down log shows some of what I mentioned:

      Displaying 243 of 243 lines found in the last 32kB of the log file. (71kB total)
      [2026-02-13 15:24:29,933] WARNING PeerPortchecker checkIpv6scanner check error: URLError: <urlopen error timed out> in PeerPortchecker.py line 49 > 144 > 28 > <urllib>/request.py line 215 > 515 > 532 > 492 > 1373 > 1347 in 20.105s
      [2026-02-13 15:24:29,934] INFO ConnServer Server port opened ipv4: False, ipv6: False
      [2026-02-13 15:24:29,938] DEBUG ConnServer External ip found on interfaces: fd00:c107:d509::57
      [2026-02-13 15:24:29,938] DEBUG TorManager Start onions
      [2026-02-13 15:24:29,940] DEBUG TorManager > ADD_ONION NEW:ED25519-V3 port=15441
      [2026-02-13 15:24:30,219] DEBUG TorManager < 250-ServiceID=svwuljx6fxdadufrsxgudnvsatf5tepvr3xqien2lettldygoilu5xad
      250-PrivateKey=ED25519-V3:0MxDGrbMTtSd4IN8UiuFls8NPmBL4jRJw4erms8xJ1nIUgG/JwLjmOF1YXsd2tHczYeINPo+A/sQbbeR7zZJLw==
      250 OK
      [2026-02-13 15:24:30,220] DEBUG TorManager Created new hidden service for global: svwuljx6fxdadufrsxgudnvsatf5tepvr3xqien2lettldygoilu5xad
      [2026-02-13 15:24:30,220] DEBUG ConnServer Checksites done in 21.818s
      [2026-02-13 15:24:30,254] DEBUG Ui.UiServer 172.18.0.1 - - [2026-02-13 15:24:30] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 1699 0.000542
      [2026-02-13 15:24:31,390] DEBUG Site:1GnACK..PDnF Recent peers 0 of 0 (need: 20)
      [2026-02-13 15:24:31,391] DEBUG Site:1GnACK..PDnF Pex result: from 0 peers got 0 new peers.
      [2026-02-13 15:24:33,413] DEBUG Site:1GnACK..PDnF Tracker http://tracker.opentrackr.org:1337/announce announce failed: URLError: <urlopen error timed out> in SiteAnnouncer.py line 201 > AnnounceBitTorrentPlugin.py line 129 > 94 > <urllib>/request.py line 215 > 515 > 532 > 492 > 1373 > 1347 in mode start
      [2026-02-13 15:24:38,185] DEBUG Ui.UiServer 172.18.0.1 - - [2026-02-13 15:24:38] "GET /191CazMVNaAcT9Y1zhkxd9ixMBPs59g2um/ HTTP/1.1" 200 1699 0.000810
      [2026-02-13 15:24:39,360] DEBUG Ui.UiServer 172.18.0.1 - - [2026-02-13 15:24:39] "GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 200 270651 0.012992
      [2026-02-13 15:24:40,503] DEBUG Ui.UiServer 172.18.0.1 - - [2026-02-13 15:24:40] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 1699 0.000644
      ...
      [2026-02-13 15:29:09,406] DEBUG Site:1GnACK..PDnF Content.json not exist: ./data/1GnACKctkJrGWHTqxk9T9zXo2bLQc2PDnF/content.json
      [2026-02-13 15:29:12,773] DEBUG Site:1GnACK..PDnF Tracker failed, skipping to next one...
      [2026-02-13 15:29:14,408] DEBUG Site:1GnACK..PDnF CheckModifications: Waiting for peers...
      

      There's no need to package the separate admin pw, since it's in the config file.

      If you do a local install on your computer, you'll see what I mean in terms of dir structure and how it works when you watch the log.
      It downloads it's homepage from peers it connects to from trackers who have a list of peers.

      More on the ZeroNet Docs website:
      https://demo.zeronet.io/docs/

      Online proxyies still functioning:
      https://0net-preview.com/
      https://zero.acelewis.com/

      This proxy is really what we're setting up here since it's self-hosted in Cloudron. Here's an example set of instructions to install it as a proxy: https://bondarenko.xyz/zeroproxy.html

      Conscious tech

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      • robiR robi

        @timconsidine it's missing an expected directory structure where all sites go to /app/data/data/

        The first zite it loads is it's ZeroHello site: something like 1GnACK...../content.json

        The TOR ports need opening up.
        It can't seem to reach trackers either.
        it needs to be able to edit it's own config file for it's own autodetections as well as when adjusting things from the webUI.

        Pull down log shows some of what I mentioned:

        Displaying 243 of 243 lines found in the last 32kB of the log file. (71kB total)
        [2026-02-13 15:24:29,933] WARNING PeerPortchecker checkIpv6scanner check error: URLError: <urlopen error timed out> in PeerPortchecker.py line 49 > 144 > 28 > <urllib>/request.py line 215 > 515 > 532 > 492 > 1373 > 1347 in 20.105s
        [2026-02-13 15:24:29,934] INFO ConnServer Server port opened ipv4: False, ipv6: False
        [2026-02-13 15:24:29,938] DEBUG ConnServer External ip found on interfaces: fd00:c107:d509::57
        [2026-02-13 15:24:29,938] DEBUG TorManager Start onions
        [2026-02-13 15:24:29,940] DEBUG TorManager > ADD_ONION NEW:ED25519-V3 port=15441
        [2026-02-13 15:24:30,219] DEBUG TorManager < 250-ServiceID=svwuljx6fxdadufrsxgudnvsatf5tepvr3xqien2lettldygoilu5xad
        250-PrivateKey=ED25519-V3:0MxDGrbMTtSd4IN8UiuFls8NPmBL4jRJw4erms8xJ1nIUgG/JwLjmOF1YXsd2tHczYeINPo+A/sQbbeR7zZJLw==
        250 OK
        [2026-02-13 15:24:30,220] DEBUG TorManager Created new hidden service for global: svwuljx6fxdadufrsxgudnvsatf5tepvr3xqien2lettldygoilu5xad
        [2026-02-13 15:24:30,220] DEBUG ConnServer Checksites done in 21.818s
        [2026-02-13 15:24:30,254] DEBUG Ui.UiServer 172.18.0.1 - - [2026-02-13 15:24:30] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 1699 0.000542
        [2026-02-13 15:24:31,390] DEBUG Site:1GnACK..PDnF Recent peers 0 of 0 (need: 20)
        [2026-02-13 15:24:31,391] DEBUG Site:1GnACK..PDnF Pex result: from 0 peers got 0 new peers.
        [2026-02-13 15:24:33,413] DEBUG Site:1GnACK..PDnF Tracker http://tracker.opentrackr.org:1337/announce announce failed: URLError: <urlopen error timed out> in SiteAnnouncer.py line 201 > AnnounceBitTorrentPlugin.py line 129 > 94 > <urllib>/request.py line 215 > 515 > 532 > 492 > 1373 > 1347 in mode start
        [2026-02-13 15:24:38,185] DEBUG Ui.UiServer 172.18.0.1 - - [2026-02-13 15:24:38] "GET /191CazMVNaAcT9Y1zhkxd9ixMBPs59g2um/ HTTP/1.1" 200 1699 0.000810
        [2026-02-13 15:24:39,360] DEBUG Ui.UiServer 172.18.0.1 - - [2026-02-13 15:24:39] "GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 200 270651 0.012992
        [2026-02-13 15:24:40,503] DEBUG Ui.UiServer 172.18.0.1 - - [2026-02-13 15:24:40] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 1699 0.000644
        ...
        [2026-02-13 15:29:09,406] DEBUG Site:1GnACK..PDnF Content.json not exist: ./data/1GnACKctkJrGWHTqxk9T9zXo2bLQc2PDnF/content.json
        [2026-02-13 15:29:12,773] DEBUG Site:1GnACK..PDnF Tracker failed, skipping to next one...
        [2026-02-13 15:29:14,408] DEBUG Site:1GnACK..PDnF CheckModifications: Waiting for peers...
        

        There's no need to package the separate admin pw, since it's in the config file.

        If you do a local install on your computer, you'll see what I mean in terms of dir structure and how it works when you watch the log.
        It downloads it's homepage from peers it connects to from trackers who have a list of peers.

        More on the ZeroNet Docs website:
        https://demo.zeronet.io/docs/

        Online proxyies still functioning:
        https://0net-preview.com/
        https://zero.acelewis.com/

        This proxy is really what we're setting up here since it's self-hosted in Cloudron. Here's an example set of instructions to install it as a proxy: https://bondarenko.xyz/zeroproxy.html

        timconsidineT Online
        timconsidineT Online
        timconsidine
        App Dev
        wrote last edited by
        #30

        @robi investigating ....

        Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS

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        • timconsidineT Online
          timconsidineT Online
          timconsidine
          App Dev
          wrote last edited by timconsidine
          #31

          released v1.0.76

          • 'data' folder was not missing - just mapped directly to (i.e. included in /app/data) - but changed to /app/data/data - "clumsy" but more conventional for zeronet maybe

          • Tor enabled in / out

          I dislike the conventional 0net approach of hosting a default standard home page from another site - confusing to new users in my view - so I made my own home page which is clearer (but can be fleshed out or adapted further if needed), with links to the standard sites included for conventionality.

          Highly recommend a new install in new container for testing (and live use) as many small changes. 1 line install :

          curl -fsSL https://customappgateway.appx.uk/install.sh | bash -s -- --install-app "zeronet"

          Screenshot 2026-02-14 at 13.15.11.png

          Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS

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          • timconsidineT timconsidine

            released v1.0.76

            • 'data' folder was not missing - just mapped directly to (i.e. included in /app/data) - but changed to /app/data/data - "clumsy" but more conventional for zeronet maybe

            • Tor enabled in / out

            I dislike the conventional 0net approach of hosting a default standard home page from another site - confusing to new users in my view - so I made my own home page which is clearer (but can be fleshed out or adapted further if needed), with links to the standard sites included for conventionality.

            Highly recommend a new install in new container for testing (and live use) as many small changes. 1 line install :

            curl -fsSL https://customappgateway.appx.uk/install.sh | bash -s -- --install-app "zeronet"

            Screenshot 2026-02-14 at 13.15.11.png

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            wrote last edited by robi
            #32

            @timconsidine said in ZeroNet:

            released v1.0.76

            Thank you!

            • 'data' folder was not missing - just mapped directly to (i.e. included in /app/data) - but changed to /app/data/data - "clumsy" but more conventional for zeronet maybe

            Alright, that data/ dir is the expected place by the code. It has very specific reasons for that structure, just like public_html/ does. Some things do not go in there, like the config file, as it is then writable from the web. But the Geolite DB is expected there, or the right menu breaks (drag the 0 menu left) the world.

            • Tor enabled in / out

            You set the Tor option to Always, instead of Enabled, so it will funnel ALL requests through tor, not just the Tor connections. This is going to make things very slow.

            I dislike the conventional 0net approach of hosting a default standard home page from another site - confusing to new users in my view - so I made my own home page which is clearer (but can be fleshed out or adapted further if needed), with links to the standard sites included for conventionality.

            Oh, that totally defeats the purpose as the magic of Zeronet is it's default homepage. It's not static as it keeps track of the sites you visit and let's you know of new posts in forums, blogs, etc. It's the lifeblood of the Zeronet experience. Changing it removes that magic.

            Each fork has it's own default page since there are specifics linked to it like new versions of old zites that no longer work or new ID sites, etc. Important to keep it.

            One should be able to change and update the UI password as well. Doesn't seem possible at the moment, hardcoded?

            The plugins dir is also missing or not linked to /app/data/, which is how features get turned on and off in Zeronet, by renaming of these plugin dirs.

            Right now I can't seem to browse to anywhere and it keeps asking for the UI pw for every zite. Missing plugins.

            Getting closer to functional!

            Please restore the vanilla install experience.

            Conscious tech

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              timconsidine
              App Dev
              wrote last edited by timconsidine
              #33

              Right now I can't seem to browse to anywhere and it keeps asking for the UI pw for every zite. Missing plugins.

              • Strange
                I have been clicking away randomly without any real issues - just sites that seems to have no new content for 5+ years

              • ZeroBlog (on original home page) : no new content since December 31, 2019

              • I haven't been asked for the password once after initial login

              Changing it removes that magic.

              My homepage keeps track of where I visited
              Not sure of new blog posts as I haven't joined any yet

              It's the lifeblood of the Zeronet experience.

              But it is so darned ugly !

              Will do some more investigating, but back on trying to make Dify work in Cloudron

              ✅ The original home page is still available as link from my home page - maybe that will provide the blog post stuff ? Will try to check

              Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS

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                wrote last edited by
                #34

                Yup, ideally the entire zip extraction is available in /app/data

                While it was more actively developed, that is how the self-update mechanism worked as well, updating it's own source files.

                It's also interesting the File Manager can't open the zeronet.conf -> link file.
                Not that it should be a link.

                I tried all the links from your page, they just asked for the pw on and on.

                Since for me it's misconfigured on install, I go through and change a bunch of settings including the password, but that seems to reset on restart, so I keep getting stuck.

                Conscious tech

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                  wrote last edited by
                  #35

                  Weird
                  I don’t have any of that.

                  Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS

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                    wrote last edited by
                    #36

                    @robi / others interested

                    I have revisited the Zeronet repo / build.
                    Should now be a working vanilla Zeronet Conservancy deployment.

                    v2.0.0
                    repo : https://git.cloudron.io/timconsidine/cloudron-zeronet

                    docker image : tcmbp132021/cloudron-zeronet:v2.0.0

                    Not 100% sure it's done, because I still don't get Zeronet - excellent idea, but mostly old/stale sites, does anyone actually use Zeronet 🤷, maybe it's a "time to sync" issue, which I don't have enough patience for.

                    But check it out

                    Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS

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                    • timconsidineT timconsidine

                      @robi / others interested

                      I have revisited the Zeronet repo / build.
                      Should now be a working vanilla Zeronet Conservancy deployment.

                      v2.0.0
                      repo : https://git.cloudron.io/timconsidine/cloudron-zeronet

                      docker image : tcmbp132021/cloudron-zeronet:v2.0.0

                      Not 100% sure it's done, because I still don't get Zeronet - excellent idea, but mostly old/stale sites, does anyone actually use Zeronet 🤷, maybe it's a "time to sync" issue, which I don't have enough patience for.

                      But check it out

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                      wrote last edited by
                      #37

                      @timconsidine it installs fine thru CCAI-P but it seems still very broken.

                      Once entering the password, it doesn't even load the default home site (site dirs all empty, fails to dl/write anything? unusual), finds plenty of peers but otherwise errors.

                      Config page is configured better now, but plugins dir is not in /app/data/, good that it's not in /app/data/data though.

                      no bueno 🤷
                      thanks for trying

                      Conscious tech

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                        timconsidine
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                        wrote last edited by timconsidine
                        #38

                        @robi with respect, I think your system or network or Tor is “fsck-ed”.
                        Could something, another ZeroNet installed/running, be conflicting ?

                        Fresh install, new container.
                        The home page, now back to standard ZNC, loads in <5 seconds.
                        0name archive loads in <5 seconds.
                        AllnightBookstire loads in <5 seconds. (Longer for full sync)
                        Ditto for 0list.
                        Ditto for ZeroTalk and ZeroTalk Tech.
                        Ditto for ZeroSites.
                        Ditto for ZeroMail.

                        Others like Syncronite take longer due to the nature of P2P
                        Within 20 minutes the only site not yet loaded is 1Hello (ironic but other Zites are pulling a lot of content, don't know if that is relevant).

                        Screenshot 2026-03-08 at 09.38.15.png

                        If you want to suggest some Zites to check, happy to do this.
                        I hate saying this, but evidence is your experience is not an app issue.

                        Latest entry <9 hours ago :
                        Screenshot 2026-03-08 at 09.54.57.png

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