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  • robiR Offline
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    wrote on last edited by robi
    #23

    A big thanks to @Kubernetes for the collaboration and assistance during his busy day!

    The testing package is available here: https://git.cloudron.io/kubernetes/cloudron-zeronet

    @staff @AppDev please take a look at how to solve the websocket issue and tor finding its linked libraries that are in the same directory.

    tor starts successfully when the LD_LIBRARY_PATH is set to its location.

    If you'd like to know more about how it works, see the FAQ page -> https://zeronet.io/docs/faq/

    Conscious tech

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    • L Offline
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      wrote on last edited by
      #24

      Well done on advancing zeronet so far!
      I just thought I would mention this other thread here for those who like zeronnet:

      Lokinet
      https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/5824/lokinet-on-cloudron?_=1707942770501

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      • robiR robi

        A big thanks to @Kubernetes for the collaboration and assistance during his busy day!

        The testing package is available here: https://git.cloudron.io/kubernetes/cloudron-zeronet

        @staff @AppDev please take a look at how to solve the websocket issue and tor finding its linked libraries that are in the same directory.

        tor starts successfully when the LD_LIBRARY_PATH is set to its location.

        If you'd like to know more about how it works, see the FAQ page -> https://zeronet.io/docs/faq/

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        Lanhild
        App Dev
        wrote on last edited by
        #25

        @robi said in ZeroNet:

        please take a look at how to solve the websocket issue and tor finding its linked libraries that are in the same directory.

        Thanks for the heads up. I don't have enough knowledge about this aspect to help though.

        Next time, consider not mentioning staff or app devs groups, as it sends an email to each members by default. I'm sure the people that wish to contribute would regardless of a notification 🙂

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        • LanhildL Lanhild

          @robi said in ZeroNet:

          please take a look at how to solve the websocket issue and tor finding its linked libraries that are in the same directory.

          Thanks for the heads up. I don't have enough knowledge about this aspect to help though.

          Next time, consider not mentioning staff or app devs groups, as it sends an email to each members by default. I'm sure the people that wish to contribute would regardless of a notification 🙂

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          wrote on last edited by
          #26

          @Lanhild Thanks for the note, didn't know it emailed.

          Conscious tech

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          • timconsidineT Offline
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            wrote last edited by timconsidine
            #27

            I published a custom app for ZeroNet :

            https://git.cloudron.io/timconsidine/cloudron-zeronet

            not yet published to CCAI master catalogue
            Now added to CCAI master catalogue, and public docker image at tcmbp132021/cloudron-zeronet:latest

            This is based on Zeronet Conservancy repo as the original Zeronet seems to unmainted.

            I confess that I am far from an expert on Zeronet.
            The POSTINSTALL in the app dashboard has some links for learning.

            Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS

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              wrote last edited by timconsidine
              #28

              pushed a new version v1.0.63

              Test site : 191CazMVNaAcT9Y1zhkxd9ixMBPs59g2um

              tweaked : v1.0.64

              Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS

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              • timconsidineT timconsidine

                pushed a new version v1.0.63

                Test site : 191CazMVNaAcT9Y1zhkxd9ixMBPs59g2um

                tweaked : v1.0.64

                robiR Offline
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                wrote last edited by robi
                #29

                @timconsidine it's missing an expected directory structure where all sites go to /app/data/data/

                The first zite it loads is it's ZeroHello site: something like 1GnACK...../content.json

                The TOR ports need opening up.
                It can't seem to reach trackers either.
                it needs to be able to edit it's own config file for it's own autodetections as well as when adjusting things from the webUI.

                Pull down log shows some of what I mentioned:

                Displaying 243 of 243 lines found in the last 32kB of the log file. (71kB total)
                [2026-02-13 15:24:29,933] WARNING PeerPortchecker checkIpv6scanner check error: URLError: <urlopen error timed out> in PeerPortchecker.py line 49 > 144 > 28 > <urllib>/request.py line 215 > 515 > 532 > 492 > 1373 > 1347 in 20.105s
                [2026-02-13 15:24:29,934] INFO ConnServer Server port opened ipv4: False, ipv6: False
                [2026-02-13 15:24:29,938] DEBUG ConnServer External ip found on interfaces: fd00:c107:d509::57
                [2026-02-13 15:24:29,938] DEBUG TorManager Start onions
                [2026-02-13 15:24:29,940] DEBUG TorManager > ADD_ONION NEW:ED25519-V3 port=15441
                [2026-02-13 15:24:30,219] DEBUG TorManager < 250-ServiceID=svwuljx6fxdadufrsxgudnvsatf5tepvr3xqien2lettldygoilu5xad
                250-PrivateKey=ED25519-V3:0MxDGrbMTtSd4IN8UiuFls8NPmBL4jRJw4erms8xJ1nIUgG/JwLjmOF1YXsd2tHczYeINPo+A/sQbbeR7zZJLw==
                250 OK
                [2026-02-13 15:24:30,220] DEBUG TorManager Created new hidden service for global: svwuljx6fxdadufrsxgudnvsatf5tepvr3xqien2lettldygoilu5xad
                [2026-02-13 15:24:30,220] DEBUG ConnServer Checksites done in 21.818s
                [2026-02-13 15:24:30,254] DEBUG Ui.UiServer 172.18.0.1 - - [2026-02-13 15:24:30] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 1699 0.000542
                [2026-02-13 15:24:31,390] DEBUG Site:1GnACK..PDnF Recent peers 0 of 0 (need: 20)
                [2026-02-13 15:24:31,391] DEBUG Site:1GnACK..PDnF Pex result: from 0 peers got 0 new peers.
                [2026-02-13 15:24:33,413] DEBUG Site:1GnACK..PDnF Tracker http://tracker.opentrackr.org:1337/announce announce failed: URLError: <urlopen error timed out> in SiteAnnouncer.py line 201 > AnnounceBitTorrentPlugin.py line 129 > 94 > <urllib>/request.py line 215 > 515 > 532 > 492 > 1373 > 1347 in mode start
                [2026-02-13 15:24:38,185] DEBUG Ui.UiServer 172.18.0.1 - - [2026-02-13 15:24:38] "GET /191CazMVNaAcT9Y1zhkxd9ixMBPs59g2um/ HTTP/1.1" 200 1699 0.000810
                [2026-02-13 15:24:39,360] DEBUG Ui.UiServer 172.18.0.1 - - [2026-02-13 15:24:39] "GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 200 270651 0.012992
                [2026-02-13 15:24:40,503] DEBUG Ui.UiServer 172.18.0.1 - - [2026-02-13 15:24:40] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 1699 0.000644
                ...
                [2026-02-13 15:29:09,406] DEBUG Site:1GnACK..PDnF Content.json not exist: ./data/1GnACKctkJrGWHTqxk9T9zXo2bLQc2PDnF/content.json
                [2026-02-13 15:29:12,773] DEBUG Site:1GnACK..PDnF Tracker failed, skipping to next one...
                [2026-02-13 15:29:14,408] DEBUG Site:1GnACK..PDnF CheckModifications: Waiting for peers...
                

                There's no need to package the separate admin pw, since it's in the config file.

                If you do a local install on your computer, you'll see what I mean in terms of dir structure and how it works when you watch the log.
                It downloads it's homepage from peers it connects to from trackers who have a list of peers.

                More on the ZeroNet Docs website:
                https://demo.zeronet.io/docs/

                Online proxyies still functioning:
                https://0net-preview.com/
                https://zero.acelewis.com/

                This proxy is really what we're setting up here since it's self-hosted in Cloudron. Here's an example set of instructions to install it as a proxy: https://bondarenko.xyz/zeroproxy.html

                Conscious tech

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                • robiR robi

                  @timconsidine it's missing an expected directory structure where all sites go to /app/data/data/

                  The first zite it loads is it's ZeroHello site: something like 1GnACK...../content.json

                  The TOR ports need opening up.
                  It can't seem to reach trackers either.
                  it needs to be able to edit it's own config file for it's own autodetections as well as when adjusting things from the webUI.

                  Pull down log shows some of what I mentioned:

                  Displaying 243 of 243 lines found in the last 32kB of the log file. (71kB total)
                  [2026-02-13 15:24:29,933] WARNING PeerPortchecker checkIpv6scanner check error: URLError: <urlopen error timed out> in PeerPortchecker.py line 49 > 144 > 28 > <urllib>/request.py line 215 > 515 > 532 > 492 > 1373 > 1347 in 20.105s
                  [2026-02-13 15:24:29,934] INFO ConnServer Server port opened ipv4: False, ipv6: False
                  [2026-02-13 15:24:29,938] DEBUG ConnServer External ip found on interfaces: fd00:c107:d509::57
                  [2026-02-13 15:24:29,938] DEBUG TorManager Start onions
                  [2026-02-13 15:24:29,940] DEBUG TorManager > ADD_ONION NEW:ED25519-V3 port=15441
                  [2026-02-13 15:24:30,219] DEBUG TorManager < 250-ServiceID=svwuljx6fxdadufrsxgudnvsatf5tepvr3xqien2lettldygoilu5xad
                  250-PrivateKey=ED25519-V3:0MxDGrbMTtSd4IN8UiuFls8NPmBL4jRJw4erms8xJ1nIUgG/JwLjmOF1YXsd2tHczYeINPo+A/sQbbeR7zZJLw==
                  250 OK
                  [2026-02-13 15:24:30,220] DEBUG TorManager Created new hidden service for global: svwuljx6fxdadufrsxgudnvsatf5tepvr3xqien2lettldygoilu5xad
                  [2026-02-13 15:24:30,220] DEBUG ConnServer Checksites done in 21.818s
                  [2026-02-13 15:24:30,254] DEBUG Ui.UiServer 172.18.0.1 - - [2026-02-13 15:24:30] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 1699 0.000542
                  [2026-02-13 15:24:31,390] DEBUG Site:1GnACK..PDnF Recent peers 0 of 0 (need: 20)
                  [2026-02-13 15:24:31,391] DEBUG Site:1GnACK..PDnF Pex result: from 0 peers got 0 new peers.
                  [2026-02-13 15:24:33,413] DEBUG Site:1GnACK..PDnF Tracker http://tracker.opentrackr.org:1337/announce announce failed: URLError: <urlopen error timed out> in SiteAnnouncer.py line 201 > AnnounceBitTorrentPlugin.py line 129 > 94 > <urllib>/request.py line 215 > 515 > 532 > 492 > 1373 > 1347 in mode start
                  [2026-02-13 15:24:38,185] DEBUG Ui.UiServer 172.18.0.1 - - [2026-02-13 15:24:38] "GET /191CazMVNaAcT9Y1zhkxd9ixMBPs59g2um/ HTTP/1.1" 200 1699 0.000810
                  [2026-02-13 15:24:39,360] DEBUG Ui.UiServer 172.18.0.1 - - [2026-02-13 15:24:39] "GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 200 270651 0.012992
                  [2026-02-13 15:24:40,503] DEBUG Ui.UiServer 172.18.0.1 - - [2026-02-13 15:24:40] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 1699 0.000644
                  ...
                  [2026-02-13 15:29:09,406] DEBUG Site:1GnACK..PDnF Content.json not exist: ./data/1GnACKctkJrGWHTqxk9T9zXo2bLQc2PDnF/content.json
                  [2026-02-13 15:29:12,773] DEBUG Site:1GnACK..PDnF Tracker failed, skipping to next one...
                  [2026-02-13 15:29:14,408] DEBUG Site:1GnACK..PDnF CheckModifications: Waiting for peers...
                  

                  There's no need to package the separate admin pw, since it's in the config file.

                  If you do a local install on your computer, you'll see what I mean in terms of dir structure and how it works when you watch the log.
                  It downloads it's homepage from peers it connects to from trackers who have a list of peers.

                  More on the ZeroNet Docs website:
                  https://demo.zeronet.io/docs/

                  Online proxyies still functioning:
                  https://0net-preview.com/
                  https://zero.acelewis.com/

                  This proxy is really what we're setting up here since it's self-hosted in Cloudron. Here's an example set of instructions to install it as a proxy: https://bondarenko.xyz/zeroproxy.html

                  timconsidineT Offline
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                  timconsidine
                  App Dev
                  wrote last edited by
                  #30

                  @robi investigating ....

                  Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS

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                    timconsidine
                    App Dev
                    wrote last edited by timconsidine
                    #31

                    released v1.0.76

                    • 'data' folder was not missing - just mapped directly to (i.e. included in /app/data) - but changed to /app/data/data - "clumsy" but more conventional for zeronet maybe

                    • Tor enabled in / out

                    I dislike the conventional 0net approach of hosting a default standard home page from another site - confusing to new users in my view - so I made my own home page which is clearer (but can be fleshed out or adapted further if needed), with links to the standard sites included for conventionality.

                    Highly recommend a new install in new container for testing (and live use) as many small changes. 1 line install :

                    curl -fsSL https://customappgateway.appx.uk/install.sh | bash -s -- --install-app "zeronet"

                    Screenshot 2026-02-14 at 13.15.11.png

                    Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS

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                    • timconsidineT timconsidine

                      released v1.0.76

                      • 'data' folder was not missing - just mapped directly to (i.e. included in /app/data) - but changed to /app/data/data - "clumsy" but more conventional for zeronet maybe

                      • Tor enabled in / out

                      I dislike the conventional 0net approach of hosting a default standard home page from another site - confusing to new users in my view - so I made my own home page which is clearer (but can be fleshed out or adapted further if needed), with links to the standard sites included for conventionality.

                      Highly recommend a new install in new container for testing (and live use) as many small changes. 1 line install :

                      curl -fsSL https://customappgateway.appx.uk/install.sh | bash -s -- --install-app "zeronet"

                      Screenshot 2026-02-14 at 13.15.11.png

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                      robi
                      wrote last edited by robi
                      #32

                      @timconsidine said in ZeroNet:

                      released v1.0.76

                      Thank you!

                      • 'data' folder was not missing - just mapped directly to (i.e. included in /app/data) - but changed to /app/data/data - "clumsy" but more conventional for zeronet maybe

                      Alright, that data/ dir is the expected place by the code. It has very specific reasons for that structure, just like public_html/ does. Some things do not go in there, like the config file, as it is then writable from the web. But the Geolite DB is expected there, or the right menu breaks (drag the 0 menu left) the world.

                      • Tor enabled in / out

                      You set the Tor option to Always, instead of Enabled, so it will funnel ALL requests through tor, not just the Tor connections. This is going to make things very slow.

                      I dislike the conventional 0net approach of hosting a default standard home page from another site - confusing to new users in my view - so I made my own home page which is clearer (but can be fleshed out or adapted further if needed), with links to the standard sites included for conventionality.

                      Oh, that totally defeats the purpose as the magic of Zeronet is it's default homepage. It's not static as it keeps track of the sites you visit and let's you know of new posts in forums, blogs, etc. It's the lifeblood of the Zeronet experience. Changing it removes that magic.

                      Each fork has it's own default page since there are specifics linked to it like new versions of old zites that no longer work or new ID sites, etc. Important to keep it.

                      One should be able to change and update the UI password as well. Doesn't seem possible at the moment, hardcoded?

                      The plugins dir is also missing or not linked to /app/data/, which is how features get turned on and off in Zeronet, by renaming of these plugin dirs.

                      Right now I can't seem to browse to anywhere and it keeps asking for the UI pw for every zite. Missing plugins.

                      Getting closer to functional!

                      Please restore the vanilla install experience.

                      Conscious tech

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                        App Dev
                        wrote last edited by timconsidine
                        #33

                        Right now I can't seem to browse to anywhere and it keeps asking for the UI pw for every zite. Missing plugins.

                        • Strange
                          I have been clicking away randomly without any real issues - just sites that seems to have no new content for 5+ years

                        • ZeroBlog (on original home page) : no new content since December 31, 2019

                        • I haven't been asked for the password once after initial login

                        Changing it removes that magic.

                        My homepage keeps track of where I visited
                        Not sure of new blog posts as I haven't joined any yet

                        It's the lifeblood of the Zeronet experience.

                        But it is so darned ugly !

                        Will do some more investigating, but back on trying to make Dify work in Cloudron

                        ✅ The original home page is still available as link from my home page - maybe that will provide the blog post stuff ? Will try to check

                        Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS

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