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    wrote last edited by
    #1

    Hello

    I have noticed that I can't receive email from external services (like gmail, office365 etc). I mostly use the email service for own specific things (Cloudron apps), and mail sent via Cloudron's delivery works fine. But mail from external service providers doesn't come through. I've tested sending from both gmail.com and live.com addresses. None work.

    I ran the Cloudron troubleshooter, and that tells me everything is ok.

    [OK]	node version is correct
    [OK]	IPv6 is enabled in kernel. No public IPv6 address
    [OK]	docker is running
    [OK]	docker version is correct
    [OK]	MySQL is running
    [OK]	netplan is good
    [OK]	DNS is resolving via systemd-resolved
    [OK]	unbound is running
    [OK]	nginx is running
    [OK]	dashboard cert is valid
    [OK]	dashboard is reachable via loopback
    [OK]	No pending database migrations
    [OK]	Service 'mysql' is running and healthy
    [OK]	Service 'postgresql' is running and healthy
    [OK]	Service 'mongodb' is running and healthy
    [OK]	Service 'mail' is running and healthy
    [OK]	Service 'graphite' is running and healthy
    [OK]	Service 'sftp' is running and healthy
    [OK]	box v9.1.5 is running
    [OK]	Dashboard is reachable via domain name
    [WARN]	Domain my.domainename expiry check skipped because whois does not have this information
    

    Here's the log from an undelivered mail sent from a Google account. I chose this to test an n8n workflow with two mail address recipients, one gmail address and one address for my Cloudron. I know the mail is sent, because I received to email addressed to my gmail account, but the copy sent to my Cloudron domain (self hosted) is undelivered. I have tried to anonymize the headers by removing the mail addresses, domain name and ip address. Let me know if you need these:

    Reporting-MTA: dns; googlemail.com
    Arrival-Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2026 03:34:41 -0700 (PDT)
    X-Original-Message-ID: <CAG-=ztFbapQFcHFM3-5RFk3UNXteT+y-zLURxVg2qt5E3xGjbQ@mail.gmail.com>
    
    Final-Recipient: rfc822; my-e-mail@cloudron-hosted-domain
    Action: delayed
    Status: 4.4.1
    Diagnostic-Code: smtp; The recipient server did not accept our requests to connect. For more information, go to https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7720
    [cloudron.domain.address. cloudron.domain.ip: timed out]
    Last-Attempt-Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2026 06:07:53 -0700 (PDT)
    Will-Retry-Until: Sat, 04 Apr 2026 03:34:41 -0700 (PDT)
    ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1775135213; cv=none;
           d=google.com; s=arc-20240605;
           b=bL/6dDqeqK2qYkXqqe7fYUCBrZ2b0+SmUG0S2EMaOIbX97QvtexoqsyFJRFMZRBViL
            Cxllz7/WqGTLVskzbkErO+t23tScVLypdXOHxWh/DIgy0PJKcodTfjX+LnFy0SBS+kWw
            494rA1ocmKFgS+U+3dFJZ046eLy5bL8sM7bqplCLFzQVyyVBkcjtZOAebsV+E7EgJ/VS
            Fxk/rbxKVWWAeT7m9VTZLY++lEU7qtOG4DLsnnEXaa6cSzez5usyz6RmS8gnk5L6/6j+
            mV5Vk8AZHCvOyaa0ZXf0SXqiKEnv7CvbZWbU8wwMGauvfoaZ5lSuTbFoirP1rAushlq3
            gF1Q==
    ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20240605;
           h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:dkim-signature;
           bh=hOd3S/vxaC77xcBp+F70rioo4lFCYJ1j1z6r0u3/2LA=;
           fh=xFLExUQpO7iut+1J5YZCxMf6a4gpJhZadTj6ynd8yr4=;
           b=lS2L/KeL3n1HPprQQMYFef4lrIIiyL6TU17RM76kHDYaSmXSndk754HTgEfi2kvmgh
            rfoJs44QsXpejs8rXMNaDtT/HcL8gba5w2W58TiF2rDcNsISpCO1a5S2RTbEKarN9mLE
            pQNsqeCtxO9M25+SqcaoO6lz79zex8FeSV5IrjpiVtOQcRCg6l25rSXYDdbmRO1XhpCQ
            hoS6zpvjQamPmE2bSCBhyvFd2yHZWpzJn5kBcdrQ1EGs4LxTD9X5OkuQMifa2Ren9PxP
            dCAekKNVwZb3CPNEUOpXtkISgLeY5hv714snz8WTKLqynPGV8r6BAd5rqjsLmkiLjWq6
            dH8g==;
           darn=ocano.org
    ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; arc=none
    DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
           d=ocano.no; s=google; t=1775135213; x=1775740013; darn=ocano.org;
           h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject
            :date:message-id:reply-to;
           bh=hOd3S/vxaC77xcBp+F70rioo4lFCYJ1j1z6r0u3/2LA=;
           b=SHxyZCo8N1GX8ZqRfHY10Z5apx14xqJ7zQUYF/rxBnWvjr0tXDmwzQbLa5vFG//IIH
            Pl9r5NImQRGPgbirVVNd8/3Hbo+LgsROjPqwuu3YukQ3Zlo7pyCxocZNd5D/mTXtPMu/
            AqQnNPczHwFYCtIyLTzVyYgM8WZlQ8tNxk0pPSnem+H0El/oSmJ2mTohcVj3ACFtvjHb
            ECVolIYiIYsWeZpZtUDhDcDzvHqAMUM8Qe/vFeQjEYT7SjchAZjSjb8lkQGim4JJ+r4y
            PDHo3A3YGnxOXkKUm4AavtnRZtIFqCuvv4Pg24D8Ml3hWkINQow48xrOZkyYn5OocMeh
            wFTQ==
    X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
           d=1e100.net; s=20251104; t=1775135213; x=1775740013;
           h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:x-gm-gg
            :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to;
           bh=hOd3S/vxaC77xcBp+F70rioo4lFCYJ1j1z6r0u3/2LA=;
           b=shtb79Z9iseewp554cHd1jfWqOickpNfWnHTnO5IGh0dgko8Nfj/EI8zmaW6UlXSb5
            tnMhx+CE9mas89SCuioq8TpRgOYHarxeF3vdlHqki/cSODNvoP6VbzI5FcCuxHmGjA+i
            bP+L3O5MMuIughyH5zReONBJiKsoMFxdoh0GpCUG+r4Q9Fwkh3iC6eKxr1jN/bKTGofh
            T9K2lBlZIU2g1HkTj5nf+C+azZYRQLFvDCGZwBTYUxo/vkK2/8mJnXaoBoDQ79/zb29o
            l4fLbJQukUmpe25jw4MnWyiTMfSfnBGCXlN0nQIwxFi/Ovl/2AbdQ+ey/b9zmZu/+uDe
            PnYQ==
    X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCVHPy6AG3BpmqV4UzUfuT5iuVHFlhDEiw67SG0HVDTL5pTpvx0+RNWxUfbItaHLV9Y48mlgT4UK@ocano.org
    X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxMaVMWC9yzoma0H7cVT3D5S6wuxAm2z/FXkd/6Yr45xK9cvMHG
    	0utzZjeduKK1eXCcYQbbWMkvuNawT7nPJu1kc4YsGzFpbQdXp/i9CqaKkNGHsz2LGWph2ERd6h1
    	nu1MIIsmpvBGO2cNDfbkkxFba2JLDKcJJ1Aji1bCfLYZ+CVUCsRxh8R8=
    X-Gm-Gg: ATEYQzwjm2u9KIVKbehrz1nlfPFgK9pyVjVxBr0v6w4VuIDgcMdOaclozhRuMBJBb5R
    	664/BcRqKYMwgihz+P3kLuwU2C3GuYrMuY2rEZJZ/I8Q/yMry+ex4FOtR7ta9+LAT7OoL6m6vp5
    	E3y4HSbSAX3BTPRBkGXmJb/ByPcHYB7xDJSjVsRX1ThrCVvfm2LzZqA/yPxrW6iClEi6MEQkd9x
    	EnyB9Z+jr8SZ0kazyUCp5W8L7mv2fXaCEx3xB+EO8KizuXjk44Fj3QxbYNX11b2IUE7X5YyvonQ
    	AmLnU8p7
    X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:1388:b0:5a2:b514:4fbb with SMTP id
    2adb3069b0e04-5a2c2109806mr1380632e87.11.1775039681610; Wed, 01 Apr 2026
    03:34:41 -0700 (PDT)
    Received: from 1066260365263 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with
    HTTPREST; Wed, 1 Apr 2026 03:34:40 -0700
    Received: from 1066260365263 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with
    HTTPREST; Wed, 1 Apr 2026 03:34:40 -0700
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    From: oddgeir@ocano.no
    Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2026 03:34:40 -0700
    X-Gm-Features: AQROBzC58mMCN5sKP30LQKYOrMJIgzCMHAJUt1i5vFiZFe9Vyyf_psEcP_buESA
    Message-ID: <CAG-=ztFbapQFcHFM3-5RFk3UNXteT+y-zLURxVg2qt5E3xGjbQ@mail.gmail.com>
    Subject: n8n Workflow Failure: Example Workflow
    To: my-email@gmail.com, my-e-mail@cloudron-hosted-domain
    Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
    

    I plan on trying to troubleshoot tomorrow (I get family over for an Easter gathering now), so any help/tips will be much appreciated.

    jamesJ 1 Reply Last reply
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    • O odie

      Hello

      I have noticed that I can't receive email from external services (like gmail, office365 etc). I mostly use the email service for own specific things (Cloudron apps), and mail sent via Cloudron's delivery works fine. But mail from external service providers doesn't come through. I've tested sending from both gmail.com and live.com addresses. None work.

      I ran the Cloudron troubleshooter, and that tells me everything is ok.

      [OK]	node version is correct
      [OK]	IPv6 is enabled in kernel. No public IPv6 address
      [OK]	docker is running
      [OK]	docker version is correct
      [OK]	MySQL is running
      [OK]	netplan is good
      [OK]	DNS is resolving via systemd-resolved
      [OK]	unbound is running
      [OK]	nginx is running
      [OK]	dashboard cert is valid
      [OK]	dashboard is reachable via loopback
      [OK]	No pending database migrations
      [OK]	Service 'mysql' is running and healthy
      [OK]	Service 'postgresql' is running and healthy
      [OK]	Service 'mongodb' is running and healthy
      [OK]	Service 'mail' is running and healthy
      [OK]	Service 'graphite' is running and healthy
      [OK]	Service 'sftp' is running and healthy
      [OK]	box v9.1.5 is running
      [OK]	Dashboard is reachable via domain name
      [WARN]	Domain my.domainename expiry check skipped because whois does not have this information
      

      Here's the log from an undelivered mail sent from a Google account. I chose this to test an n8n workflow with two mail address recipients, one gmail address and one address for my Cloudron. I know the mail is sent, because I received to email addressed to my gmail account, but the copy sent to my Cloudron domain (self hosted) is undelivered. I have tried to anonymize the headers by removing the mail addresses, domain name and ip address. Let me know if you need these:

      Reporting-MTA: dns; googlemail.com
      Arrival-Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2026 03:34:41 -0700 (PDT)
      X-Original-Message-ID: <CAG-=ztFbapQFcHFM3-5RFk3UNXteT+y-zLURxVg2qt5E3xGjbQ@mail.gmail.com>
      
      Final-Recipient: rfc822; my-e-mail@cloudron-hosted-domain
      Action: delayed
      Status: 4.4.1
      Diagnostic-Code: smtp; The recipient server did not accept our requests to connect. For more information, go to https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7720
      [cloudron.domain.address. cloudron.domain.ip: timed out]
      Last-Attempt-Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2026 06:07:53 -0700 (PDT)
      Will-Retry-Until: Sat, 04 Apr 2026 03:34:41 -0700 (PDT)
      ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1775135213; cv=none;
             d=google.com; s=arc-20240605;
             b=bL/6dDqeqK2qYkXqqe7fYUCBrZ2b0+SmUG0S2EMaOIbX97QvtexoqsyFJRFMZRBViL
              Cxllz7/WqGTLVskzbkErO+t23tScVLypdXOHxWh/DIgy0PJKcodTfjX+LnFy0SBS+kWw
              494rA1ocmKFgS+U+3dFJZ046eLy5bL8sM7bqplCLFzQVyyVBkcjtZOAebsV+E7EgJ/VS
              Fxk/rbxKVWWAeT7m9VTZLY++lEU7qtOG4DLsnnEXaa6cSzez5usyz6RmS8gnk5L6/6j+
              mV5Vk8AZHCvOyaa0ZXf0SXqiKEnv7CvbZWbU8wwMGauvfoaZ5lSuTbFoirP1rAushlq3
              gF1Q==
      ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20240605;
             h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:dkim-signature;
             bh=hOd3S/vxaC77xcBp+F70rioo4lFCYJ1j1z6r0u3/2LA=;
             fh=xFLExUQpO7iut+1J5YZCxMf6a4gpJhZadTj6ynd8yr4=;
             b=lS2L/KeL3n1HPprQQMYFef4lrIIiyL6TU17RM76kHDYaSmXSndk754HTgEfi2kvmgh
              rfoJs44QsXpejs8rXMNaDtT/HcL8gba5w2W58TiF2rDcNsISpCO1a5S2RTbEKarN9mLE
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              hoS6zpvjQamPmE2bSCBhyvFd2yHZWpzJn5kBcdrQ1EGs4LxTD9X5OkuQMifa2Ren9PxP
              dCAekKNVwZb3CPNEUOpXtkISgLeY5hv714snz8WTKLqynPGV8r6BAd5rqjsLmkiLjWq6
              dH8g==;
             darn=ocano.org
      ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; arc=none
      DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
             d=ocano.no; s=google; t=1775135213; x=1775740013; darn=ocano.org;
             h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject
              :date:message-id:reply-to;
             bh=hOd3S/vxaC77xcBp+F70rioo4lFCYJ1j1z6r0u3/2LA=;
             b=SHxyZCo8N1GX8ZqRfHY10Z5apx14xqJ7zQUYF/rxBnWvjr0tXDmwzQbLa5vFG//IIH
              Pl9r5NImQRGPgbirVVNd8/3Hbo+LgsROjPqwuu3YukQ3Zlo7pyCxocZNd5D/mTXtPMu/
              AqQnNPczHwFYCtIyLTzVyYgM8WZlQ8tNxk0pPSnem+H0El/oSmJ2mTohcVj3ACFtvjHb
              ECVolIYiIYsWeZpZtUDhDcDzvHqAMUM8Qe/vFeQjEYT7SjchAZjSjb8lkQGim4JJ+r4y
              PDHo3A3YGnxOXkKUm4AavtnRZtIFqCuvv4Pg24D8Ml3hWkINQow48xrOZkyYn5OocMeh
              wFTQ==
      X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
             d=1e100.net; s=20251104; t=1775135213; x=1775740013;
             h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:x-gm-gg
              :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to;
             bh=hOd3S/vxaC77xcBp+F70rioo4lFCYJ1j1z6r0u3/2LA=;
             b=shtb79Z9iseewp554cHd1jfWqOickpNfWnHTnO5IGh0dgko8Nfj/EI8zmaW6UlXSb5
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              l4fLbJQukUmpe25jw4MnWyiTMfSfnBGCXlN0nQIwxFi/Ovl/2AbdQ+ey/b9zmZu/+uDe
              PnYQ==
      X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCVHPy6AG3BpmqV4UzUfuT5iuVHFlhDEiw67SG0HVDTL5pTpvx0+RNWxUfbItaHLV9Y48mlgT4UK@ocano.org
      X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxMaVMWC9yzoma0H7cVT3D5S6wuxAm2z/FXkd/6Yr45xK9cvMHG
      	0utzZjeduKK1eXCcYQbbWMkvuNawT7nPJu1kc4YsGzFpbQdXp/i9CqaKkNGHsz2LGWph2ERd6h1
      	nu1MIIsmpvBGO2cNDfbkkxFba2JLDKcJJ1Aji1bCfLYZ+CVUCsRxh8R8=
      X-Gm-Gg: ATEYQzwjm2u9KIVKbehrz1nlfPFgK9pyVjVxBr0v6w4VuIDgcMdOaclozhRuMBJBb5R
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      	AmLnU8p7
      X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:1388:b0:5a2:b514:4fbb with SMTP id
      2adb3069b0e04-5a2c2109806mr1380632e87.11.1775039681610; Wed, 01 Apr 2026
      03:34:41 -0700 (PDT)
      Received: from 1066260365263 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with
      HTTPREST; Wed, 1 Apr 2026 03:34:40 -0700
      Received: from 1066260365263 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with
      HTTPREST; Wed, 1 Apr 2026 03:34:40 -0700
      MIME-Version: 1.0
      From: oddgeir@ocano.no
      Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2026 03:34:40 -0700
      X-Gm-Features: AQROBzC58mMCN5sKP30LQKYOrMJIgzCMHAJUt1i5vFiZFe9Vyyf_psEcP_buESA
      Message-ID: <CAG-=ztFbapQFcHFM3-5RFk3UNXteT+y-zLURxVg2qt5E3xGjbQ@mail.gmail.com>
      Subject: n8n Workflow Failure: Example Workflow
      To: my-email@gmail.com, my-e-mail@cloudron-hosted-domain
      Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
      

      I plan on trying to troubleshoot tomorrow (I get family over for an Easter gathering now), so any help/tips will be much appreciated.

      jamesJ Online
      jamesJ Online
      james
      Staff
      wrote last edited by
      #2

      Hello @odie

      @odie said:

      but the copy sent to my Cloudron domain (self hosted) is undelivered

      So the issue is only when you send from Cloudron and CC your own Cloudron?
      I am a little confused by the set up and could need some clarification.

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        wrote last edited by
        #3

        This is at least 2 different issues:

        1. failures from Gmail to ocano domain (which should have bounces at Gmail)

        2. self-hosted n8n to Gmail (which works reportedly) AND a local ocano mailbox (which doesn't)

        Conscious tech

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