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What's coming in Cloudron 10

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  • jamesJ james

    Hello @mononym
    From just a quick read of the description of the repository I would lean towards no.
    Cloudron uses haraka as the underlying Mailserver which we also contribute to regularly and Chatmail is a full Mailserver which would be conflicting.

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    @james @mononym unless chatmail can delegate and use Haraka instead?

    Conscious tech

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      would it -theoretically- be possible to and an alias service (like simplelogin.io or addy.io)?

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      • sponchS sponch

        would it -theoretically- be possible to and an alias service (like simplelogin.io or addy.io)?

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        @sponch I don't think so. Looks like cloudron is blocking Port 25 which is needed for receiving mail. Running into the same issues with my attempt at packaging stalwart

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          For external software (unsupported), you have to explicitly unblock ports - https://docs.cloudron.io/network/#whitelist-ports

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            For external software (unsupported), you have to explicitly unblock ports - https://docs.cloudron.io/network/#whitelist-ports

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            @Joseph No, the problem here is that to receive mail, I need to be able to route Port 25 to the app. But I think it's always reserved by the internal mail server?

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              @andreasdueren you are right, it is a reserved port .

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                The ability to delegate a subdomain out to an SMTP server hosted by an app has been discussed several times before. I'd quite like to package Mailman for Cloudron, but need a way of getting mail into Mailman itself. Mailman processes incoming mail via LMTP, but we could run an MTA on the app container if the app didn't support native SMTP. If we went that route I think it would be essential for Haraka to call forward to the SMTP server running in the container to avoid backscatter. I do run Mailman on my Cloudron instance for now in a completely unsupported manor and allow incoming SMTP via the Cloudron firewall as a custom port. This is working fine with Exim installed natively on the host, and I have a script to ensure the Nginx config for Mailman is in place. I really wouldn't recommend doing this yourself though and I'm also thinking of offloading the mailing lists to a third party provider at this point for various reasons.

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                • girishG girish

                  We will be working on the following in 9.2. mail server needs a bunch of housekeeping and fixes and will be the focus for this release.

                  Mail related:

                  • mail: allow cloudron email to be used as a mail relay. this will allow one cloudron to relay emails via another cloudron without having to disable mail from validation.
                  • mail: fix mail forwarding. there's been lots of bug reports on this feature. have to investigate the root cause
                  • mail: admin notes field for mailboxes and lists
                  • mail: housekeeping task. we want to move away from usage of ldap for auth entirely. many of the node ldap modules have become unmaintained
                  • mail: housekeeping task. the mail database is partly in box code and partly in mail server. have to move everything into mail server. this will help us implement backup/restore of mail nicely as well.
                  • mail: expose mailbox indexing and spam learning status in the UI

                  Non-mail related:

                  • Ubuntu 26.04 support
                  • Improved progress reporting - show percentage complete and elapsed/estimated time for backups and app installations
                  • Convert backup site creation dialog to a view
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                  girish said:

                  Ubuntu 26.04 support

                  This is now implemented in master. Required very minimal changes, mostly to the installation script and also fixing up the docker version.

                  Ubuntu 26.04 is slowly appearing in many VPS providers (linode, vultr, upcloud) but not in DigitalOcean yet. So, haven't tested it extensively.

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                    So new mail features are coming in 10 or 9.2 - I'm a bit confused 😉

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                      Initially we thought of 9.2 having those but since we wanted to release some things earlier, 9.2 was released with different features, so this thread shifted essentially to v10 now 🙂

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