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  • subvenS subven

    While I appreciate the upcoming mail related features and fixes, there is still one crucial feature left out that was talked about for years: Auto/Custom BCC for incoming/outgoing mail

    We need to make them archivable to comply with german GoBD law. Setting this at client level would not pass as the law requires seamless documentation without user influence. This is not limited to german law but is generally useful for any company that needs to document business processes comprehensively. I know a lot of companys and freelancers lacking DMS systems, mostly because its complicated and can be very expensive.

    Best case would be the ability to set global BCC per mailbox within Cloudron.

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    CRBear
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    @subven said:

    While I appreciate the upcoming mail related features and fixes, there is still one crucial feature left out that was talked about for years: Auto/Custom BCC for incoming/outgoing mail

    We need to make them archivable to comply with german GoBD law. Setting this at client level would not pass as the law requires seamless documentation without user influence. This is not limited to german law but is generally useful for any company that needs to document business processes comprehensively. I know a lot of companys and freelancers lacking DMS systems, mostly because its complicated and can be very expensive.

    Best case would be the ability to set global BCC per mailbox within Cloudron.

    Is there any update on when this feature will become available?

    A global/custom BCC setting per mailbox would be absolutely essential for us and is urgently needed, especially for reliable and seamless email archiving without depending on individual client-side settings.

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    • nebulonN
      nebulonN
      nebulon
      Staff
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      #65

      There are unfortunately no concrete plans to add this right now, but we do investigate this. For German GoBD law some "always BCC" is actually not a compliant way as I understand it, neither is using https://mail-archiver.org/ for example. The reason is that one has to archive in- and outbound emails on the transport and not storage (like mail archiver does) side of things. Which in our case means in haraka.

      We will continue to discuss this internally where an how this can be best and ideally most compliant implemented with Cloudron, but we are not there just yet.

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        CRBear
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        Thank you very much for your reply.

        In our case, our current requirement with Cloudron is simply to be able to archive outgoing emails from specialized applications on the server side, as unfortunately these applications do not support this functionality themselves (no CC / BCC).

        For our use case, it would therefore be completely sufficient to have an “Auto-BCC” function that can be configured for individual mailboxes, entirely without any legal context.

        Even a command-line workaround would be perfectly sufficient for us.

        Thank you very much!

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        • girishG girish

          girish said:

          Ubuntu 26.04 support

          We will have Ubuntu 26.04 LTS Resolute Raccoon support next release. I have managed to test this across most of the providers we support. We will have a guide during release time to upgrade manually from Ubuntu 24.04.

          Before someone asks, I don't know the ETA for Cloudron 10 yet, I think we will need 2-3 weeks more at least.

          necrevistonnezrN
          necrevistonnezrN
          necrevistonnezr
          Super Fan
          wrote on last edited by
          #67

          @girish said:

          girish said:

          Ubuntu 26.04 support

          We will have Ubuntu 26.04 LTS Resolute Raccoon support next release. I have managed to test this across most of the providers we support. We will have a guide during release time to upgrade manually from Ubuntu 24.04.

          As 10 is out - can you share your experience with upgrading to Ubuntu 26.04.?

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          • girishG girish

            Since we are getting swarmed by bots and crawlers (including our gitlab/forum/crm), we decided to include some features that will help in protecting apps. The first one is VPN protection. With this feature, people can access apps only via the VPN.

            In the network UI, there is a setting called "VPN protection". First enable the feature and select how to route the client traffic.

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            There is a per-app checkbox to VPN protect the app:

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            If you try to access mautic now without a VPN connection, you will see (placeholder):

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            With OpenVPN/Wireguard connection, you will see mautic .

            Of course, this feature is mostly useful for internal apps. For public facing apps (like ghost, gitlab, nodebb), we are working on a different solution.

            nottheendN
            nottheendN
            nottheend
            wrote on last edited by
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            @girish said:

            In the network UI, there is a setting called "VPN protection". First enable the feature and select how to route the client traffic.

            I love that feature! Thanks!

            The setting offers three options, but I can't find them explained in the docs. What is the difference between "Route only app traffic" and "Route all client traffic"?
            Where will the traffic be routed through for the "non-app traffic", if the option "only app traffic" is selected? Will the non app traffic be blocked then?

            Thanks!

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            • nottheendN nottheend

              @girish said:

              In the network UI, there is a setting called "VPN protection". First enable the feature and select how to route the client traffic.

              I love that feature! Thanks!

              The setting offers three options, but I can't find them explained in the docs. What is the difference between "Route only app traffic" and "Route all client traffic"?
              Where will the traffic be routed through for the "non-app traffic", if the option "only app traffic" is selected? Will the non app traffic be blocked then?

              Thanks!

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              p44
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              #69

              @nottheend @girish

              @nottheend said:

              In the network UI, there is a setting called "VPN protection". First enable the feature and select how to route the client traffic.

              This is a great feature. I hope it can be documented more thoroughly, to better understand how to benefit from it in all use cases and scenarios.

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              • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                @girish said:

                girish said:

                Ubuntu 26.04 support

                We will have Ubuntu 26.04 LTS Resolute Raccoon support next release. I have managed to test this across most of the providers we support. We will have a guide during release time to upgrade manually from Ubuntu 24.04.

                As 10 is out - can you share your experience with upgrading to Ubuntu 26.04.?

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                jayonrails
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                #70

                @necrevistonnezr sagte:

                As 10 is out - can you share your experience with upgrading to Ubuntu 26.04.?

                As there is no manual on how to do it on the Cloudron docs (see here for example) I would argue that this is not supported or tested yet, and only works for new installations.

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                • J jayonrails

                  @necrevistonnezr sagte:

                  As 10 is out - can you share your experience with upgrading to Ubuntu 26.04.?

                  As there is no manual on how to do it on the Cloudron docs (see here for example) I would argue that this is not supported or tested yet, and only works for new installations.

                  necrevistonnezrN
                  necrevistonnezrN
                  necrevistonnezr
                  Super Fan
                  wrote on last edited by necrevistonnezr
                  #71

                  @jayonrails It‘s literally in the post from girish that I cited above 🙂 : „We will have a guide during release time to upgrade manually from Ubuntu 24.04.“

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                  • girishG
                    girishG
                    girish
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #72

                    We will get the docs updated this week, mostly we were focusing on the getting the release out.

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                      adhodgson
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                      I did a server migration to Ubuntu 26.04 using the restore feature on a fresh install. This worked well but I just realised that when I ssh into the server its giving me the banner to log into the server to set it up. Its as if the restore process didn't complete correctly or the restore process didn't update the banner on successful completion. From my point of view all apps are up and working properly so I think this is a cosmetic issue only.

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                      • A adhodgson

                        I did a server migration to Ubuntu 26.04 using the restore feature on a fresh install. This worked well but I just realised that when I ssh into the server its giving me the banner to log into the server to set it up. Its as if the restore process didn't complete correctly or the restore process didn't update the banner on successful completion. From my point of view all apps are up and working properly so I think this is a cosmetic issue only.

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                        jayonrails
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                        #74

                        @adhodgson this is a known bug, follow up here: https://forum.cloudron.io/post/129287

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                        • girishG
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                          girish
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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #75

                          To give an update, docs are mostly updated. 10.0.5 has been published. There is now a Ubuntu 26 migration guide (but only follow this after updating to 10.0.5 !)

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                          • girishG girish

                            To give an update, docs are mostly updated. 10.0.5 has been published. There is now a Ubuntu 26 migration guide (but only follow this after updating to 10.0.5 !)

                            necrevistonnezrN
                            necrevistonnezrN
                            necrevistonnezr
                            Super Fan
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #76

                            @girish said:

                            To give an update, docs are mostly updated. 10.0.5 has been published. There is now a Ubuntu 26 migration guide (but only follow this after updating to 10.0.5 !)

                            Just run the upgrade to Ubuntu 26.04 according to the docs - just worked. Thanks!

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                            • girishG
                              girishG
                              girish
                              Staff
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                              Now that Cloudron 10 is out, I will lock this post.

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