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RustDesk - TeamViewer/AnyDesk alternative

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  • jamesJ james

    Hello @lukasp and welcome to the Cloudron forum

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    lukasp
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    #13

    @james said:

    Hello @lukasp and welcome to the Cloudron forum

    Hello and thank you James 🙂

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    • fbartelsF
      fbartelsF
      fbartels
      App Dev
      wrote on last edited by
      #14

      I looked into this a few weeks ago and since Rustdesk does not bring a web ui of its own I switched my investigation to https://github.com/UNITRONIX/BetterDesk instead. That project had its quirks as well (for example it never generated the custom install clients but also did not give me logging to investigate this), so I did not pursue this any further.

      But the code and a CloudronVersions.json can be found at https://git.9wd.eu/apps/cloudron-betterdesk for those that want to try it out and possibly continue with it.

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      • MiroTalkM
        MiroTalkM
        MiroTalk
        App Maintainer
        wrote last edited by MiroTalk
        #15

        Yeah, having RustDesk available on Cloudron would be great! 😊 Since MiroTalk SFU is already packaged for Cloudron and supports RustDesk remote control, it would be a nice addition to the ecosystem.

        MiroTalk SFU can enable this feature with the following env configuration:

        REMOTE_CONTROL_ENABLED=true
        REMOTE_CONTROL_DOWNLOAD_URL=https://rustdesk.com/
        

        Users can use the official RustDesk infrastructure or their own self-hosted RustDesk server (hbbs/hbbr) for remote sessions. This would be a great addition for anyone looking to combine self-hosted video conferencing with remote desktop support.

        Thank you!

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        • MiroTalkM MiroTalk

          Yeah, having RustDesk available on Cloudron would be great! 😊 Since MiroTalk SFU is already packaged for Cloudron and supports RustDesk remote control, it would be a nice addition to the ecosystem.

          MiroTalk SFU can enable this feature with the following env configuration:

          REMOTE_CONTROL_ENABLED=true
          REMOTE_CONTROL_DOWNLOAD_URL=https://rustdesk.com/
          

          Users can use the official RustDesk infrastructure or their own self-hosted RustDesk server (hbbs/hbbr) for remote sessions. This would be a great addition for anyone looking to combine self-hosted video conferencing with remote desktop support.

          Thank you!

          andreasduerenA
          andreasduerenA
          andreasdueren
          App Dev
          wrote last edited by
          #16

          @MiroTalk would you like to test this package to see if this works as intended with MiroTalk? https://git.due.ren/andreas/rustdesk-server-cloudron/-/raw/main/CloudronVersions.json

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          • andreasduerenA andreasdueren

            @MiroTalk would you like to test this package to see if this works as intended with MiroTalk? https://git.due.ren/andreas/rustdesk-server-cloudron/-/raw/main/CloudronVersions.json

            jdaviescoatesJ
            jdaviescoatesJ
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            #17

            @andreasdueren said:

            @MiroTalk would you like to test this package to see if this works as intended with MiroTalk? https://git.due.ren/andreas/rustdesk-server-cloudron/-/raw/main/CloudronVersions.json

            Is that new? I had a quick look at https://ca.cloudron.io/ and didn't see it there.

            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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            • andreasduerenA andreasdueren

              @MiroTalk would you like to test this package to see if this works as intended with MiroTalk? https://git.due.ren/andreas/rustdesk-server-cloudron/-/raw/main/CloudronVersions.json

              MiroTalkM
              MiroTalkM
              MiroTalk
              App Maintainer
              wrote last edited by
              #18

              @andreasdueren said:

              @MiroTalk would you like to test this package to see if this works as intended with MiroTalk? https://git.due.ren/andreas/rustdesk-server-cloudron/-/raw/main/CloudronVersions.json

              Yeah, I’ve just tested it, and it seems to work well with MiroTalk! 🙌

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              • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                @andreasdueren said:

                @MiroTalk would you like to test this package to see if this works as intended with MiroTalk? https://git.due.ren/andreas/rustdesk-server-cloudron/-/raw/main/CloudronVersions.json

                Is that new? I had a quick look at https://ca.cloudron.io/ and didn't see it there.

                andreasduerenA
                andreasduerenA
                andreasdueren
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                wrote last edited by
                #19

                @jdaviescoates I didn't publish this yet

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                • MiroTalkM
                  MiroTalkM
                  MiroTalk
                  App Maintainer
                  wrote last edited by MiroTalk
                  #20

                  One small concern: the /setup page is publicly accessible, so anyone can view the server address and public key and potentially use the server as their own RustDesk relay. It might be worth considering the best approach for sharing these connection details securely, while still allowing legitimate participants to connect easily. 🤔

                  Overall, the package looks great. Thanks again for your work on it!

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                  • MiroTalkM MiroTalk

                    One small concern: the /setup page is publicly accessible, so anyone can view the server address and public key and potentially use the server as their own RustDesk relay. It might be worth considering the best approach for sharing these connection details securely, while still allowing legitimate participants to connect easily. 🤔

                    Overall, the package looks great. Thanks again for your work on it!

                    andreasduerenA
                    andreasduerenA
                    andreasdueren
                    App Dev
                    wrote last edited by
                    #21

                    @MiroTalk Yes it's public, assuming the other person on the mirotalk call is a stranger. We could put that behind OIDC?

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                    • andreasduerenA andreasdueren

                      @MiroTalk Yes it's public, assuming the other person on the mirotalk call is a stranger. We could put that behind OIDC?

                      MiroTalkM
                      MiroTalkM
                      MiroTalk
                      App Maintainer
                      wrote last edited by MiroTalk
                      #22

                      @andreasdueren said:

                      We could put that behind OIDC?

                      Maybe I'd keep it as it is for now to ensure zero friction for end users. We can always consider additional access controls later if needed. Let me thinking about... Thanks!

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                      • timconsidineT
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                        timconsidine
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                        wrote last edited by timconsidine
                        #23

                        As there are so many bots, crawlers, spiders etc out there these days, I'd consider some level of protection, even if it is just conscious strong anti-bot. Not yet experimented with HeCAPTe (community app) but maybe that's something to consider for low user friction with a level of "go away" for bots & crawlers.

                        Indie app dev, scratching my itches : communityapps.appx.uk, portfolio at myca.appx.uk

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                        • robiR
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                          robi
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                          #24

                          It would be useful if the Cloudron nginx could proxy auth protected paths/routes defined in App packages and inject an allow list for logged in admins who installed it.

                          Frequency tech

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                          • MiroTalkM
                            MiroTalkM
                            MiroTalk
                            App Maintainer
                            wrote last edited by MiroTalk
                            #25

                            Self-Hosted RustDesk Configuration for MiroTalk SFU (Cloudron)

                            Docker image build in progress...
                            MiroTalk SFU v.2.6.14

                            Configure the following environment variables in your MiroTalk SFU env file to use your own RustDesk server hosted on Cloudron:

                            # Enable presenter remote control requests (true|false)
                            REMOTE_CONTROL_ENABLED=true                      
                            
                            # Allow public access to the setup page.
                            # true = anyone with the URL can access it
                            # false = access requires a valid token from a MiroTalk room request
                            REMOTE_CONTROL_DOWNLOAD_URL_PUBLIC=false
                            
                            # Leave it empty here
                            REMOTE_CONTROL_DOWNLOAD_URL=
                            
                            # RustDesk ID server hostname (e.g. rustdesk.example.com)
                            REMOTE_CONTROL_SERVER_HOST=
                            
                            # RustDesk server PUBLIC key (contents of id_ed25519.pub)
                            # Never use or expose the private key (id_ed25519).
                            REMOTE_CONTROL_SERVER_KEY=
                            

                            How It Works

                            By default, REMOTE_CONTROL_SETUP_PUBLIC=false, so access to the setup page requires a valid, room-bound token.

                            1. The presenter sends a remote-control request to a participant.
                            2. When the request is created, the server generates a signed token bound to the room, valid for 15 minutes.
                            3. The participant receives a Get RustDesk link pointing to /remote-control/setup?t=<token>.
                            4. The setup page validates the token. Requests with missing, invalid, forged, or expired tokens return 404 Not Found.

                            Optional: Public Setup Page

                            Set REMOTE_CONTROL_SETUP_PUBLIC=true to make the setup page publicly accessible without a token. Anyone with the URL can open it.

                            Security recommendation: Keep REMOTE_CONTROL_SETUP_PUBLIC=false to ensure setup links are time-limited and tied to the relevant room. This protects access to the setup page, while RustDesk relay security must still be configured separately.

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