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Please suggest a replacement for Nextcloud

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  • B bazinga

    @humpty With "notes" I was referring to a note taking app - I don't care for complex apps, I just want a way to take simple notes and have them easily available on mobile + desktop. I've been using Notes app + Nextcloud. But thanks, I'll look at those other apps you've mentioned.

    How exactly would I sync files via DavX5? I didn't think it supports that? It supports getting files, but not sync? And for me I really need to update a file on my desktop and see it on my phone. Also sharing with the family (other Cloudron users) is critical.

    humptyH
    humptyH
    humpty
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    #10

    @bazinga said:

    With "notes" I was referring to a note taking app - I don't care for complex apps, I just want a way to take simple notes and have them easily available on mobile + desktop.

    In that case, Joplin FTW.

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    • B bazinga

      @jdaviescoates That's exactly what prompted me to look what happened and AI Overview then told me Cloudron team is behind cubby.com and cubby.org was migrated to that.

      jdaviescoatesJ
      jdaviescoatesJ
      jdaviescoates
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      wrote last edited by
      #11

      @bazinga said:

      AI Overview then told me Cloudron team is behind cubby.com and cubby.org was migrated to that.

      Another example of AI just randomly guessing and being completely wrong.

      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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      • B bazinga

        Hi everyone,

        I really need few things:

        • Contacts
        • Calendar
        • Notes
        • Files
        • Access to all of the above from Android mobile devices, Linux and Windows desktops.
        • Ability to share files and calendars between Cloudron users.

        I've been using Nextcloud for a long while now. Big reason for me was support for the features plus very active development, which promises quick issue resolution (obviously a double edged sword).

        I've been thinking about a replacement every now and then, but never could find apps (well, Cloudron apps) that would satisfy these requirements - contacts and calendar is easy - seems like these are a dime a dozen; security focused file sharing with mobile/desktop access is not so much.

        Security is a very high priority, especially for the files part of it. Nextcloud doesn't support end-to-end encryption of files, which was a bit of a concern. With recent PHP issues this becomes a worry.

        Would appreciate any advice.

        timconsidineT
        timconsidineT
        timconsidine
        App Dev CA Maintainer Super Fan
        wrote last edited by
        #12

        @bazinga have a look at Sync-in (Community App) : https://ca.cloudron.io/app/io.timconsidine.syncin

        I think it handles a lot of Nextcloud in a better way.

        Indie app dev, scratching my itches : communityapps.appx.uk, portfolio at myca.appx.uk

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        • nebulonN nebulon

          not sure what those domains/products are but they are not related to the file management app we develop. Since really only Cloudron is supported to install at, it has no separate project site as such yet.

          Cubby supports webdav, so it can be integrated in windows and linux filemanagers (though I don't have windows as such to give more details there).

          For Android the app is coming, but I guess we can already provide the apk soon even before play store acceptance

          micmcM
          micmcM
          micmc
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          #13

          Would like to add my 2 cents here about this new Cloudron app and thank you a so much great bunch lol as well, this app is absolutely AMAZING!
          It runs so well and it's so easy to use just as a snap out of the box, unbelievable! And connected on a dedi with 1Gbps pipe as well as 3Gbps optical fiber here in home-office the wire is getting ♨ 🤗

          @nebulon said:

          Cubby supports webdav, so it can be integrated in windows and linux filemanagers (though I don't have windows as such to give more details there).

          In Linux one just need to type server address and change http:// for dav:// in a "file manager" bar, and then connect with user name and pw.
          I would bet that it's about the same way to do thing in "Winthing" 😊

          For Android the app is coming, but I guess we can already provide the apk soon even before play store acceptance

          Well, it works also perfectly well in a Tablet in a browser as well it's really good as is, at least on a 10" one I haven't tried on a phone yet.
          P.S.: I'm also running-testing Mail and Tachyon and also Chat and... 💪 👊 ...nuf said

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          • timconsidineT timconsidine

            @bazinga have a look at Sync-in (Community App) : https://ca.cloudron.io/app/io.timconsidine.syncin

            I think it handles a lot of Nextcloud in a better way.

            micmcM
            micmcM
            micmc
            wrote last edited by
            #14

            @timconsidine said:

            I think it handles a lot of Nextcloud in a better way.

            100% agree! At last, an escape from NextCloud the heavy and bloated hard to maintain running correctly suite, between server and plugins updates it's almost nightmarish ...
            Alright feel better now 😊

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            • B bazinga

              @nebulon Huh, good to know - there was some resource that said you guys are behind the cubby.com. Probably a mistake.

              So, with cubby - am I able to change a file on my desktop and get it pushed into the cloud where my Android can access the updated file?

              micmcM
              micmcM
              micmc
              wrote last edited by micmc
              #15

              @bazinga said:

              So, with cubby - am I able to change a file on my desktop and get it pushed into the cloud where my Android can access the updated file?

              Yes, indeed, through WebDAV protocol using a normal "file manager" window you type the address of your server using davs:// instead of https:// you'll be prompted for your uname and pw and and once you're connected you're in a folder on your desktop just like any other desktop folder.

              On a mobile device you can connect through https:// using a web browser and it works pretty well.

              Whatever the device you use, your files are still at the same place. They're on your server. Whether you access them from your desktop or your mobile. So unless you think you'd be offline for while, in such case you could literally sync some files on your mobile device, there would be no real reason nor a need to sync files from your server into into your mobile device. 🙃

              P.S.: Oh and I also endorse Joplin as a note app it's amazing and so powerful. That one has desktop and a mobile app as well and incredible plugins, you can even connect some AI to chat with your notes and documents and even produce content. Enjoy!

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              (coming soon...)

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              • timconsidineT timconsidine

                @bazinga have a look at Sync-in (Community App) : https://ca.cloudron.io/app/io.timconsidine.syncin

                I think it handles a lot of Nextcloud in a better way.

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                B
                bazinga
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                #16

                @timconsidine Thank you, will take a look. My problem is that I have few family members who are very non-technical and spread around the globe, so getting their devices configured accordingly is a very, very challenging task.

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                • humptyH humpty

                  @bazinga said:

                  With "notes" I was referring to a note taking app - I don't care for complex apps, I just want a way to take simple notes and have them easily available on mobile + desktop.

                  In that case, Joplin FTW.

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                  B
                  bazinga
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                  #17

                  @humpty Thank you, will take a look. I see Joplin supports E2EE, which is huge. I hope it isn't too bloated and complex - not looking for that complexity at all.

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                  • micmcM micmc

                    @bazinga said:

                    So, with cubby - am I able to change a file on my desktop and get it pushed into the cloud where my Android can access the updated file?

                    Yes, indeed, through WebDAV protocol using a normal "file manager" window you type the address of your server using davs:// instead of https:// you'll be prompted for your uname and pw and and once you're connected you're in a folder on your desktop just like any other desktop folder.

                    On a mobile device you can connect through https:// using a web browser and it works pretty well.

                    Whatever the device you use, your files are still at the same place. They're on your server. Whether you access them from your desktop or your mobile. So unless you think you'd be offline for while, in such case you could literally sync some files on your mobile device, there would be no real reason nor a need to sync files from your server into into your mobile device. 🙃

                    P.S.: Oh and I also endorse Joplin as a note app it's amazing and so powerful. That one has desktop and a mobile app as well and incredible plugins, you can even connect some AI to chat with your notes and documents and even produce content. Enjoy!

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                    B
                    bazinga
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                    #18

                    @micmc Thank you. I wonder if I could use something like Cryptomatic with WebDAV in order to E2EE some specific files and access them on mobile and desktop. Will need to look into that.

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                    • B bazinga

                      @micmc Thank you. I wonder if I could use something like Cryptomatic with WebDAV in order to E2EE some specific files and access them on mobile and desktop. Will need to look into that.

                      micmcM
                      micmcM
                      micmc
                      wrote last edited by
                      #19

                      @bazinga said:

                      @micmc Thank you. I wonder if I could use something like Cryptomatic with WebDAV in order to E2EE some specific files and access them on mobile and desktop. Will need to look into that.

                      You're welcome.
                      I do not know Cryptomatic though in your case then I would take a look at CryptPad maybe this one would work better for you as it has files sharing, collaboration, and E2EE out of the box and very not complicated to use with a very nice webui.

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                      • humptyH
                        humptyH
                        humpty
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                        #20

                        Do you mean Cryptomator? If so, I use it with Nextcloud. Zero issues. I haven't tried it with other apps though.

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