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What's coming in 6.0 (take 2)

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  • LonkleL Offline
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    #13

    So what does 20.04 being updated for the host Cloudron system mean for the platform as a whole? I'm going to go look up the release notes of 20.04. But I was wondering what new features were specifically applicable to us.

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      Feature wise, 20.04 brings nothing new. But its important because most of the popular vps providers are now switching to it as the default ubuntu. Users forget often to switch to ubuntu 18 before creating a vm.

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        Relevant post here
        playing with this mgmt app idea may bring more clarity here as it's being used.

        Conscious tech

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          Funny enough, when I migrated from a VPS to on-prem (my house) I initially tried installing it on 20.04. Didn't work. :^)

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          • girishG girish

            We are continuing to work on getting many more of the apps published, see the WIP tag. Thanks to the community for really helping us out here!

            Features planned for 6.0:

            • Ubuntu Focal 20.04 support
            • Mailbox sharing - we tried IMAP based mailbox sharing but this doesn't work well for the apps we have. We will instead make it such that a single mailbox can have multiple owners.
            • Optimize WP and Nextcloud installations. This is not directly related to box code but we want to speeden things up and optimize the configs since we have a large number of installs with these 2 apps. @MooCloud_Matt has given us a lot of ideas to work with here.
            • Mail - Full text search via IMAP (solr integration)
            • Volume management - this will allow mounting paths on the host into apps.
            • i18n

            We removed the unified dashboard for now. @nebulon and I think it will take a good 1-2 months to implement and test and we want to keep the releases going. We will start implementing unified dashboard in a branch.

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            wrote on last edited by jdaviescoates
            #17

            @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

            Ubuntu Focal 20.04 support

            Just to check, but I assume Ubuntu 18.04 will continue to be supported by Cloudron until it's end of life (i.e. until April, 2023)?

            @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

            • Mail - Full text search via IMAP (solr integration)

            Can't wait for this! I think this will mean I'll finally have the courage to ditch G Suite for my primary email! 🙂

            But, I wonder, will it somehow enable (at least some) of the search operators available in Gmail?

            From the little I've read, I get the impression solr can do this stuff, but I just wonder if there will be (or are?) any open source webmail clients that can actually take advantage of it once we've got it?

            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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            • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

              @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

              Ubuntu Focal 20.04 support

              Just to check, but I assume Ubuntu 18.04 will continue to be supported by Cloudron until it's end of life (i.e. until April, 2023)?

              @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

              • Mail - Full text search via IMAP (solr integration)

              Can't wait for this! I think this will mean I'll finally have the courage to ditch G Suite for my primary email! 🙂

              But, I wonder, will it somehow enable (at least some) of the search operators available in Gmail?

              From the little I've read, I get the impression solr can do this stuff, but I just wonder if there will be (or are?) any open source webmail clients that can actually take advantage of it once we've got it?

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              @jdaviescoates yes ubuntu 18.04 will continue to be supported.

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              • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

                Ubuntu Focal 20.04 support

                Just to check, but I assume Ubuntu 18.04 will continue to be supported by Cloudron until it's end of life (i.e. until April, 2023)?

                @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

                • Mail - Full text search via IMAP (solr integration)

                Can't wait for this! I think this will mean I'll finally have the courage to ditch G Suite for my primary email! 🙂

                But, I wonder, will it somehow enable (at least some) of the search operators available in Gmail?

                From the little I've read, I get the impression solr can do this stuff, but I just wonder if there will be (or are?) any open source webmail clients that can actually take advantage of it once we've got it?

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                necrevistonnezr
                wrote on last edited by necrevistonnezr
                #19

                @jdaviescoates said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

                From the little I've read, I get the impression solr can do this stuff, but I just wonder if there will be (or are?) any open source webmail clients that can actually take advantage of it once we've got it?

                Apparently, Roundcube should work (https://wiki.magenbrot.net/linux/mail/dovecot/volltextsuche_in_mails_mit_solr (German) and https://github.com/RainLoop/rainloop-webmail/issues/73#issuecomment-251093397).

                Rainloop works with SOLR and dovecot (which I think Cloudron uses) if you create a virtual mail folder with all mail: https://github.com/RainLoop/rainloop-webmail/issues/73#issuecomment-412377275

                Since the otherwise excellent Rainloop doesn't even support search in multiple folders, this would be a great improvement! I hope wish that @girish and @nebulon would / could preconfigure dovecot accordingly...

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                • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                  @jdaviescoates said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

                  From the little I've read, I get the impression solr can do this stuff, but I just wonder if there will be (or are?) any open source webmail clients that can actually take advantage of it once we've got it?

                  Apparently, Roundcube should work (https://wiki.magenbrot.net/linux/mail/dovecot/volltextsuche_in_mails_mit_solr (German) and https://github.com/RainLoop/rainloop-webmail/issues/73#issuecomment-251093397).

                  Rainloop works with SOLR and dovecot (which I think Cloudron uses) if you create a virtual mail folder with all mail: https://github.com/RainLoop/rainloop-webmail/issues/73#issuecomment-412377275

                  Since the otherwise excellent Rainloop doesn't even support search in multiple folders, this would be a great improvement! I hope wish that @girish and @nebulon would / could preconfigure dovecot accordingly...

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                  jdaviescoates
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                  @necrevistonnezr thanks, that all sounds positive, but I don't see anything there about which search operators will work. Guess maybe I'll just have to wait and see!

                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                    #21

                    Some big news: We will be adding i18n support in Cloudron 6. This work is being sponsored by Medias-Cite and their Cloudron project OSINUM. Thanks @Benoit ! As part of the work, we will also package the Weblate app (for translations).

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                    • girishG girish

                      Some big news: We will be adding i18n support in Cloudron 6. This work is being sponsored by Medias-Cite and their Cloudron project OSINUM. Thanks @Benoit ! As part of the work, we will also package the Weblate app (for translations).

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                      robi
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                      @girish
                      The awesome continues!

                      More cow bell!

                      Conscious tech

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                      • girishG girish

                        Some big news: We will be adding i18n support in Cloudron 6. This work is being sponsored by Medias-Cite and their Cloudron project OSINUM. Thanks @Benoit ! As part of the work, we will also package the Weblate app (for translations).

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                        #23

                        @girish Ah, this is great news! As someone who's primary language is not English, I appreciate this effort and offer to put a bit of time into translation if need be.

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                        • girishG girish

                          Some big news: We will be adding i18n support in Cloudron 6. This work is being sponsored by Medias-Cite and their Cloudron project OSINUM. Thanks @Benoit ! As part of the work, we will also package the Weblate app (for translations).

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                          ruihildt
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                          #24

                          @girish This is great news. They are doing what I would have liked to do. 🙂

                          As an aside, they are advertising Cloudron as free software, which is not correct at the moment.

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                            #25

                            @ruihildt You can/should still do it 🙂 !

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                            • girishG girish

                              @ruihildt You can/should still do it 🙂 !

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                              wrote on last edited by
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                              @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

                              @ruihildt You can/should still do it !

                              Something to announce ? 😱

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                                We got some inquiries about what languages we will support. Currently, it's early days and we are just deciding on how to go about internationalization. Usually, translating an app is 2 steps. Step 1 is i18 phase where the app is made translation friendly. Step 2 is the l10n phase where localizations are provided.

                                At this point, all we know is that we will atleast launch with french and german translations.

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                                • girishG girish

                                  We got some inquiries about what languages we will support. Currently, it's early days and we are just deciding on how to go about internationalization. Usually, translating an app is 2 steps. Step 1 is i18 phase where the app is made translation friendly. Step 2 is the l10n phase where localizations are provided.

                                  At this point, all we know is that we will atleast launch with french and german translations.

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                                  @girish That's great news. You can count on me for translation to Brazilian Portuguese.

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                                  • M malvim

                                    @girish That's great news. You can count on me for translation to Brazilian Portuguese.

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                                    @malvim Beleza!

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                                      Some updates on volume management. There is now a volume view.

                                      51ffb468-f11f-41cf-813f-c36e10ae0e3c-image.png

                                      You add a host path as a volume and give it a name. This is most likely some EBS/external hard disk/Block Storage. There is also the file manager integration (the button next to the delete button).

                                      You can then go to the app view and mount these volumes into the apps. There is a new Storage section.

                                      88466958-b414-40ae-bff6-32edf6dac6bc-image.png

                                      There is a section overload in the app configure view 🙂 We are looking to reducing the list of sections in the left pane. It's making things hard to find.

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                                        This looks wonderful!

                                        Off the top of my head, I could see the Console + Repair sections being merged and the Resources + Access Control + Location sections being merged. But honestly I am struggling to come up with names so I suppose thats why you have them the way you have them now.

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                                        • girishG girish

                                          Some updates on volume management. There is now a volume view.

                                          51ffb468-f11f-41cf-813f-c36e10ae0e3c-image.png

                                          You add a host path as a volume and give it a name. This is most likely some EBS/external hard disk/Block Storage. There is also the file manager integration (the button next to the delete button).

                                          You can then go to the app view and mount these volumes into the apps. There is a new Storage section.

                                          88466958-b414-40ae-bff6-32edf6dac6bc-image.png

                                          There is a section overload in the app configure view 🙂 We are looking to reducing the list of sections in the left pane. It's making things hard to find.

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                                          @girish Amazing!

                                          It's almost like you develop with the power of telepathy sometimes 🙇

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