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What's coming in 6.0 (take 2)

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  • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

    @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

    Ubuntu Focal 20.04 support

    Just to check, but I assume Ubuntu 18.04 will continue to be supported by Cloudron until it's end of life (i.e. until April, 2023)?

    @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

    • Mail - Full text search via IMAP (solr integration)

    Can't wait for this! I think this will mean I'll finally have the courage to ditch G Suite for my primary email! 🙂

    But, I wonder, will it somehow enable (at least some) of the search operators available in Gmail?

    From the little I've read, I get the impression solr can do this stuff, but I just wonder if there will be (or are?) any open source webmail clients that can actually take advantage of it once we've got it?

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    @jdaviescoates said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

    From the little I've read, I get the impression solr can do this stuff, but I just wonder if there will be (or are?) any open source webmail clients that can actually take advantage of it once we've got it?

    Apparently, Roundcube should work (https://wiki.magenbrot.net/linux/mail/dovecot/volltextsuche_in_mails_mit_solr (German) and https://github.com/RainLoop/rainloop-webmail/issues/73#issuecomment-251093397).

    Rainloop works with SOLR and dovecot (which I think Cloudron uses) if you create a virtual mail folder with all mail: https://github.com/RainLoop/rainloop-webmail/issues/73#issuecomment-412377275

    Since the otherwise excellent Rainloop doesn't even support search in multiple folders, this would be a great improvement! I hope wish that @girish and @nebulon would / could preconfigure dovecot accordingly...

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    • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

      @jdaviescoates said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

      From the little I've read, I get the impression solr can do this stuff, but I just wonder if there will be (or are?) any open source webmail clients that can actually take advantage of it once we've got it?

      Apparently, Roundcube should work (https://wiki.magenbrot.net/linux/mail/dovecot/volltextsuche_in_mails_mit_solr (German) and https://github.com/RainLoop/rainloop-webmail/issues/73#issuecomment-251093397).

      Rainloop works with SOLR and dovecot (which I think Cloudron uses) if you create a virtual mail folder with all mail: https://github.com/RainLoop/rainloop-webmail/issues/73#issuecomment-412377275

      Since the otherwise excellent Rainloop doesn't even support search in multiple folders, this would be a great improvement! I hope wish that @girish and @nebulon would / could preconfigure dovecot accordingly...

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      @necrevistonnezr thanks, that all sounds positive, but I don't see anything there about which search operators will work. Guess maybe I'll just have to wait and see!

      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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        Some big news: We will be adding i18n support in Cloudron 6. This work is being sponsored by Medias-Cite and their Cloudron project OSINUM. Thanks @Benoit ! As part of the work, we will also package the Weblate app (for translations).

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        • girishG girish

          Some big news: We will be adding i18n support in Cloudron 6. This work is being sponsored by Medias-Cite and their Cloudron project OSINUM. Thanks @Benoit ! As part of the work, we will also package the Weblate app (for translations).

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          @girish
          The awesome continues!

          More cow bell!

          Conscious tech

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          • girishG girish

            Some big news: We will be adding i18n support in Cloudron 6. This work is being sponsored by Medias-Cite and their Cloudron project OSINUM. Thanks @Benoit ! As part of the work, we will also package the Weblate app (for translations).

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            @girish Ah, this is great news! As someone who's primary language is not English, I appreciate this effort and offer to put a bit of time into translation if need be.

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            • girishG girish

              Some big news: We will be adding i18n support in Cloudron 6. This work is being sponsored by Medias-Cite and their Cloudron project OSINUM. Thanks @Benoit ! As part of the work, we will also package the Weblate app (for translations).

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              @girish This is great news. They are doing what I would have liked to do. 🙂

              As an aside, they are advertising Cloudron as free software, which is not correct at the moment.

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                @ruihildt You can/should still do it 🙂 !

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                • girishG girish

                  @ruihildt You can/should still do it 🙂 !

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                  @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

                  @ruihildt You can/should still do it !

                  Something to announce ? 😱

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                    We got some inquiries about what languages we will support. Currently, it's early days and we are just deciding on how to go about internationalization. Usually, translating an app is 2 steps. Step 1 is i18 phase where the app is made translation friendly. Step 2 is the l10n phase where localizations are provided.

                    At this point, all we know is that we will atleast launch with french and german translations.

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                    • girishG girish

                      We got some inquiries about what languages we will support. Currently, it's early days and we are just deciding on how to go about internationalization. Usually, translating an app is 2 steps. Step 1 is i18 phase where the app is made translation friendly. Step 2 is the l10n phase where localizations are provided.

                      At this point, all we know is that we will atleast launch with french and german translations.

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                      @girish That's great news. You can count on me for translation to Brazilian Portuguese.

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                      • M malvim

                        @girish That's great news. You can count on me for translation to Brazilian Portuguese.

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                        @malvim Beleza!

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                          Some updates on volume management. There is now a volume view.

                          51ffb468-f11f-41cf-813f-c36e10ae0e3c-image.png

                          You add a host path as a volume and give it a name. This is most likely some EBS/external hard disk/Block Storage. There is also the file manager integration (the button next to the delete button).

                          You can then go to the app view and mount these volumes into the apps. There is a new Storage section.

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                          There is a section overload in the app configure view 🙂 We are looking to reducing the list of sections in the left pane. It's making things hard to find.

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                            This looks wonderful!

                            Off the top of my head, I could see the Console + Repair sections being merged and the Resources + Access Control + Location sections being merged. But honestly I am struggling to come up with names so I suppose thats why you have them the way you have them now.

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                            • girishG girish

                              Some updates on volume management. There is now a volume view.

                              51ffb468-f11f-41cf-813f-c36e10ae0e3c-image.png

                              You add a host path as a volume and give it a name. This is most likely some EBS/external hard disk/Block Storage. There is also the file manager integration (the button next to the delete button).

                              You can then go to the app view and mount these volumes into the apps. There is a new Storage section.

                              88466958-b414-40ae-bff6-32edf6dac6bc-image.png

                              There is a section overload in the app configure view 🙂 We are looking to reducing the list of sections in the left pane. It's making things hard to find.

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                              @girish Amazing!

                              It's almost like you develop with the power of telepathy sometimes 🙇

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                              • girishG girish

                                Some updates on volume management. There is now a volume view.

                                51ffb468-f11f-41cf-813f-c36e10ae0e3c-image.png

                                You add a host path as a volume and give it a name. This is most likely some EBS/external hard disk/Block Storage. There is also the file manager integration (the button next to the delete button).

                                You can then go to the app view and mount these volumes into the apps. There is a new Storage section.

                                88466958-b414-40ae-bff6-32edf6dac6bc-image.png

                                There is a section overload in the app configure view 🙂 We are looking to reducing the list of sections in the left pane. It's making things hard to find.

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                                @girish Any chance of you adding a button in for resizing the partition after upgrading a VM?

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                                • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                  @girish Any chance of you adding a button in for resizing the partition after upgrading a VM?

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                                  @marcusquinn Not for this release but hope to implement more volume management tools (like mounting nfs/sshfs, backing up volumes, resizing etc) as we go.

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                                    Not a feature I was expecting but I know I'll take advantage of it. This is pretty cool!

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                                    • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                      @girish Any chance of you adding a button in for resizing the partition after upgrading a VM?

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                                      @marcusquinn said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

                                      @girish Any chance of you adding a button in for resizing the partition after upgrading a VM?

                                      +1

                                      Resizing my backup volume on Hetzner is one of the few reasons I have to occasionally ssh into my VPS.

                                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                        Externalizing a volume to a Minio/S3/Object store would be nice.

                                        Conscious tech

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                                        • robiR robi

                                          Externalizing a volume to a Minio/S3/Object store would be nice.

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                                          @robi
                                          s3 filesystem are not so mature, i read a lot on them because use s3 with dovecot in our mail server and the performance are terrible in u use s3 as FS, 20/40 ms depending on where you host the s3 server.

                                          The optimal solution is to use plugin or software that integrate s3 in to the App/script that you want to use.

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                                          MooCloud MSP
                                          Swiss Managed Service Provider

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