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What's coming in 6.0 (take 2)

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    Funny enough, when I migrated from a VPS to on-prem (my house) I initially tried installing it on 20.04. Didn't work. :^)

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    • girishG girish

      We are continuing to work on getting many more of the apps published, see the WIP tag. Thanks to the community for really helping us out here!

      Features planned for 6.0:

      • Ubuntu Focal 20.04 support
      • Mailbox sharing - we tried IMAP based mailbox sharing but this doesn't work well for the apps we have. We will instead make it such that a single mailbox can have multiple owners.
      • Optimize WP and Nextcloud installations. This is not directly related to box code but we want to speeden things up and optimize the configs since we have a large number of installs with these 2 apps. @MooCloud_Matt has given us a lot of ideas to work with here.
      • Mail - Full text search via IMAP (solr integration)
      • Volume management - this will allow mounting paths on the host into apps.
      • i18n

      We removed the unified dashboard for now. @nebulon and I think it will take a good 1-2 months to implement and test and we want to keep the releases going. We will start implementing unified dashboard in a branch.

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      @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

      Ubuntu Focal 20.04 support

      Just to check, but I assume Ubuntu 18.04 will continue to be supported by Cloudron until it's end of life (i.e. until April, 2023)?

      @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

      • Mail - Full text search via IMAP (solr integration)

      Can't wait for this! I think this will mean I'll finally have the courage to ditch G Suite for my primary email! 🙂

      But, I wonder, will it somehow enable (at least some) of the search operators available in Gmail?

      From the little I've read, I get the impression solr can do this stuff, but I just wonder if there will be (or are?) any open source webmail clients that can actually take advantage of it once we've got it?

      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

        @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

        Ubuntu Focal 20.04 support

        Just to check, but I assume Ubuntu 18.04 will continue to be supported by Cloudron until it's end of life (i.e. until April, 2023)?

        @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

        • Mail - Full text search via IMAP (solr integration)

        Can't wait for this! I think this will mean I'll finally have the courage to ditch G Suite for my primary email! 🙂

        But, I wonder, will it somehow enable (at least some) of the search operators available in Gmail?

        From the little I've read, I get the impression solr can do this stuff, but I just wonder if there will be (or are?) any open source webmail clients that can actually take advantage of it once we've got it?

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        @jdaviescoates yes ubuntu 18.04 will continue to be supported.

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        • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

          @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

          Ubuntu Focal 20.04 support

          Just to check, but I assume Ubuntu 18.04 will continue to be supported by Cloudron until it's end of life (i.e. until April, 2023)?

          @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

          • Mail - Full text search via IMAP (solr integration)

          Can't wait for this! I think this will mean I'll finally have the courage to ditch G Suite for my primary email! 🙂

          But, I wonder, will it somehow enable (at least some) of the search operators available in Gmail?

          From the little I've read, I get the impression solr can do this stuff, but I just wonder if there will be (or are?) any open source webmail clients that can actually take advantage of it once we've got it?

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          necrevistonnezr
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          @jdaviescoates said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

          From the little I've read, I get the impression solr can do this stuff, but I just wonder if there will be (or are?) any open source webmail clients that can actually take advantage of it once we've got it?

          Apparently, Roundcube should work (https://wiki.magenbrot.net/linux/mail/dovecot/volltextsuche_in_mails_mit_solr (German) and https://github.com/RainLoop/rainloop-webmail/issues/73#issuecomment-251093397).

          Rainloop works with SOLR and dovecot (which I think Cloudron uses) if you create a virtual mail folder with all mail: https://github.com/RainLoop/rainloop-webmail/issues/73#issuecomment-412377275

          Since the otherwise excellent Rainloop doesn't even support search in multiple folders, this would be a great improvement! I hope wish that @girish and @nebulon would / could preconfigure dovecot accordingly...

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          • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

            @jdaviescoates said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

            From the little I've read, I get the impression solr can do this stuff, but I just wonder if there will be (or are?) any open source webmail clients that can actually take advantage of it once we've got it?

            Apparently, Roundcube should work (https://wiki.magenbrot.net/linux/mail/dovecot/volltextsuche_in_mails_mit_solr (German) and https://github.com/RainLoop/rainloop-webmail/issues/73#issuecomment-251093397).

            Rainloop works with SOLR and dovecot (which I think Cloudron uses) if you create a virtual mail folder with all mail: https://github.com/RainLoop/rainloop-webmail/issues/73#issuecomment-412377275

            Since the otherwise excellent Rainloop doesn't even support search in multiple folders, this would be a great improvement! I hope wish that @girish and @nebulon would / could preconfigure dovecot accordingly...

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            @necrevistonnezr thanks, that all sounds positive, but I don't see anything there about which search operators will work. Guess maybe I'll just have to wait and see!

            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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              Some big news: We will be adding i18n support in Cloudron 6. This work is being sponsored by Medias-Cite and their Cloudron project OSINUM. Thanks @Benoit ! As part of the work, we will also package the Weblate app (for translations).

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              • girishG girish

                Some big news: We will be adding i18n support in Cloudron 6. This work is being sponsored by Medias-Cite and their Cloudron project OSINUM. Thanks @Benoit ! As part of the work, we will also package the Weblate app (for translations).

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                @girish
                The awesome continues!

                More cow bell!

                Conscious tech

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                • girishG girish

                  Some big news: We will be adding i18n support in Cloudron 6. This work is being sponsored by Medias-Cite and their Cloudron project OSINUM. Thanks @Benoit ! As part of the work, we will also package the Weblate app (for translations).

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                  @girish Ah, this is great news! As someone who's primary language is not English, I appreciate this effort and offer to put a bit of time into translation if need be.

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                  • girishG girish

                    Some big news: We will be adding i18n support in Cloudron 6. This work is being sponsored by Medias-Cite and their Cloudron project OSINUM. Thanks @Benoit ! As part of the work, we will also package the Weblate app (for translations).

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                    @girish This is great news. They are doing what I would have liked to do. 🙂

                    As an aside, they are advertising Cloudron as free software, which is not correct at the moment.

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                      @ruihildt You can/should still do it 🙂 !

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                      • girishG girish

                        @ruihildt You can/should still do it 🙂 !

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                        @girish said in What's coming in 6.0 (take 2):

                        @ruihildt You can/should still do it !

                        Something to announce ? 😱

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                          We got some inquiries about what languages we will support. Currently, it's early days and we are just deciding on how to go about internationalization. Usually, translating an app is 2 steps. Step 1 is i18 phase where the app is made translation friendly. Step 2 is the l10n phase where localizations are provided.

                          At this point, all we know is that we will atleast launch with french and german translations.

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                          • girishG girish

                            We got some inquiries about what languages we will support. Currently, it's early days and we are just deciding on how to go about internationalization. Usually, translating an app is 2 steps. Step 1 is i18 phase where the app is made translation friendly. Step 2 is the l10n phase where localizations are provided.

                            At this point, all we know is that we will atleast launch with french and german translations.

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                            @girish That's great news. You can count on me for translation to Brazilian Portuguese.

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                              @girish That's great news. You can count on me for translation to Brazilian Portuguese.

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                              @malvim Beleza!

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                                Some updates on volume management. There is now a volume view.

                                51ffb468-f11f-41cf-813f-c36e10ae0e3c-image.png

                                You add a host path as a volume and give it a name. This is most likely some EBS/external hard disk/Block Storage. There is also the file manager integration (the button next to the delete button).

                                You can then go to the app view and mount these volumes into the apps. There is a new Storage section.

                                88466958-b414-40ae-bff6-32edf6dac6bc-image.png

                                There is a section overload in the app configure view 🙂 We are looking to reducing the list of sections in the left pane. It's making things hard to find.

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                                  This looks wonderful!

                                  Off the top of my head, I could see the Console + Repair sections being merged and the Resources + Access Control + Location sections being merged. But honestly I am struggling to come up with names so I suppose thats why you have them the way you have them now.

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                                  • girishG girish

                                    Some updates on volume management. There is now a volume view.

                                    51ffb468-f11f-41cf-813f-c36e10ae0e3c-image.png

                                    You add a host path as a volume and give it a name. This is most likely some EBS/external hard disk/Block Storage. There is also the file manager integration (the button next to the delete button).

                                    You can then go to the app view and mount these volumes into the apps. There is a new Storage section.

                                    88466958-b414-40ae-bff6-32edf6dac6bc-image.png

                                    There is a section overload in the app configure view 🙂 We are looking to reducing the list of sections in the left pane. It's making things hard to find.

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                                    @girish Amazing!

                                    It's almost like you develop with the power of telepathy sometimes 🙇

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                                    • girishG girish

                                      Some updates on volume management. There is now a volume view.

                                      51ffb468-f11f-41cf-813f-c36e10ae0e3c-image.png

                                      You add a host path as a volume and give it a name. This is most likely some EBS/external hard disk/Block Storage. There is also the file manager integration (the button next to the delete button).

                                      You can then go to the app view and mount these volumes into the apps. There is a new Storage section.

                                      88466958-b414-40ae-bff6-32edf6dac6bc-image.png

                                      There is a section overload in the app configure view 🙂 We are looking to reducing the list of sections in the left pane. It's making things hard to find.

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                                      @girish Any chance of you adding a button in for resizing the partition after upgrading a VM?

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                                      Development https://brandlight.org
                                      Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                                      • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                        @girish Any chance of you adding a button in for resizing the partition after upgrading a VM?

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                                        @marcusquinn Not for this release but hope to implement more volume management tools (like mounting nfs/sshfs, backing up volumes, resizing etc) as we go.

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                                          Not a feature I was expecting but I know I'll take advantage of it. This is pretty cool!

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