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Magnetico Autonomous (self-hosted) BitTorrent DHT search engine suite.

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  • robiR Offline
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    https://github.com/boramalper/magnetico

    magnetico is the first autonomous (self-hosted) BitTorrent DHT search engine suite that is designed for end-users. The suite consists of two packages:

    • magneticod: Autonomous BitTorrent DHT crawler and metadata fetcher.
    • magneticow: Lightweight web interface for magnetico.

    Both programs, combined together, allows anyone with a decent Internet connection to access the vast amount of torrents waiting to be discovered within the BitTorrent DHT space, without relying on any central entity.

    Magnetico liberates BitTorrent from the yoke of centralised trackers & web-sites and makes it truly decentralised.

    Conscious tech

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    • JOduMonTJ Offline
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      it is obviously not self-hosted, but if you want something similar, you could give a change to Stremio

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        Again, I would keep Cloudron free of any such apps and links, there are far better places for such discussions and @girish and @nebulon really don't need the legal hassle dealing with takedown requests and cease and desist letters - these alreasy entail legal fees. Believe me, I do this for a living....

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          Yeah, agree with @necrevistonnezr here. It's unlikely we will package these apps. Already, we had to blacklist a few apps in our demo cloudron (like transmission, cloud torrent etc) since we got warnings from Digital Ocean saying they will close our account (atleast, they gave us a warning and didn't have some bot close it!).

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          • girishG girish

            Yeah, agree with @necrevistonnezr here. It's unlikely we will package these apps. Already, we had to blacklist a few apps in our demo cloudron (like transmission, cloud torrent etc) since we got warnings from Digital Ocean saying they will close our account (atleast, they gave us a warning and didn't have some bot close it!).

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            @girish did you see the news, Youtube-dl has been taking down due to DCMA

            I wonder if AllTube is not the next one, maybe it would be safer for Cloudron Team and Cloudron User to remove this app too.

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            • JOduMonTJ JOduMonT

              @girish did you see the news, Youtube-dl has been taking down due to DCMA

              I wonder if AllTube is not the next one, maybe it would be safer for Cloudron Team and Cloudron User to remove this app too.

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              @JOduMonT Yes, it's blacklisted in the demo cloudron.

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              • robiR Offline
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                It's sad that tools used for legitimate purposes are being banned because of the potential for misuse.

                A knife can save lives and a hammer can build lives. Should we avoid using them because they can hurt people too?

                Legal arguments aside, even unofficially packaging is useful, and as the team already found out, it doesn't have to be announced or in the demo.

                Conscious tech

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                • robiR robi

                  It's sad that tools used for legitimate purposes are being banned because of the potential for misuse.

                  A knife can save lives and a hammer can build lives. Should we avoid using them because they can hurt people too?

                  Legal arguments aside, even unofficially packaging is useful, and as the team already found out, it doesn't have to be announced or in the demo.

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                  @robi said in Magnetico Autonomous (self-hosted) BitTorrent DHT search engine suite.:

                  It's sad that tools used for legitimate purposes are being banned because of the potential for misuse.

                  A knife can save lives and a hammer can build lives. Should we avoid using them because they can hurt people too?

                  Legal arguments aside, even unofficially packaging is useful, and as the team already found out, it doesn't have to be announced or in the demo.

                  It depends on the (presumed) intent to use: Judges / lawyers are not as stupid or disconnected from reality as most people think they are. We know since 2010 that most bittorrent traffic is not of the legal variety. So you might be able to convince a judge otherwise but this will require time / money / effort. And not yours, but the time / money / effort of @girish and @nebulon.

                  BTW: If you handle your knife in your kitchen - ok. If you carry a knife to a protest that later turns violent - you'll face a much higher charge, even if you never used it.

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                    I, for one, am curious to see what GitHub does with the youtube-dl notice. After all they have all the money and lawyers at their disposal.

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                    • girishG girish

                      I, for one, am curious to see what GitHub does with the youtube-dl notice. After all they have all the money and lawyers at their disposal.

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                      @girish well, they took the repository down pretty much immediately.

                      And it seems they are now threatening to ban people who upload it again. But apparently GitHub CEO Nat Friedman has also been actively trying to help reinstate the repository.

                      See e.g. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/software/github-threatens-to-ban-users-who-bypass-youtube-dl-takedown/

                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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