Why is my backup drive full?
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I just had a look at whats inside /var/backups/snapshot and it looks like it's all from 15 Jan! Surely that can't be right?!?
root@ubuntu-2gb-fsn1-1:/var/backups/snapshot# ls -l total 1218540 -rw-r--r-- 2 yellowtent yellowtent 1165420357 Jan 15 2020 app_08388b1d-12c7-42c2-b6bd-a5c5be5cfcbb.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 2 yellowtent yellowtent 7667 Jan 15 2020 app_133a418f-dc94-4f4a-bd80-b29d6fe6d356.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 2 yellowtent yellowtent 8754 Jan 15 2020 app_2077efa7-c7a1-42fd-91f2-d528e594ee54.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 2 yellowtent yellowtent 7267103 Jan 15 2020 app_3eef7707-506f-4c12-b762-364589507136.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 2 yellowtent yellowtent 9855 Jan 15 2020 app_77519696-45f5-4bd8-bc28-78ebb2ba3664.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 2 yellowtent yellowtent 68475 Jan 15 2020 app_a0a9bc60-0693-4b86-bcd1-ce74c301ff3c.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 2 yellowtent yellowtent 74700646 Jan 15 2020 app_d0e0fa7c-e358-4d93-869b-e227feec349f.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 2 yellowtent yellowtent 278567 Jan 15 2020 box.tar.gz root@ubuntu-2gb-fsn1-1:/var/backups/snapshot#I note that 15 Jan is actually the day I created the volume where my backups live:
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Just to get a clear picture here, can you double check your backup configuration to see the folder it actually is using for backups? Also check if you use tarball or rsync style backup.
Note that if you change the backup configuration, the old backups will remain on the disk, Cloudron does not do any purging of old backups. For example if you switch from tarball to rsync, the old tarballs will still exist on disk and have to be manually removed as of now.
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Just to get a clear picture here, can you double check your backup configuration to see the folder it actually is using for backups? Also check if you use tarball or rsync style backup.
Note that if you change the backup configuration, the old backups will remain on the disk, Cloudron does not do any purging of old backups. For example if you switch from tarball to rsync, the old tarballs will still exist on disk and have to be manually removed as of now.
@nebulon said in Why is my backup drive full?:
Just to get a clear picture here, can you double check your backup configuration to see the folder it actually is using for backups?
Doh!
Yeah, I've got a volume mounted so it's not /var/backups/ it's at /mnt/backups
Here they all are!
root@ubuntu-2gb-fsn1-1:~# ls -l /mnt/backups total 164 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 6 22:30 2020-09-06-223002-163 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 8 22:30 2020-09-08-223001-828 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 8 22:30 2020-09-08-223002-037 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 9 22:30 2020-09-09-223002-877 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 9 22:38 2020-09-09-223003-092 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 9 22:30 2020-09-09-223003-461 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 9 22:30 2020-09-09-223048-638 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 11 22:30 2020-09-11-223001-919 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 11 22:30 2020-09-11-223002-397 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 12 22:40 2020-09-12-224039-652 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 13 22:41 2020-09-13-224129-874 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 13 22:45 2020-09-13-224527-403 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 13 22:47 2020-09-13-224555-257 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 13 22:47 2020-09-13-224713-002 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 13 22:48 2020-09-13-224757-613 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 14 02:30 2020-09-14-023003-201 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 14 02:31 2020-09-14-023003-213 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 14 02:30 2020-09-14-023003-224 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 14 02:31 2020-09-14-023050-510 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 15 22:40 2020-09-15-224017-990 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 18 22:40 2020-09-18-224017-550 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 19 00:57 2020-09-19-003001-934 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 20 00:39 2020-09-20-000010-527 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 20 22:30 2020-09-20-223002-164 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 21 00:56 2020-09-21-003001-880 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 21 22:30 2020-09-21-223003-597 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 21 22:30 2020-09-21-223003-806 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 21 22:30 2020-09-21-223003-870 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 23 22:30 2020-09-23-223001-540 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 24 00:30 2020-09-24-003001-489 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 24 22:11 2020-09-24-220003-529 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 25 13:37 2020-09-25-132557-773 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 25 22:30 2020-09-25-223001-288 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 25 22:30 2020-09-25-223001-426 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 26 02:30 2020-09-26-023001-266 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 26 08:36 2020-09-26-082946-798 drwx------ 2 root root 16384 Jan 15 2020 lost+found drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 26 08:29 snapshot root@ubuntu-2gb-fsn1-1:~#@nebulon said in Why is my backup drive full?:
Note that if you change the backup configuration, the old backups will remain on the disk, Cloudron does not do any purging of old backups. For example if you switch from tarball to rsync, the old tarballs will still exist on disk and have to be manually removed as of now.
That explains why the ancient ones (because I purchased and mounted a volume) were still in /var/backups
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@nebulon said in Why is my backup drive full?:
Just to get a clear picture here, can you double check your backup configuration to see the folder it actually is using for backups?
Doh!
Yeah, I've got a volume mounted so it's not /var/backups/ it's at /mnt/backups
Here they all are!
root@ubuntu-2gb-fsn1-1:~# ls -l /mnt/backups total 164 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 6 22:30 2020-09-06-223002-163 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 8 22:30 2020-09-08-223001-828 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 8 22:30 2020-09-08-223002-037 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 9 22:30 2020-09-09-223002-877 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 9 22:38 2020-09-09-223003-092 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 9 22:30 2020-09-09-223003-461 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 9 22:30 2020-09-09-223048-638 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 11 22:30 2020-09-11-223001-919 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 11 22:30 2020-09-11-223002-397 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 12 22:40 2020-09-12-224039-652 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 13 22:41 2020-09-13-224129-874 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 13 22:45 2020-09-13-224527-403 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 13 22:47 2020-09-13-224555-257 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 13 22:47 2020-09-13-224713-002 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 13 22:48 2020-09-13-224757-613 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 14 02:30 2020-09-14-023003-201 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 14 02:31 2020-09-14-023003-213 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 14 02:30 2020-09-14-023003-224 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 14 02:31 2020-09-14-023050-510 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 15 22:40 2020-09-15-224017-990 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 18 22:40 2020-09-18-224017-550 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 19 00:57 2020-09-19-003001-934 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 20 00:39 2020-09-20-000010-527 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 20 22:30 2020-09-20-223002-164 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 21 00:56 2020-09-21-003001-880 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 21 22:30 2020-09-21-223003-597 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 21 22:30 2020-09-21-223003-806 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 21 22:30 2020-09-21-223003-870 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 23 22:30 2020-09-23-223001-540 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 24 00:30 2020-09-24-003001-489 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 24 22:11 2020-09-24-220003-529 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 25 13:37 2020-09-25-132557-773 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 25 22:30 2020-09-25-223001-288 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 25 22:30 2020-09-25-223001-426 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 26 02:30 2020-09-26-023001-266 drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 26 08:36 2020-09-26-082946-798 drwx------ 2 root root 16384 Jan 15 2020 lost+found drwxr-xr-x 2 yellowtent yellowtent 4096 Sep 26 08:29 snapshot root@ubuntu-2gb-fsn1-1:~#@nebulon said in Why is my backup drive full?:
Note that if you change the backup configuration, the old backups will remain on the disk, Cloudron does not do any purging of old backups. For example if you switch from tarball to rsync, the old tarballs will still exist on disk and have to be manually removed as of now.
That explains why the ancient ones (because I purchased and mounted a volume) were still in /var/backups
@jdaviescoates said in Why is my backup drive full?:
/var/backups/
You can safely remove the files/backups here, will get back some space.
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@jdaviescoates said in Why is my backup drive full?:
/var/backups/
You can safely remove the files/backups here, will get back some space.
@girish said in Why is my backup drive full?:
You can safely remove the files/backups here, will get back some space.
Just to be clear, I'm assuming I can safely remove absolutely everything in there, right?
Perhaps even completely remove that folder?
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@jdaviescoates said in Why is my backup drive full?:
Perhaps even completely remove that folder?
Yes, you can remove it entirely.
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@jdaviescoates said in Why is my backup drive full?:
Perhaps even completely remove that folder?
Yes, you can remove it entirely.
@girish OK will do.
The error messages I'm getting are still really strange. Latest one is the strangest yet:
Not enough disk space for backup. Needed: 1.08 GB Available: 1.08 GB
Either way, guess I need to delete a few more old backups from /mnt/backups before backing up will work again...
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@jdaviescoates said in Why is my backup drive full?:
Perhaps even completely remove that folder?
Yes, you can remove it entirely.
@girish I had the same question as @jdaviescoates. I've moved my backups from internal same drive to an external USB drive.
I am using tarballs as backup format.
I've moved the backup directories from /var/backups/ to my external drive. If I want to restore from those backup directories, do I need the contents of the /var/backups/snapshot directory also?
If I don't want to restore from those older backups, can I confirm that it's OK to delete the contents of the /var/backups/snapshot directory?
Thanks for the helpful thread.
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In the end I just bit the bullet and doubled the size of my backup disk!
Still slightly confused/ bemused by all the strange random space errors I was getting though!
@jdaviescoates If you're using rsync, the space errors might not be so strange, as it would only need to add additional files, rather than backing up the whole thing again, hence the space required for a given backup might be quite random (depending what has changed since the last one). Just a suggestion though. And of course if you're using tarball then that is really weird!
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@jdaviescoates If you're using rsync, the space errors might not be so strange, as it would only need to add additional files, rather than backing up the whole thing again, hence the space required for a given backup might be quite random (depending what has changed since the last one). Just a suggestion though. And of course if you're using tarball then that is really weird!
@avatar1024 yeah, it was tarball.
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@girish I had the same question as @jdaviescoates. I've moved my backups from internal same drive to an external USB drive.
I am using tarballs as backup format.
I've moved the backup directories from /var/backups/ to my external drive. If I want to restore from those backup directories, do I need the contents of the /var/backups/snapshot directory also?
If I don't want to restore from those older backups, can I confirm that it's OK to delete the contents of the /var/backups/snapshot directory?
Thanks for the helpful thread.
@ei8fdb said in Why is my backup drive full?:
I've moved the backup directories from /var/backups/ to my external drive. If I want to restore from those backup directories, do I need the contents of the /var/backups/snapshot directory also?
The snapshot directory is not required for restoring. BUT it's required for the actual the backups to work (so think of it as a working directory for backups). It's important to not remove that directory when doing backups! Since, Cloudron will use hard links from the actual backups to the snapshot directory, it's not really taking up extra space.
