Usermanagement

[Bluxomat]

Hi there.
I have already a Premium-Account, wondering if a Busines-Account might help me with my problem, not knowing, what “advanced ACLs” actually means.

I want to provide a Learning Management System like in Wordpress with a Plugin.
I have different companies with several hundreds on employees.
So I want to create a few Accounts for Useradministration, and they can create a account for their employes.
Does a Business-Account helps me here?
Or do I have to leave usermanagement to the app then?
What are the “advanced ACLs” from the Business-Account actually?

Thanks a lot and cheers
Bluxomat

[jdaviescoates]

@bluxomat it sounds to me like Business would be fine for you. You can add users and user managers and then they can add more users as they need.

I think* the "Advanced ACLs" stuff is just about automating the process a bit in that it allows you to plug an existing e.g. M$ Active Directory ACL LDAP server into your Cloudron and to suck users in from that rather than having to add them manually.

*but I'm not certain because I've never actually used it/ don't have "premium".

[nebulon]

@bluxomat currently we have lifted the feature restrictions between the pricing tiers, as we want more customers to use those features. The main difference at the moment is the priority support for the business tier.

[jdaviescoates]

@nebulon I really think https://www.cloudron.io/pricing.html needs a update to reflect the current reality.

i.e. I think I'm correct that all this:

Basic Branding

API Tokens

App Passwords

Dynamic DNS

Basic User Groups and Roles

Mandatory 2FA

Is actually all included in the free version too and that actually the only limitation/ difference of the free version is the number of apps, right?

[girish]

@jdaviescoates that's mostly right. We want to do the next pricing change only in Cloudron 7 time frame when we go multi-host. We still don't know how that will look like though.

[jdaviescoates]

@girish um, OK, but imho your pricing page should always be correct

[luckow]

@bluxomat To answer your questions (and my understanding of your needs): If you have different customers on one Cloudron instance, there is no option to have a "kind of" multi-tenant user management. If you give the role "user admin" to one user of client A, she is able to see and create all users on that Cloudron instance.

In that case it's better for all (including Cloudron the company because of more subscriptions) to install a Cloudron instance per client. If you are a "frugal fox" (never heard of this before, I had a quick translate of the german word "Sparfuchs" that means something like: If I don't have to put more money in other people's pockets, why should I?), then the only chance is to have some kind of "multi-tenant" within the user management of the apps themselves. But if your customer has more than one app on your instance, you have to repeat the creation of users in every app again and again.