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  • robiR Offline
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    robi
    wrote on last edited by robi
    #5

    I just pinged one of my friends over at the Matrix team and this is what he said:

    *I wouldn't wait until we add an admin interface of our own as that's not really in the plans for the next 18 months.
    We tend to keep our admin APIs fairly stable and warn people when we add backwards-incompatible changes though (lots of people rely on them).

    So I think the dangers of the 3rd party dashboard getting out of sync are overblown, as long as the project continues to be maintained.*

    Conscious tech

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    • robiR robi

      I just pinged one of my friends over at the Matrix team and this is what he said:

      *I wouldn't wait until we add an admin interface of our own as that's not really in the plans for the next 18 months.
      We tend to keep our admin APIs fairly stable and warn people when we add backwards-incompatible changes though (lots of people rely on them).

      So I think the dangers of the 3rd party dashboard getting out of sync are overblown, as long as the project continues to be maintained.*

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      @robi Huh fair enough. I'm all on board for this to be added then.

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        @girish @nebulon

        Any further thoughts on this with the above feedback? I have been able to run that locally myself easily with the instance of Matrix I have setup through Cloudron. Unfortunately I don't know much about all the dev stuff you all go through so I can't say how hard it would be to get that working well through Cloudron. But it took me around 5 minutes to get it running and working for all of my instances of Matrix. Basically once it is setup you just need the single instance and then you specify which Matrix instance you are logging into as an admin. Login will fail if you aren't using an account that has been made a Matrix Server Admin. But basically we would just need a single instance and that single instance could manage any and all Matrix instances even those outside of Cloudron itself.

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        • ericdrgnE ericdrgn

          @girish @nebulon

          Any further thoughts on this with the above feedback? I have been able to run that locally myself easily with the instance of Matrix I have setup through Cloudron. Unfortunately I don't know much about all the dev stuff you all go through so I can't say how hard it would be to get that working well through Cloudron. But it took me around 5 minutes to get it running and working for all of my instances of Matrix. Basically once it is setup you just need the single instance and then you specify which Matrix instance you are logging into as an admin. Login will fail if you aren't using an account that has been made a Matrix Server Admin. But basically we would just need a single instance and that single instance could manage any and all Matrix instances even those outside of Cloudron itself.

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          @ericdrgn Since this will most likely get packaged as a separate app, you can open a new post here - https://forum.cloudron.io/category/5/app-wishlist . We simply pick things from there based on interest/upvotes. Aside from that, I think it makes sense to have this packaged .

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          • girishG girish

            @ericdrgn Since this will most likely get packaged as a separate app, you can open a new post here - https://forum.cloudron.io/category/5/app-wishlist . We simply pick things from there based on interest/upvotes. Aside from that, I think it makes sense to have this packaged .

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            ericdrgn
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            #9

            @girish Done, thanks!

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            • girishG girish

              @ericdrgn Since this will most likely get packaged as a separate app, you can open a new post here - https://forum.cloudron.io/category/5/app-wishlist . We simply pick things from there based on interest/upvotes. Aside from that, I think it makes sense to have this packaged .

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              rbzvr
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              @girish Please tell me when the package will be added?
              It's just that my crooked hands couldn't install it correctly and I can't log in to the server. Writes the error "session ended".😊

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              • R rbzvr

                @girish Please tell me when the package will be added?
                It's just that my crooked hands couldn't install it correctly and I can't log in to the server. Writes the error "session ended".😊

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                ericdrgn
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                #11

                @rbzvr Did you make sure to follow the documentation to actually make an account an admin? You won't be able to login properly without doing that first. 😁

                https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/synapse/#admin

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                • ericdrgnE ericdrgn

                  @rbzvr Did you make sure to follow the documentation to actually make an account an admin? You won't be able to login properly without doing that first. 😁

                  https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/synapse/#admin

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                  @ericdrgn Thank you, you were right, I skipped this step.

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                    Hey, just a question. Will the package ever be added to Cloudron? The post is already a year old, so just asking, somehow I can't figure out how to work the API and this would make it pretty easy I think.

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                    • archosA archos

                      Hey, just a question. Will the package ever be added to Cloudron? The post is already a year old, so just asking, somehow I can't figure out how to work the API and this would make it pretty easy I think.

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                      jdaviescoates
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                      #14

                      @archos best bet is probably to upvote here:
                      https://forum.cloudron.io/post/24184

                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                      • archosA archos

                        Hey, just a question. Will the package ever be added to Cloudron? The post is already a year old, so just asking, somehow I can't figure out how to work the API and this would make it pretty easy I think.

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                        girish
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                        @archos I just tested this now. It runs trivially on surfer. All you have to do is:

                        • Install surfer

                        • Upload the tarball - https://github.com/Awesome-Technologies/synapse-admin/releases/download/0.8.5/synapse-admin-0.8.5.tar.gz

                        • Extract tarball

                        • Login with Synapse credentials. Note that the user you are trying to login with has to be Synapse admin. See https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/synapse/#admin on how to do this.

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                        • girishG girish

                          @archos I just tested this now. It runs trivially on surfer. All you have to do is:

                          • Install surfer

                          • Upload the tarball - https://github.com/Awesome-Technologies/synapse-admin/releases/download/0.8.5/synapse-admin-0.8.5.tar.gz

                          • Extract tarball

                          • Login with Synapse credentials. Note that the user you are trying to login with has to be Synapse admin. See https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/synapse/#admin on how to do this.

                            06e5765f-64b4-478f-8a13-91f07bc0382c-image.png

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                          @girish I could see this working as a basic static site app using a small node server to have a dedicated app. Is the concern just if this will continue to be maintained?

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                            @girish I could see this working as a basic static site app using a small node server to have a dedicated app. Is the concern just if this will continue to be maintained?

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                            Staff
                            wrote on last edited by
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                            @atridad I don't know if it's actually that useful. It can only manage (existing) rooms and add users from what I can tell. It's not that full fledged an admin interface as I imagined. But still, if other's consider it useful, this is trivial to package.

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                            • girishG girish

                              @archos I just tested this now. It runs trivially on surfer. All you have to do is:

                              • Install surfer

                              • Upload the tarball - https://github.com/Awesome-Technologies/synapse-admin/releases/download/0.8.5/synapse-admin-0.8.5.tar.gz

                              • Extract tarball

                              • Login with Synapse credentials. Note that the user you are trying to login with has to be Synapse admin. See https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/synapse/#admin on how to do this.

                                06e5765f-64b4-478f-8a13-91f07bc0382c-image.png

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                              archos
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #18

                              @girish Thank you for the instructions, it's really simple

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                                bscabl
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                                #19

                                Got this working perfectly via the docker instructions 👍

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                                • girishG girish

                                  @atridad I don't know if it's actually that useful. It can only manage (existing) rooms and add users from what I can tell. It's not that full fledged an admin interface as I imagined. But still, if other's consider it useful, this is trivial to package.

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                                  @girish said in Matrix/Synapse Admin Interface:

                                  @atridad I don't know if it's actually that useful. It can only manage (existing) rooms and add users from what I can tell. It's not that full fledged an admin interface as I imagined. But still, if other's consider it useful, this is trivial to package.

                                  I am running into some issues after having used this tool to set up registration tokens where even as the admin and logged in as the admin, it will not let me delete user data. Is there an easier workaround for this? Note: Not my area of expertise but I am slowly learning and ChatGPT def helps. I am even having trouble using the Surfer CLI to access this because it won't accept my username and password despite being the superadmin.

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                                  • girishG girish

                                    @archos I just tested this now. It runs trivially on surfer. All you have to do is:

                                    • Install surfer

                                    • Upload the tarball - https://github.com/Awesome-Technologies/synapse-admin/releases/download/0.8.5/synapse-admin-0.8.5.tar.gz

                                    • Extract tarball

                                    • Login with Synapse credentials. Note that the user you are trying to login with has to be Synapse admin. See https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/synapse/#admin on how to do this.

                                      06e5765f-64b4-478f-8a13-91f07bc0382c-image.png

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                                    jdaviescoates
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                                    @girish said in Matrix/Synapse Admin Interface:

                                    @archos I just tested this now. It runs trivially on surfer. All you have to do is:

                                    • Install surfer

                                    • Upload the tarball - https://github.com/Awesome-Technologies/synapse-admin/releases/download/0.8.5/synapse-admin-0.8.5.tar.gz

                                    • Extract tarball

                                    • Login with Synapse credentials. Note that the user you are trying to login with has to be Synapse admin. See https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/synapse/#admin on how to do this.

                                      06e5765f-64b4-478f-8a13-91f07bc0382c-image.png

                                    This should be in the docs if not already

                                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                      girish
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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #22

                                      Good idea, added it to docs.

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                                        lukas
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                                        Just uploaded and extracted latest version but it's just loading, don't see any login screen

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