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Apps Stuck Updating - Cleaning up old install - even after stopping/restarting task

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  • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

    @girish will do: best place to drop you that note? in reply to the support email thread? on this thread? in chat on here? on matrix? 😛

    (my guess: WordPress Developer app)

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    @girish fyi (added this bit with an edit so not sure you saw it?)

    @jdaviescoates said in Apps Stuck Updating - Cleaning up old install - even after stopping/restarting task:

    (my guess: WordPress Developer app)

    🙂

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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    • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

      @girish will do: best place to drop you that note? in reply to the support email thread? on this thread? in chat on here? on matrix? 😛

      (my guess: WordPress Developer app)

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      #95

      @jdaviescoates I'm running WP dev too. Here's the full list of apps I'm using:

      umami
      ghost
      wordpress dev
      surfer
      chatwoot
      noco
      element
      vaultwarden
      wekan
      invoiceninja
      etherpad
      roundcube
      snappymail
      matrix
      listmonk
      paperless
      freescout
      alltube
      kutt
      snappymail
      
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        #96

        I also have a WordPress dev app on the cloudron that gets stuck and don't have it on the other instances. The only other app I have on it and not on the other ones is mattermost

        PS: the instance I restarted earlier today and that was working now hangs again on updates. Restarted again and now working fine...for some time...

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        • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

          @girish said in Apps Stuck Updating - Cleaning up old install - even after stopping/restarting task:

          @jdaviescoates BTW, what "driver" did you select in Media in netcup ? I see that I have chosen VIRTIO even though SCSI is recommended.

          Yeah mine is VIRTIO too, I didn't manually choose that though, that's just how it was already and I chose not to touch anything for fear or messing things up (but yeah, I also noticed it says SCSI is recommended)

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          @jdaviescoates said in Apps Stuck Updating - Cleaning up old install - even after stopping/restarting task:

          Yeah mine is VIRTIO too

          I use SCSI on all my Netcup hosts. Not hitting the problem like I said before.

          VPS 200 G8 v7.3.2 (clean) Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS
          RS 4000 G9 SE v7.3.2 (clean) Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS

          Stuff I have installed: Wordpress (managed), Matrix, Element, Bookstack, Freescout, LAMP (new and old ones), Gitea, Lychee, Roundcoube, Nextcloud, Statping, Collabora, Paperless, Surfer, Kimai, Jirafeau, Vaultwarden

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            So I guess it could well have to do with the WP unmanaged package as it seems like a common factor so far across all instances (of everyone in the thread) experiencing the issue and the singularity on my buggy instance instance compared to the others

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              @girish the server is running fine after upgrading to 22.04. I manually updated one app yesterday and it updated just fine. A bunch of apps auto updated last night without any issues and I manually updated Wekan minutes ago. I hope I’m not jumping the gun here 😆 fingers crossed!

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              • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

                @girish the server is running fine after upgrading to 22.04. I manually updated one app yesterday and it updated just fine. A bunch of apps auto updated last night without any issues and I manually updated Wekan minutes ago. I hope I’m not jumping the gun here 😆 fingers crossed!

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                @girish hello Girish, I'm trying to update a LAMP instance and problem still there, any ideas on how to proceed? Thank's

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                • P p44

                  @girish hello Girish, I'm trying to update a LAMP instance and problem still there, any ideas on how to proceed? Thank's

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                  @p44 can you write to support@ . I am afraid to give a suggestion without knowing the current state of the server.

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                  • girishG girish

                    @p44 can you write to support@ . I am afraid to give a suggestion without knowing the current state of the server.

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                    @girish Ok I'll do ASAP. thank's a lot

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                      @girish Ok I'll do ASAP. thank's a lot

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                      #103

                      @p44 Have you tried to reboot your server and then do the update?

                      @p44 out of interest, do you have a WP unmanaged app installed on your instance?

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                      • avatar1024A avatar1024

                        @p44 Have you tried to reboot your server and then do the update?

                        @p44 out of interest, do you have a WP unmanaged app installed on your instance?

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                        @avatar1024 this is not unmanaged WP related. We have been investigating this a lot last few days but it appears to happen very often in netcup servers at least.

                        The main issue is that runc is getting stuck (you can also do ps auxf on the server):

                        root       84188  0.0  0.0 712448  9880 ?        Sl   11:09   0:01 /usr/bin/containerd-shim-runc-v2 -namespace moby -id afb25df337753f9944749bdba5bcb577ae58630d4529da3293ea3730c3164be4 -address /run/containerd/c
                        root       84200  0.0  0.0 1230148 10704 ?       Sl   11:09   0:00  \_ runc --root /var/run/docker/runtime-runc/moby --log /run/containerd/io.containerd.runtime.v2.task/moby/afb25df337753f9944749bdba5bcb577ae586
                        root       84210  0.0  0.0 1083864 10968 ?       Ssl  11:09   0:00      \_ runc init
                        

                        Those runc init above is just hanging there waiting for something (you can strace and see it's waiting on some futex). It's unclear what the issue is so far.

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                          @avatar1024 this is not unmanaged WP related. We have been investigating this a lot last few days but it appears to happen very often in netcup servers at least.

                          The main issue is that runc is getting stuck (you can also do ps auxf on the server):

                          root       84188  0.0  0.0 712448  9880 ?        Sl   11:09   0:01 /usr/bin/containerd-shim-runc-v2 -namespace moby -id afb25df337753f9944749bdba5bcb577ae58630d4529da3293ea3730c3164be4 -address /run/containerd/c
                          root       84200  0.0  0.0 1230148 10704 ?       Sl   11:09   0:00  \_ runc --root /var/run/docker/runtime-runc/moby --log /run/containerd/io.containerd.runtime.v2.task/moby/afb25df337753f9944749bdba5bcb577ae586
                          root       84210  0.0  0.0 1083864 10968 ?       Ssl  11:09   0:00      \_ runc init
                          

                          Those runc init above is just hanging there waiting for something (you can strace and see it's waiting on some futex). It's unclear what the issue is so far.

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                          @girish I wonder if sysbox would have the same issue.

                          Conscious tech

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                          • avatar1024A avatar1024

                            @p44 Have you tried to reboot your server and then do the update?

                            @p44 out of interest, do you have a WP unmanaged app installed on your instance?

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                            p44
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                            @avatar1024 Yes I did reboot but nothing. No have any WP unmanaged on instance. Only two LAMP applications.

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                            • girishG girish

                              @avatar1024 this is not unmanaged WP related. We have been investigating this a lot last few days but it appears to happen very often in netcup servers at least.

                              The main issue is that runc is getting stuck (you can also do ps auxf on the server):

                              root       84188  0.0  0.0 712448  9880 ?        Sl   11:09   0:01 /usr/bin/containerd-shim-runc-v2 -namespace moby -id afb25df337753f9944749bdba5bcb577ae58630d4529da3293ea3730c3164be4 -address /run/containerd/c
                              root       84200  0.0  0.0 1230148 10704 ?       Sl   11:09   0:00  \_ runc --root /var/run/docker/runtime-runc/moby --log /run/containerd/io.containerd.runtime.v2.task/moby/afb25df337753f9944749bdba5bcb577ae586
                              root       84210  0.0  0.0 1083864 10968 ?       Ssl  11:09   0:00      \_ runc init
                              

                              Those runc init above is just hanging there waiting for something (you can strace and see it's waiting on some futex). It's unclear what the issue is so far.

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                              @girish said in Apps Stuck Updating - Cleaning up old install - even after stopping/restarting task:

                              happen very often in netcup servers

                              I know you (or @nebulon) have an account at Netcups Forum. Maybe ask them for help?

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                                @girish said in Apps Stuck Updating - Cleaning up old install - even after stopping/restarting task:

                                happen very often in netcup servers

                                I know you (or @nebulon) have an account at Netcups Forum. Maybe ask them for help?

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                                @subven I think is not Netcup related issue.

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                                  So we had an instance which seems to not hit this issue anymore by making sure the kvm version is updated. On netcup this apparently means to shutdown and boot the instance through their control panel. A simple reboot/restart will not solve it. Maybe anyone here facing this and being on netcup could attempt this so we get more info.

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                                  • nebulonN nebulon

                                    So we had an instance which seems to not hit this issue anymore by making sure the kvm version is updated. On netcup this apparently means to shutdown and boot the instance through their control panel. A simple reboot/restart will not solve it. Maybe anyone here facing this and being on netcup could attempt this so we get more info.

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                                    @nebulon said in Apps Stuck Updating - Cleaning up old install - even after stopping/restarting task:

                                    Maybe anyone here facing this and being on netcup could attempt this so we get more info.

                                    I just did that (a power cycle via their scp server control panel), let's see if it resolves the issue for me...

                                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                      The same problem occurs on my Hetzner and Contabo servers.

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                                      • avatar1024A avatar1024

                                        I also have a WordPress dev app on the cloudron that gets stuck and don't have it on the other instances. The only other app I have on it and not on the other ones is mattermost

                                        PS: the instance I restarted earlier today and that was working now hangs again on updates. Restarted again and now working fine...for some time...

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                                        #112

                                        Weird, got three Netcup instances and only ever hit the issue one. Plus other people seem to be hitting it with other providers.

                                        @avatar1024 said in Apps Stuck Updating - Cleaning up old install - even after stopping/restarting task:

                                        PS: the instance I restarted earlier today and that was working now hangs again on updates. Restarted again and now working fine...for some time...

                                        Good news is that ever since the last reboot my instance stopped hanging (it's been 4 days). The only thing I did compared to the other time I rebooted is that I updated all apps manually to their latest version and so had no more update to do (the last app was WP unmanaged). Ever since updates have been working fine.

                                        @nebulon said in Apps Stuck Updating - Cleaning up old install - even after stopping/restarting task:

                                        Maybe anyone here facing this and being on netcup could attempt this so we get more info.

                                        I had actually already done this from Netcup SCP the first time I hit the issue but it hadn't solved for me.

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                                          Ok, so one thing which I have noticed is common is that the kernel is 5.4.0-132-generic (output of uname -nar and Ubuntu 20.04.5 (lsb_release -a). Can others please confirm what kernel and ubuntu they are on?

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