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Prosody + Converse.js

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  • murgeroM murgero

    @syn Have you seen Snikket? It's a prosody clone I believe but it is way easier to setup

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    @murgero said in Prosody + Converse.js:

    Snikket

    +1

    It's also written by the same person who is main Prosody dev too.

    Upvote here: https://forum.cloudron.io/post/23291

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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    • murgeroM murgero

      @syn Have you seen Snikket? It's a prosody clone I believe but it is way easier to setup

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      @murgero I have. From what i see - it does not have the actual web client, just the management interface.

      As for the XMPP server itself - it is in fact prosody, so nothing special there.

      Why?

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        @murgero I have. From what i see - it does not have the actual web client, just the management interface.

        As for the XMPP server itself - it is in fact prosody, so nothing special there.

        Why?

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        @syn Just wondering if it would be easier to bundle snikket since it has the scripts to setup automatically already?

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        • murgeroM murgero

          @syn Just wondering if it would be easier to bundle snikket since it has the scripts to setup automatically already?

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          @murgero the blockers for my dream-world Jabber app on Cloudron are not related to configuring prosody. It's done already and I for one am using the current jabber-app daily.

          The remaining issues are related to lack of interfaces to editing DNS (SRV, TXT) records from inside cloudron apps. That is going to affect any XMPP implementation.

          I appreciate your feedback, but please look into the actual limitations instead of jumping to between shiny end-user brandings.

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            @murgero the blockers for my dream-world Jabber app on Cloudron are not related to configuring prosody. It's done already and I for one am using the current jabber-app daily.

            The remaining issues are related to lack of interfaces to editing DNS (SRV, TXT) records from inside cloudron apps. That is going to affect any XMPP implementation.

            I appreciate your feedback, but please look into the actual limitations instead of jumping to between shiny end-user brandings.

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            @syn said in Prosody + Converse.js:

            It's done already and I for one am using the current jabber-app daily.

            What Jabber app?

            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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            • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

              @syn said in Prosody + Converse.js:

              It's done already and I for one am using the current jabber-app daily.

              What Jabber app?

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              @jdaviescoates as I posted on 18 Jul 2018, 20:23:

              I have packaged this as https://git.cloudron.io/synchrone/jabber-app

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                @murgero the blockers for my dream-world Jabber app on Cloudron are not related to configuring prosody. It's done already and I for one am using the current jabber-app daily.

                The remaining issues are related to lack of interfaces to editing DNS (SRV, TXT) records from inside cloudron apps. That is going to affect any XMPP implementation.

                I appreciate your feedback, but please look into the actual limitations instead of jumping to between shiny end-user brandings.

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                @syn Oh! My bad. I've been out of the community for a few months and just coming back now.

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                • S syn

                  @jdaviescoates as I posted on 18 Jul 2018, 20:23:

                  I have packaged this as https://git.cloudron.io/synchrone/jabber-app

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                  @syn I'd like to build and install, what's the proper way to do this while waiting for this beautiful app to hit the store.

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                  • murgeroM murgero

                    @syn I'd like to build and install, what's the proper way to do this while waiting for this beautiful app to hit the store.

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                    @murgero https://docs.cloudron.io/packaging/tutorial/#update

                    Conscious tech

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                    • robiR robi

                      @murgero https://docs.cloudron.io/packaging/tutorial/#update

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                      @robi Hey Robi, I am an app dev with Cloudron (RE: the appdev tag) so I know how to package and install apps. My question was more the after-install setup as he mentioned some manual steps (but was not specific)

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                      • murgeroM murgero

                        @robi Hey Robi, I am an app dev with Cloudron (RE: the appdev tag) so I know how to package and install apps. My question was more the after-install setup as he mentioned some manual steps (but was not specific)

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                        @murgero Lol, sorry, thought you were getting rusty ;-]

                        Thanks that's more specific.

                        Conscious tech

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                        • robiR robi

                          @murgero Lol, sorry, thought you were getting rusty ;-]

                          Thanks that's more specific.

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                          @robi Thanks for helping anyway! Never a bad thing to give good info.

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                          • murgeroM murgero

                            @syn Oh! My bad. I've been out of the community for a few months and just coming back now.

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                            @murgero If you want to use JIDs like murgero@chat.example.com - no special instructions, it works as is.

                            If you want your JID to be murgero@example.com - currently you must choose example.com as cloudron app domain, otherwise it won't work.

                            XMPP allows you to have JIDs on a different server than where A-record is pointing to, see https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6120#section-3.2.1

                            Notice that the server must present a valid CA-trusted TLS certificate for example.com in this set up, not it's own chat.example.com.

                            Currently prosody.cfg.lua is not set up to handle other domains except the one that the app is installed as. For me it does not make sense to implement the config handling unless I have a way to provide no-manual-actions experience.

                            Feel free to contribute though.

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                              @murgero If you want to use JIDs like murgero@chat.example.com - no special instructions, it works as is.

                              If you want your JID to be murgero@example.com - currently you must choose example.com as cloudron app domain, otherwise it won't work.

                              XMPP allows you to have JIDs on a different server than where A-record is pointing to, see https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6120#section-3.2.1

                              Notice that the server must present a valid CA-trusted TLS certificate for example.com in this set up, not it's own chat.example.com.

                              Currently prosody.cfg.lua is not set up to handle other domains except the one that the app is installed as. For me it does not make sense to implement the config handling unless I have a way to provide no-manual-actions experience.

                              Feel free to contribute though.

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                              @syn Gotcha, for a lot of users, domain will matter. Hopefully cloudron will allow more cert access for first level domains. I'd love to test this out as well.

                              You use converse.js for this, have you looked into movim at all for a front end too?

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                              • murgeroM murgero

                                @syn Gotcha, for a lot of users, domain will matter. Hopefully cloudron will allow more cert access for first level domains. I'd love to test this out as well.

                                You use converse.js for this, have you looked into movim at all for a front end too?

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                                @murgero movim looks interesting, I can totally see it as another app on cloudron. XMPP allows for 3rd party web clients over BOSH/websockets. I would set up CORS on prosody for this, if not already supported.

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                                  @girish I consider this app ready for Beta submission to cloudron app store.

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                                    @girish I consider this app ready for Beta submission to cloudron app store.

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                                    @syn said in Prosody + Converse.js:

                                    @girish I consider this app ready for Beta submission to cloudron app store.

                                    sounds great, I may have missed it, but where is the code?

                                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                      @syn said in Prosody + Converse.js:

                                      @girish I consider this app ready for Beta submission to cloudron app store.

                                      sounds great, I may have missed it, but where is the code?

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                                      @jdaviescoates said in Prosody + Converse.js:

                                      @syn said in Prosody + Converse.js:

                                      @girish I consider this app ready for Beta submission to cloudron app store.

                                      sounds great, I may have missed it, but where is the code?

                                      scroll up bud, you've asked this before 😉

                                      Conscious tech

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                                      • robiR robi

                                        @jdaviescoates said in Prosody + Converse.js:

                                        @syn said in Prosody + Converse.js:

                                        @girish I consider this app ready for Beta submission to cloudron app store.

                                        sounds great, I may have missed it, but where is the code?

                                        scroll up bud, you've asked this before 😉

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                                        @robi said in Prosody + Converse.js:

                                        @jdaviescoates said in Prosody + Converse.js:

                                        @syn said in Prosody + Converse.js:

                                        @girish I consider this app ready for Beta submission to cloudron app store.

                                        sounds great, I may have missed it, but where is the code?

                                        scroll up bud, you've asked this before 😉

                                        😆

                                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                        • synchroneS synchrone

                                          Kaiwa is no longer maintained, but there is now inverse.chat.

                                          I have packaged this as https://git.cloudron.io/synchrone/jabber-app, but also got stuck on TLS certificates.

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                                          Here it is:

                                          @synchrone said in Prosody + Converse.js:

                                          I have packaged this as https://git.cloudron.io/synchrone/jabber-app

                                          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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